ibiza gossip 2023
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. Im in the wrong job here, spotlight hit me up for next summer - thanks!
4tothefloor
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This is a really strange post. To use your language, I am ‘baffled’ that you cannot understand the concerns of people about ‘overcrowding’. The reason is that in many cases it is dangerous. And by being dangerous, that increases the risk of injury and death. Many of us would prefer this to be acted upon now rather than be wise after the event. To think of this as ‘hilarious’ is top level stupidity.hi everyone, dropping in to the old neighbourhood after another long season. hope everyone is ok?
regarding OVERCROWDING
honestly, I'm actually baffled and find it hilarious that after a lifetime of going to clubs in ibiza, clubs in general anywhere, understanding even the slightest thing about how society works, that people are still talking about busy clubs in ibiza.
Generally I tend to find most of these people aren't even attending the events or haven't experienced what they're talking about recently, they just see things online or on socials and cluelessly chip in with their negativity. These are the people who are never happy, the club will always be too busy and piss them off, until the point at which it's then empty and there is no atmosphere. There is no middle point or positive scenario/outcome possible for people like this. There are a few commenting in this thread like this. These people typically also moan about cameras on the dance floor and the young generation and the fact they like the music they like, not what was popular 20 years ago.
Firstly, how busy a club is or isn't is totally subjective to each individual. I've spent my life dancing on rammed dance floors cos generally the best parties are busy. Cream Courtyard, Cocoon Amnesia, Carl Cox Space. You're at the best party in the world, at one of the best clubs in the world and 8000 people are having the time of their life each week and keep coming back for more, but yet there is always someone unhappy. I spent several Amnesia Closings being squashed from all sides for hours and honestly, I really didn't give a f*** cos that was how it goes down for a party like that. It's not Sunday service at the village church. It's a big, fat, dirty, sweaty, chaotic rave.
How anyone can go to El Row, one of the most famous and popular parties in the world, fully knowing it is going to be a riot and full on and intense (sounds good to me!), yet feel upset cos it was a busy at the bar and toilets, it's mind boggling. These are the same people pissed off when they get charged 20€ for a drink in the club, over and over again, despite knowing exactly what the price is and it being their choice to buy or not.
As a promoter in Ibiza for over 20 years, including some pretty busy parties along the way, if these events were truly way way overcrowded and so horrible an experience, then the event wouldn't work, people wouldn't keep buying tickets and come back for more and tell their friends about how good it was.
Honestly, every time someone complains about overcrowding at a club, there Is nearly always some other reason why they're pissed off. The taxi driver was a Spanish prick, there was a queue for the taxi, the ticket price cost the price you should expect for ibiza but it was still too much and annoyed you, you had to wait outside the club, they searched you going in and you got caught, you had an argument with your partner or friends, you were tired or worst of all, you went to an event where you don't like the music and everyone is younger than you and likes this shit music you hate !!! If you've got any of this on the brain in any way, then of course it being busy will piss you off.
Finally, again, people seem to ignore any efforts at all to improve customer comfort. Nearly all clubs in Ibiza, including, ushuaia, hi, dc10, pacha and amnesia regularly have sold out events, meaning that a set amount of tickets has been sold and that's that. Previously, even for the biggest events, you could always buy a ticket on the door if you were willing to pay the price and wait.
Sorry for the long post, but I've spent over 20 years promoting the island and the reasons why it's so special, in fact many of those years, were with Spotlight and nobody promotes Ibiza more than Ibiza Spotlight does and has fought harder to make sure the island has the most amazing parties in the world, whether you like it personally or not. The island is a meritocracy and always has been, If your party and DJs are any good, people will buy a ticket and come. If that means 7000 people a week go to El Row and have the most fun ever, yet you happen to be pissed of cos it's too busy, then you're the problem, nothing else.
2 years ago, the clubs couldn't even open, it's f***ing amazing that our Little Rock in the Med is back kicking ass the way it is. For the record, this website and business exists originally to encourage and promote new visitors to the island, to hopefully enjoy the same experiences we have and share in why we love it here.
If anyone wants a list of mediocre events with sparse people so you can get to the bar and toilets ok and the music will be shit as well...I'm happy to provide, but the chances are they won't be back next year.
There are multiple causes - too many people in the venue, too many people in one room because ingress / egress hasn’t been managed, poor flow in venues causing log jams, pushing and inaccessibility. All of these things are easily resolved. Busy is good. Overcrowding is dangerous.
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The Sun God
Active Member
Gotta say that Grego's post is one of the most arrogant things I've ever read on here. V sad as I always thought he was one of the good guys. Basically saying that if you get crushed to death at a party it's your own fault for being there. I mean, wow.. 
