Ocean Beach Club Opening

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For me the daytime scene isn't about paying to get into a swimming baths. Its the beach, djs, dancing, meeting people and getting ready for the evening. In Ibiza you don't need to pay to achieve this.
 
The atmosphere there looks forced and still looks poor. Girls or guys getting drunk off and wasting champagne by spraying it is pretentious. Compare this video to old bora bora videos - on youtube - lol. Give me spiderman over Mathew Pritchard any day. Spiderman is totally Ibiza. Pritchard just isn't :/
 
ENGLANDVILLA said:
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That's one of the most disgusting displays of human behaviour I've seen in a very long time. I'm usually a very tolerant person but it makes me feel physically sick. There's nothing avant garde, wild or even debauched about any of it either .. it's just a bunch of himbos and bimbos with no sense of values who've been persuaded that it's fun to throw champagne around.

Glad I don't spend my days 'turning' those champagne bottles or learning how to perfect the art of post-fermentation débouchage only to see dimwits spraying it everywhere as a party game. Stupid tw@ts. And I think the motor racing lot are equally stupid and pathetic for spraying it around off the podium. What a load of w@nkers.
 
I avoid Marbella like the plague .. and it certainly ain't how I remember St Tropez - I'm pretty sure you won't see antics like that at Plage de la Bouillabaisse.
 
Would I be inclined to go to this venue...no.

However, as has been said many times before Ibiza is a mix a different personalities etc. etc.

I am not sure the the prolonged bashing of this venue and it clientele (by some folks who have not even been) is useful. If people want to go and pose, make asses of themselves, flash their boobies & knobs etc so be it, let them get on with it. At the end of the day, this venue will cater for a certain punter and if you don't want to be associated with it, don't go. simple. At least they will be congregated in one place.

In addition, here we have money (wherever it may have come from) being invested in San Antonia during not the best of economic times providing jobs for the construction industry as well as more permanent (or at least seasonal) jobs and the knock for suppliers etc. and on this basis I hope that the project turns out to be successful.
 
mmmm ... so any development is good development ? I think Dubai has proved that definitely isn't the case :!::!::!:

There a big difference between a venue and particular types of party ... I've personally thrown stones at Champagne-spray parties because I think they are a shameful demonstration of waste which is incredibly distateful at any time but never more so than at a time when Spain itself is in such a dire economic state. Arguably the big clubs are too if you follow that line of argument - but there is a balance between providing employment alongside the opportunity for people who can afford to to let their hair down. I think people deliberately spraying 30Euro @ cost alcohol all over each other falls well the wrong side of it.

Contrasts starkly with the hippies scraping enough money to buy a bottle of water together in 1 cent pieces near Sant Carles de Peralta a couple of weeks ago.

As far as the venue and crowd are concerned ... I reckon it probably isn't nearly as bad as people think at the moment. But I'm reserving judgement until I see it for myself...

What's with all the M & Ms these days anyway ... first it was Mini Miami. Now it's Mini Marbella. What next? Mini Manchester ? (err ...)
 
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There have always been show offs, beautiful people, VIPs in ibiza. But they were totally different to the up themselves, think they are better than others, paid to be VIPs.
 
kimajy said:
mmmm ... so any development is good development ? I think Dubai has proved that definitely isn't the case :!::!::!:
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Been recently?

Hey, I absolutely agree with you on the Champagne nonsense - I wasn't at all condoning that - I personally think it is ludicrous but it is their choice.

All I am saying is this venue appears to be catering to a certain clientele (many who may come to Ibiza specifically for such an experience). Maybe this is not the type of tourist they want to attract but you cant be too choosy if they come and spend money. It is providing investment and employment and surely that is positive. From the photos, the development seems an improvement on what was there before, visually improving the urban landscape - although that is somewhat subjective.

As I said I certainly would not wish to go to an event there however, I am not going to knock people who choose to do so, spend money and assist the economy just because I do not concur with their what their idea of enjoying themselves is. I am quite sure many dont approve of me going on a drug induced bender but I would hope they respect my choice to do it and live and let live.
 
kimajy said:
That's one of the most disgusting displays of human behaviour I've seen in a very long time. I'm usually a very tolerant person but it makes me feel physically sick. There's nothing avant garde, wild or even debauched about any of it either .. it's just a bunch of himbos and bimbos with no sense of values who've been persuaded that it's fun to throw champagne around.

Glad I don't spend my days 'turning' those champagne bottles or learning how to perfect the art of post-fermentation débouchage only to see dimwits spraying it everywhere as a party game. Stupid tw@ts. And I think the motor racing lot are equally stupid and pathetic for spraying it around off the podium. What a load of w@nkers.
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As much as I respect a lot of your comments on this Forum, I think that the above is rather snobby and pretentious in its own way.

