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feynman said:
Not working proper at low frequencies.
Question of wave length ... ( the noise directing , the countet noise is working )
Most of the professional speakers are line arrays. Only way to create the sound pressure level. See the arrays in pacha.
These are angled and curved.
You can create noise spots and can directing the sound. But it has limits.
What the students did is counter noise.
It has his limits , too. With a little delay it doesnt work. Used in cars , planes, headphones and so on.
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Yeah I appreciate that.

Does seem directed speaker arrays are ways to help this and "cardioid subwoofer array" (every day is a school day 😆) which has forward and rear facing speakers. The rears fire out cancelling bass.

And then baffles to help as well. So perhaps cover walls outside the clubs with cardboard egg boxes 😄

Found this old post in interwebs an interesting read:
gearspace.com

Outdoor Noise Cancellation Pa System - Gearspace

Ok heres the Dilemna: Outdoor Teakee bar and restaurant is located across about 1/4 mile across water from very expensive waterfront homes. Because the
gearspace.com

Guess if clubs are serious about fitting in more on the island and considering locals they need to spend money on more cutting edge stuff like this.

A truck load of water bottles should more than cover the cost 😗
 
MrHullMysterious said:
A truck load of water bottles should more than cover the cost 😗
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Cost price €0.50 (probably lower than this as would get a wholesale discount)
Gross Sales price €12.00
VAT rate: 23%
Net Sales price: €9.76
Gross profit per bottle: €9.26

40 pallets per truck
Est 2000 bottles per pallet
Total 80,000 bottles per truck
Total gross profit: €740,800
Less corporation tax at 25%: €185,200
Retained profit: €555,600

Excluding all other overheads such as staffing, power, rent etc etc.

Not bad, not bad at all......

7000 capacity venue at Ushuaia, say on average every person there drinks 1.5 bottles per gig at a venue capacity fill rate of 60%, that's an average retained profit of €43,753 per night on water. Then say that they put on 100 nights a year..... €4,375,350 profit a year. On water.
 
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eclipse15 said:
Cost price €0.50 (probably lower than this as would get a wholesale discount)
Gross Sales price €12.00
VAT rate: 23%
Net Sales price: €9.76
Gross profit per bottle: €9.26

40 pallets per truck
Est 2000 bottles per pallet
Total 80,000 bottles per truck
Total gross profit: €740,800
Less corporation tax at 25%: €185,200
Retained profit: €555,600

Excluding all other overheads such as staffing, power, rent etc etc.

Not bad, not bad at all......

4000 capacity venue at Ushuaia, say on average every person there drinks 1.5 bottles per gig, that's an average retained profit of €41,670 per night on water. Then say that they put on 100 nights a year..... €4,167,000 profit a year. On water.
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Wow.

Ushuaia iirc is 9-10k capacity. But might be remembering wrong. (And not all events fill it of course)
 
MrHullMysterious said:
Yeah I appreciate that.

Does seem directed speaker arrays are ways to help this and "cardioid subwoofer array" (every day is a school day 😆) which has forward and rear facing speakers. The rears fire out cancelling bass.

And then baffles to help as well. So perhaps cover walls outside the clubs with cardboard egg boxes 😄

Found this old post in interwebs an interesting read:
gearspace.com

Outdoor Noise Cancellation Pa System - Gearspace

Ok heres the Dilemna: Outdoor Teakee bar and restaurant is located across about 1/4 mile across water from very expensive waterfront homes. Because the
gearspace.com

Guess if clubs are serious about fitting in more on the island and considering locals they need to spend money on more cutting edge stuff like this.

A truck load of water bottles should more than cover the cost 😗
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Its a interesting issue. Early times : 4 or 6 Speakers , 2 or 3 Stereo Amps , often clipping and distorting .Speakers were horns. Only way to make the sound pressure.
Today it looks different. Its more complicated and much more expensive. Big Sound Systems are million dollar projects. But they are much better than 30 years ago. Big steps forward. Hifi steps were smaller.
 
€9.26 * 1.5 * (7000 * 60%) = €58,338

Or have I messed up the maths? 😆

Include soft drinks and alcohol which has huge mark up and ticket prices adds up to a huge wodge.

But then take off the huge cost of the dj each night (guetta/Calvin 100-250k per night?) as well as production and staff costs, might lead to not much profit. 🤷‍♂️

However the original point is if DC10 want to keep going and not annoy people living there, they need to try something different with sound system, otherwise future looks not good.
 
MrHullMysterious said:
€9.26 * 1.5 * (7000 * 60%) = €58,338

Or have I messed up the maths? 😆
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Gotta take the 25% tax rate off as well to get to the final, in the bank cash profit

From my industry experience here in the UK, the aim always used to be to make sure that the ticket sales cover the cost of the acts that were booked.

In the case of CH, €90 a ticket, say they sell 6500 with 1500 hangers on/hotel guests to get to an 8,000 person event, thats €585k minus the VAT- should cover the fees, riders etc for the night. Plus, CH lives round the corner now, so just needs a discobus back to his farm!
 
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I was surprised how far o beach sound travels across the bay tbf as well. Probs suffers same issue where sound comes over the fence and crosses unimpeded over the flat water.

Either way I can understand the locals being fed up with low bass boom boom boom, night after night. That will disturb your sleep.

Either:
Stick a roof on the open air parts
Have sound cut off/limiter
Better intelligent sound system
Get shut down.
🤷‍♂️
 
Browny said:

I’ve heard it all now:lol: credit checks to get in a country aye right
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Tbf there has been a lot of posts on group I run of people saying coming over but no accommodation/too expensive, plz help.

So this in a way makes sense. So long as they don't demand a minimum spend per day to be on the island...
 
eclipse15 said:
Cost price €0.50 (probably lower than this as would get a wholesale discount)
Gross Sales price €12.00
VAT rate: 23%
Net Sales price: €9.76
Gross profit per bottle: €9.26

40 pallets per truck
Est 2000 bottles per pallet
Total 80,000 bottles per truck
Total gross profit: €740,800
Less corporation tax at 25%: €185,200
Retained profit: €555,600

Excluding all other overheads such as staffing, power, rent etc etc.

Not bad, not bad at all......

7000 capacity venue at Ushuaia, say on average every person there drinks 1.5 bottles per gig at a venue capacity fill rate of 60%, that's an average retained profit of €43,753 per night on water. Then say that they put on 100 nights a year..... €4,375,350 profit a year. On water.
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Wowser.. and to think water is pretty much a free resource too. I'd only be happy with these numbers if they sold water in cans or recyclable boxes and donated to charity to help those without water supplies (like Glastonbury)
 
Tourist said:
I think it’s cos they don’t want casuals/cash in handers coming in and then getting on the system? We’ve noticed how border staff have got more hardcore this end
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And it's not like they're just picking on the UK. It's the rules for non-EU countries. Brexit means Brexit...

That said, would be quite amazed if it's done as any sort of regular check.
 
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