Matzze
Member
All cabs in front of me were checked. All passengers had to get out and show their ID. Partly also bags were controlled, especially with the people who were a bit more flashy.Every cab?So how far do they go? Just checking who looks "suspicious“ or literally everyone has to empty their pockets or even more… Luckily haven’t seen that in 15 years Ibiza yet.
jimmiz
Well-Known Member
Also surprised to read it from Grego...Gotta say that Grego's post is one of the most arrogant things I've ever read on here. V sad as I always thought he was one of the good guys. Basically saying that if you get crushed to death at a party it's your own fault for being there. I mean, wow..
Bucko08
Well-Known Member
Overcrowded/oversold is the ideal for no one, except the people cashing up at home time... Busy but room to navigate around should be the ideal. And everyone should be happy.
You only have to read through the Akasha thread to get a good idea of what most punters want.
You only have to read through the Akasha thread to get a good idea of what most punters want.
FlatErik
Well-Known Member
Experienced serious overcrowding in both Amnesia and DC10 this season, seems to get worse every season and i'm "baffled" that no one has died yet.
North
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If an incident incide an oversold club happends and there is a stampede on top of the incident when people want to get out as fast as possible no matter what, who is responsible then.. My good guess is no-one.
4tothefloor
Active Member
I haven’t had the over full DC10 experience. But I have been caught up in it at Amnesia in the corridor between the rooms, Privilege when trying to get downstairs from Vista and Hi when trying to get in and out of the main room. Pacha seems to flow better than most, but it’s a devil to get upstairs from the club entrance when the venue is rammed. Reports of overcrowding seem to occur more often now and despite the rising costs, I can’t remember a year where there have been more sell out crowds. I hope it never happens, but under current arrangements, it’s easy to see how a stampede / crush will happen at some point. I do think it is all resolvable though.
Franciscocunha
Member
RIP Ibiza clubs.. i don't understand how money talks lounder. Ibiza has always been on the world dance music circuit and has never been so full. What explains this? Fights more cheap? More instagram? new era?...
cunninghamali
Well-Known Member
Sorry grego but you are totally wrong! Are you saying this because you are a promoter because yeh the money part would be important to you. It's not because we are older and not in the right frame of mind
We know the difference when it's busy and overcrowded, seriously dangerous also puts people in a bad mood if u can't move and dance freely as you want and move around the club with ease. God forbid if we have to evacuate because of fire or something, we would be f***ed!
So much so that fights in Hï have been reported, that's not the ibiza we know and love! I was so pissed after leaving hi the other week is really not enjoyable when it's so over crowded and ruined the night
They really should do something about it!
I did comment on yannis (hi and ushuaia promoter) post on Instagram about the over crowding
We know the difference when it's busy and overcrowded, seriously dangerous also puts people in a bad mood if u can't move and dance freely as you want and move around the club with ease. God forbid if we have to evacuate because of fire or something, we would be f***ed!
So much so that fights in Hï have been reported, that's not the ibiza we know and love! I was so pissed after leaving hi the other week is really not enjoyable when it's so over crowded and ruined the night
They really should do something about it!
I did comment on yannis (hi and ushuaia promoter) post on Instagram about the over crowding
one big reason I think, is that brand Ibiza has never been stronger. If you think that even one and a half decades ago, the majority 18 to 21 year olds were probably going elsewhere in the Med on their first, second and third independent holidays. Instagram, Snapchat and Tik-Tok are relatively new cultural phenomena. Ask yourself, what is the online visibility of places like Ayia Napa, Magaluf, Zante, Crete and Corfu compared to Ibiza? their presence is non-existent
Hogimuzik
Active Member
And thats how you you sum it up..This is the perfect answer... Hope the summer went wellhi everyone, dropping in to the old neighbourhood after another long season. hope everyone is ok?
regarding OVERCROWDING
honestly, I'm actually baffled and find it hilarious that after a lifetime of going to clubs in ibiza, clubs in general anywhere, understanding even the slightest thing about how society works, that people are still talking about busy clubs in ibiza.
Generally I tend to find most of these people aren't even attending the events or haven't experienced what they're talking about recently, they just see things online or on socials and cluelessly chip in with their negativity. These are the people who are never happy, the club will always be too busy and piss them off, until the point at which it's then empty and there is no atmosphere. There is no middle point or positive scenario/outcome possible for people like this. There are a few commenting in this thread like this. These people typically also moan about cameras on the dance floor and the young generation and the fact they like the music they like, not what was popular 20 years ago.