People are allowed to enjoy their time in Ibiza in anyway they want. As much as I wouldn't spray around champagne myself, I can see the fun in it (slightly).
The wonderful thing about Ibiza is that it attracts almost every type of party-goer possible, allowing each one to enjoy it in their own way.

If it makes you that upset seeing things like this, surely yo should be pleased that they have devised an area where it can all happen?
You would also be surprised to know that a lot of the Wine and Champagne companies give their products to venues such as Ocean club, completely free - just for these events.
Moet Chandon and Veuve Cliquoet are also affiliated companies to Pepsi.Co an Coca-Cola. Who in turn own Walkers... who has links with.. Yes, you named it - the Lineker family.

A few years ago I thought to myself, maybe they think that me and my friends are boring and snobby for going to the club to just dance and enjoy the music, rather than get extremely merry and 'chat up birds', because believe it or not, a lot of women do go there for that reason too.
But then I realized, why do I care what other people think of my views and actions. I go to Ibiza year in year out to enjoy myself, with friends and other like minded people.
Which is the main reason we all do.. right? :?
 
I think there has to be a point where people don't mistake Ibiza free will/living etc for down right acts of stupidity. These parties are crap, they look crap and are full of crap people.
I personally still love Ibiza but it isn't even the same place I went to in 2008, the crowd have changed dramatically in that time alone so I dread to think how it must be for people who have lived through the whole scene. The whole free living concept seems to be over taken by the usual garbage that used to reside in Napa or Magaluf now it seems fashionable to go to Ibiza. That is why I think this year we have such a bee in our bonnets about the "vest" and this new club. The place to let your hair down in a world where no one cares is being lost rapidly, and these people associated with its loss will take abuse fom the ones who don't want it to change.
All my opinion of course.
 
freakstar said:
Would I be inclined to go to this venue...no.

However, as has been said many times before Ibiza is a mix a different personalities etc. etc.

I am not sure the the prolonged bashing of this venue and it clientele (by some folks who have not even been) is useful. If people want to go and pose, make asses of themselves, flash their boobies & knobs etc so be it, let them get on with it. At the end of the day, this venue will cater for a certain punter and if you don't want to be associated with it, don't go. simple. At least they will be congregated in one place.

In addition, here we have money (wherever it may have come from) being invested in San Antonia during not the best of economic times providing jobs for the construction industry as well as more permanent (or at least seasonal) jobs and the knock for suppliers etc. and on this basis I hope that the project turns out to be successful.
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amen
 
OllieNotts said:
I personally still love Ibiza but it isn't even the same place I went to in 2008, the crowd have changed dramatically in that time alone so I dread to think how it must be for people who have lived through the whole scene.
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Maybe the crowd is in fact the same as 2008 but you only noticed a "change" as you have become more familiar with the place. Maybe you have had particularly good times at certain visits that haven't been replicated so have picked up on certain characteristics to form this view. Maybe you are just going to the wrong places. At the end of the day, life changes, people change, you change - that is the way things go.

There have always been people in Ibiza that I would not desire to socialise with, likewise there have always been others that I have had the best times of my life with - that has not changed over my 16 years visiting.
 
freakstar said:
Maybe the crowd is in fact the same as 2008 but you only noticed a "change" as you have become more familiar with the place. Maybe you have had particularly good times at certain visits that haven't been replicated so have picked up on certain characteristics to form this view. Maybe you are just going to the wrong places. At the end of the day, life changes, people change, you change - that is the way things go.

There have always been people in Ibiza that I would not desire to socialise with, likewise there have always been others that I have had the best times of my life with - that has not changed over my 16 years visiting.
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^^ I appreciate what you say above, but I still feel the 'line of acceptability' is crossed by people spraying champagne over each other. Much as I have come to tolerate almost all others' choices in life in the end I was brought up in a country of extreme poverty and whether the product is given away for free by the manufacturer or not it still has a retail equivalent value and I cannot change the fact that I am repulsed to the pit of my stomach by it.

I'm not going to go into an inflamatory rant about values but will just say I challenge anyone who's stepped foot in a 3rd world country and seen for real the way most of the world live to look at what's going on at a Champagne spray party and say "it's perfectly OK and it's good for the island".
 
You could say the same about children having water fights in the UK.

Does it matter if the champagne is being drank or sprayed over people? Someone has paid for it somewhere along the line and ts putting money back into a business and the economy somewhere down the line.
 
^^ try as I might to see it, and I have tried hard, I can't make that leap of Capitalist perspective. Just sits in the category of food mountains versus famine for me. Still gets the thumbs down I'm afraid !
 
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