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kimajy said:
Also aware of the fact many younguns do it for the first time over there and whilst there are some who research things thoroughly before taking risks (in all walks of life), others jump in at the deep end and see how things play out.
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That's partly my point, due to the media hysteria about illegal drugs kids often have to depend on hearsay and urban myth to determine what the risks are, rather than being able to easily get balanced, honest advice.
kimajy said:
Saying water killed her is a bit like saying jumping off the balcony killed the proverbial tripping guy on Acid and the drugs had nothing to do with that !
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That's not a fair comparison though. It comes back to my point above, through misinformation the myth at the time was that you should drink loads of water if you take an E, so that's what people did, blindly unaware of the risks of doing so. As far as I'm aware, jumping from balconies had never been advised, either on or off acid :)
 
TimmiT said:
That's partly my point, due to the media hysteria about illegal drugs kids often have to depend on hearsay and urban myth to determine what the risks are, rather than being able to easily get balanced, honest advice.
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There's media hysteria, misinformation and urban myth about all sorts of things. If they want to ask Frank they can easily do that (data allowances permitting), but how many of them are going to stop to check when they've just been dished a dose with their jug of cocktails in the West End and they're happily drinking in the local sights ? Fact is, there are drug deaths, drink deaths, stupid prank deaths etc. every year and I come back to my earlier point - I'm surprised there aren't more given the general degree of excesses ! I don't think every drug-related demise can be brushed under the carpet as likely the fault of media misinformation, any more than I think every stupid drunken prank that goes wrong can be brushed aside as misfortune rather than an aggravated accident. Put any dangerous toy in the hands of an inexperienced person without an instruction leaflet and there are going to be a few tears.
 
Dirk Bigler said:
Mmmmmm, think you may find some people average more than that on a session.
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Well then thats there fault if they OD.

I know people who have done 3g of sniff a night and smoked a bud after. Dont be suprised one day if u end up in hospital or dead.

Too much worrying over drugs, You can ravaged on the booze every day or in my case 7 days a week on holiday and your not even in danger of death. Stick to the booze and you'll be alright.
 
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BEEFA1 said:
Too much worrying over drugs, You can ravaged on the booze every day or in my case 7 days a week on holiday and your not even in danger of death. Stick to the booze and you'll be alright.
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Astounded by your ignorance, and your very wrong misconceptions.

There are literally hundreds of kids who have died after an alcohol binge (and plenty of adults too, for that matter). Far, far more than ever have from ecstasy. Just because it's a convenient taxable drug, don't assume it is any safer if not handled with care. Jeez!
 
BEEFA1 said:
Too much worrying over drugs, You can ravaged on the booze every day or in my case 7 days a week on holiday and your not even in danger of death. Stick to the booze and you'll be alright.
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Not true. It is far easier to lethally overdose on alcohol than it is on most recreationals:
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(from here)
 
white_isle_calling said:
Astounded by your ignorance, and your very wrong misconceptions.

There are literally hundreds of kids who have died after an alcohol binge (and plenty of adults too, for that matter). Far, far more than ever have from ecstasy. Just because it's a convenient taxable drug, don't assume it is any safer if not handled with care. Jeez!
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But why arnt they in the news as much as drugs? There is a reason why alcohol is legal and served in bars. Personally i have never know anyone to die off getting pissed. Stop defending these people, its their choice if they end up in a grave because they took too much then thats there fault nobody elses
 
BEEFA1 said:
But why arnt they in the news as much as drugs? There is a reason why alcohol is legal and served in bars. Personally i have never know anyone to die off getting pissed. Stop defending these people, its their choice if they end up in a ditch because they took too much then thats there fault know body elses
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Basically what you're saying is that you believe what our media & government spoonfeeds you. Have you done any research other than read the Sun?! Because you're beginning to make a fool of yourself.

"oh, it hasn't happened to ME, and therefore MY experiences is all the evidence I need"

Yeah, right...
 
BEEFA1 said:
There is a reason why alcohol is legal and served in bars.
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Yes, because it's legal (and highly lucrative to our economy the amount it rakes in tax). But do you honestly believe that alone makes it safe? Honestly?!

You need to read up on a period of history known as "Prohibition". I'd also recommend the research of David Nutt. When you get a few minutes, these other documentaries will help:

- The House I Live In (it's on Netflix)
 
raging alcoholics die not off 7 pints like you can off 7 pills. Yeah b'coz you really see people OD'ing in pubs every weekend!

You sir, are the fool
 
And I promise you 100% this: you are doing more damage to your body by drinking excessively 6-7 nights on holiday compared to anyone who pops a pill each of those 6-7 nights. Promise.
 
BEEFA1 said:
raging alcoholics die not off 7 pints like you can off 7 pills. Yeah b'coz you really see people OD'ing in pubs every weekend!l
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There are plenty of instances of people dying after an all night binge. Furthermore I bet I'd feel better the day after 7 pills then I would the day after 7 pints! But that's by-the-by.

Point is: get off your high-horse just because your drug of choice happens to be legal. Evidence proves that it is far more lethal.

This is scientific fact. Not stupid government policy!!!
 
white_isle_calling said:
Yes, because it's legal (and highly lucrative to our economy the amount it rakes in tax). But do you honestly believe that alone makes it safe? Honestly?!

You need to read up on a period of history known as "Prohibition". I'd also recommend the research of David Nutt. When you get a few minutes, these other documentaries will help:

- The House I Live In (it's on Netflix)
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I dont need to
white_isle_calling said:
And I promise you 100% this: you are doing more damage to your body by drinking excessively 6-7 nights on holiday compared to anyone who pops a pill each of those 6-7 nights. Promise.
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Then why am i still here and shes brown bred?

Your more safer drinking a pint of beer than taking pill. Least you know whats in it
 
MiniMarc said:
You have to also remember that what people buy as mdma and what it actually is are 2 different things alot of the time
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When I'd to go to the hospital earlier this year there, my toxicology report showed opiates, methadone, benzos and amphetamines in my system. I'd taken mdma 2 days earlier.
 
Dont need to because its brewed by the BREWERIES!

You still havent replied to my question. Maybe you need get educated. Ever been on a brewary tour?
 
BEEFA1 said:
Dont need to because its brewed by the BREWERIES!

You still havent replied to my question. Maybe you need get educated. Ever been on a brewary tour?
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What does that even mean? It's a complete red herring. Findus Crisy Pancake Duck was produced by meat processors. Didn't stop them finding horse, did it.

It's totally irrelevant.
 
So your saying they are both as bad as each other??

Shes dead. Im not. I stuck to alcohol. She done drugs. Im alive. Shes dead. Point proven
 
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