Firstly, how busy a club is or isn't is totally subjective to each individual. I've spent my life dancing on rammed dance floors cos generally the best parties are busy. Cream Courtyard, Cocoon Amnesia, Carl Cox Space. You're at the best party in the world, at one of the best clubs in the world and 8000 people are having the time of their life each week and keep coming back for more, but yet there is always someone unhappy. I spent several Amnesia Closings being squashed from all sides for hours and honestly, I really didn't give a f*** cos that was how it goes down for a party like that. It's not Sunday service at the village church. It's a big, fat, dirty, sweaty, chaotic rave.
How anyone can go to El Row, one of the most famous and popular parties in the world, fully knowing it is going to be a riot and full on and intense (sounds good to me!), yet feel upset cos it was a busy at the bar and toilets, it's mind boggling. These are the same people pissed off when they get charged 20€ for a drink in the club, over and over again, despite knowing exactly what the price is and it being their choice to buy or not.
As a promoter in Ibiza for over 20 years, including some pretty busy parties along the way, if these events were truly way way overcrowded and so horrible an experience, then the event wouldn't work, people wouldn't keep buying tickets and come back for more and tell their friends about how good it was.
Honestly, every time someone complains about overcrowding at a club, there Is nearly always some other reason why they're pissed off. The taxi driver was a Spanish prick, there was a queue for the taxi, the ticket price cost the price you should expect for ibiza but it was still too much and annoyed you, you had to wait outside the club, they searched you going in and you got caught, you had an argument with your partner or friends, you were tired or worst of all, you went to an event where you don't like the music and everyone is younger than you and likes this shit music you hate !!! If you've got any of this on the brain in any way, then of course it being busy will piss you off.
Finally, again, people seem to ignore any efforts at all to improve customer comfort. Nearly all clubs in Ibiza, including, ushuaia, hi, dc10, pacha and amnesia regularly have sold out events, meaning that a set amount of tickets has been sold and that's that. Previously, even for the biggest events, you could always buy a ticket on the door if you were willing to pay the price and wait.
Sorry for the long post, but I've spent over 20 years promoting the island and the reasons why it's so special, in fact many of those years, were with Spotlight and nobody promotes Ibiza more than Ibiza Spotlight does and has fought harder to make sure the island has the most amazing parties in the world, whether you like it personally or not. The island is a meritocracy and always has been, If your party and DJs are any good, people will buy a ticket and come. If that means 7000 people a week go to El Row and have the most fun ever, yet you happen to be pissed of cos it's too busy, then you're the problem, nothing else.
2 years ago, the clubs couldn't even open, it's f***ing amazing that our Little Rock in the Med is back kicking ass the way it is. For the record, this website and business exists originally to encourage and promote new visitors to the island, to hopefully enjoy the same experiences we have and share in why we love it here.
If anyone wants a list of mediocre events with sparse people so you can get to the bar and toilets ok and the music will be shit as well...I'm happy to provide, but the chances are they won't be back next year.
Anselmi K
Active Member
I've never been a promoter in Ibiza, but I know what that job is and how important it is to get people there so that the event doesn't look like a failure and you yourself don't look like a failure. I have been dancing on the dance floors of Ibiza for over two decades and I love the sweaty, hectic and furious dancing with like-minded people.
But, as much as I would like to go to Circo Loco, for example, I just don't want to pay that price anymore, for the sense of danger that I feel there. I tend to think that if you don't accept something as it is, then you have to do something about it, try to influence it so that it feels good again, or you have to stop worrying and move on. My solution is to get to know things well and choose the things I like best.
I love Ibiza and want to get as deep into it as possible in this life situation. I like that things move forward and everything has its counterbalance. While big organizations seek maximum profit in business, it has strengthened the supply, quality and popularity of "not so commercial" events, where many of us have directed our interest, for example. We don't make these choices because we're just old, we move to them because we have perspective, we understand the history of the island and dance music, and we understand what's good and whether the content is worth paying for!
Peace!
But, as much as I would like to go to Circo Loco, for example, I just don't want to pay that price anymore, for the sense of danger that I feel there. I tend to think that if you don't accept something as it is, then you have to do something about it, try to influence it so that it feels good again, or you have to stop worrying and move on. My solution is to get to know things well and choose the things I like best.
I love Ibiza and want to get as deep into it as possible in this life situation. I like that things move forward and everything has its counterbalance. While big organizations seek maximum profit in business, it has strengthened the supply, quality and popularity of "not so commercial" events, where many of us have directed our interest, for example. We don't make these choices because we're just old, we move to them because we have perspective, we understand the history of the island and dance music, and we understand what's good and whether the content is worth paying for!
