Carl-UK
Active Member
When Tiesto says Vegas clubs are ahead of Ibiza (they are) but what he really means is that he can't earn enough off the bottle service for him to be paid 20 million USD a year for a residency i.e. DC10. Therefore Ushuaia is the only place that makes financial sense for him to play at. At least, with an Ushuaia residency he will end up at Mambos at some point and realise what the grassroots look like again. It might give him a reality check.
There is also a small renaissance of Hard(er) Trance music coming through (e.g. Ben Gold) that Tiesto could jump onto the back of which, would work at Ushuaia but would not work in the other clubs.
As for Camelphat, my opinion is the same in 2023 as it was in 2022, if you look at the crowds that turn up to the big Camelphat gigs in Manchester and Liverpool (you can see the big Manchester Mayfield gig on Youtube) the crowd are really just there for the photo opportunity, there is no energy, no real investment from the crowd in the type of music Camelphat are playing.
Camelphat's music is too slow and dull for the 2nd room at Hi, they probably consider themselves too big for the backroom anyway but the truth of it is that Cassius were a duo that offered much more than Camelphat, had more success than Camelphat, were better producers of sub 160bpm music than Camelphat and were, probably, more loved than Camelphat and yet, they were never main-room acts.
Camelphat right now feel more like Disclosure but without the hit album. A low energy Dusky.
Like Disclosure, I have to question Mike Di Scala's enthusiasm and whether his heart is actually in it long-term or, whether he just wants to ride it out, earn enough to retire on and then go back to what he loves doing. He looks like he is mentally checked out already.
I think that's the problem with the Pacha residency, if Pacha take the risk on them, invest the time into them, will it come to nothing anyway when Di Scala does the inevitable and walks away.
.There is no need to be so defensive. I listed some of their successes and I’m well aware of their work, especially di Scala. However, their more recent success suggests they are very much manufactured. They obviously have history and talent as producers and djs, and a mid sized commercial hit, as I said. The fact it took them so long to break through in itself is interesting. It is blatantly obvious to everyone that has worked on the industry that they have been bought, owned and marketed according to the brand image that their owners want to exhibit. And what a brilliant job they have done collectively. Good for them. The most interesting thing is that they didn’t pull huge crowds at Ushuaia yet they have still been recruited by Pacha. Let’s see if that pulls in the U.K. and specifically scouse crowds back to Pacha.