Peace!
mr_why
Moderator
Kind of find myself agreeing with both sides of the argument. I get what @grego means about just get in the party and enjoy, and things have always been busy.
However, I wonder if people consuming a wider variety of less happy substances makes people enjoy some events less? The days of everyone floating and bumping into each other and making friends with the person next to you for life is less common than it was IMO.
However, I wonder if people consuming a wider variety of less happy substances makes people enjoy some events less? The days of everyone floating and bumping into each other and making friends with the person next to you for life is less common than it was IMO.
Digital2013
Well-Known Member
Did see a report that its only going to get worse with climate change. Bed bugs also on the rampage in France and Vegas!
THIS.hi everyone, dropping in to the old neighbourhood after another long season. hope everyone is ok?
regarding OVERCROWDING
honestly, I'm actually baffled and find it hilarious that after a lifetime of going to clubs in ibiza, clubs in general anywhere, understanding even the slightest thing about how society works, that people are still talking about busy clubs in ibiza.
Generally I tend to find most of these people aren't even attending the events or haven't experienced what they're talking about recently, they just see things online or on socials and cluelessly chip in with their negativity. These are the people who are never happy, the club will always be too busy and piss them off, until the point at which it's then empty and there is no atmosphere. There is no middle point or positive scenario/outcome possible for people like this. There are a few commenting in this thread like this. These people typically also moan about cameras on the dance floor and the young generation and the fact they like the music they like, not what was popular 20 years ago.
Firstly, how busy a club is or isn't is totally subjective to each individual. I've spent my life dancing on rammed dance floors cos generally the best parties are busy. Cream Courtyard, Cocoon Amnesia, Carl Cox Space. You're at the best party in the world, at one of the best clubs in the world and 8000 people are having the time of their life each week and keep coming back for more, but yet there is always someone unhappy. I spent several Amnesia Closings being squashed from all sides for hours and honestly, I really didn't give a f*** cos that was how it goes down for a party like that. It's not Sunday service at the village church. It's a big, fat, dirty, sweaty, chaotic rave.
How anyone can go to El Row, one of the most famous and popular parties in the world, fully knowing it is going to be a riot and full on and intense (sounds good to me!), yet feel upset cos it was a busy at the bar and toilets, it's mind boggling. These are the same people pissed off when they get charged 20€ for a drink in the club, over and over again, despite knowing exactly what the price is and it being their choice to buy or not.
As a promoter in Ibiza for over 20 years, including some pretty busy parties along the way, if these events were truly way way overcrowded and so horrible an experience, then the event wouldn't work, people wouldn't keep buying tickets and come back for more and tell their friends about how good it was.
Honestly, every time someone complains about overcrowding at a club, there Is nearly always some other reason why they're pissed off. The taxi driver was a Spanish prick, there was a queue for the taxi, the ticket price cost the price you should expect for ibiza but it was still too much and annoyed you, you had to wait outside the club, they searched you going in and you got caught, you had an argument with your partner or friends, you were tired or worst of all, you went to an event where you don't like the music and everyone is younger than you and likes this shit music you hate !!! If you've got any of this on the brain in any way, then of course it being busy will piss you off.
Finally, again, people seem to ignore any efforts at all to improve customer comfort. Nearly all clubs in Ibiza, including, ushuaia, hi, dc10, pacha and amnesia regularly have sold out events, meaning that a set amount of tickets has been sold and that's that. Previously, even for the biggest events, you could always buy a ticket on the door if you were willing to pay the price and wait.
Sorry for the long post, but I've spent over 20 years promoting the island and the reasons why it's so special, in fact many of those years, were with Spotlight and nobody promotes Ibiza more than Ibiza Spotlight does and has fought harder to make sure the island has the most amazing parties in the world, whether you like it personally or not. The island is a meritocracy and always has been, If your party and DJs are any good, people will buy a ticket and come. If that means 7000 people a week go to El Row and have the most fun ever, yet you happen to be pissed of cos it's too busy, then you're the problem, nothing else.
2 years ago, the clubs couldn't even open, it's f***ing amazing that our Little Rock in the Med is back kicking ass the way it is. For the record, this website and business exists originally to encourage and promote new visitors to the island, to hopefully enjoy the same experiences we have and share in why we love it here.
If anyone wants a list of mediocre events with sparse people so you can get to the bar and toilets ok and the music will be shit as well...I'm happy to provide, but the chances are they won't be back next year.
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Yep, agree with the second bit also.
People are less concerned with how busy an event is if people aren't falling all over you in a zombie-like state.
Maybe in summary - busy is good, busy with zombies is bad?
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