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el_loco

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That‘s been baffling me at first too. From my country I know the left to be more party friendly. But as nightlife and tourism is number one industry in Ibiza, it‘s the traditionally more economy-friendly conservatives who show more leniency. Every euro earneed more by a club who can open longer means more taxes for the government/people.
 

AntonioGeordio

Active Member
Regardless of who gets in the top seat, how long does it take for any changes to filter down to the action?

As in, this new party decides to change a few rules when they get in power. Does it happen overnight or do they have to wait till the following year or something?

I will refrain from comparing it to any British political system I am familiar with, as I imagine the Spanish system is just as crazy and buerocratical.

Here in the UK our great honourable gentleman will spend years debating fox hunting or how to implement a badger cull, but will invade countries like Iraq to start all out war in the space of a few weeks and a few dodgy pieces of intelligence 😄👍
 

LuckyBlueSuit

Active Member
Why are you struggling with this? Centre right, more pro market, expanding the economy, making money etc.
That’s all very true but too simplistic. Right centrists and right wingers are conservative but obviously pro economic growth. However I think the point here is that we were under the impression that previous governments were seeking to change the economy. It wasn’t about being pro or anti party, it was about changing the party clientele to be more focussed on those with greater disposable income, ie middle and upper middle classes. The policies employed in san an over the last decade are very much about economic growth, conservativism, middle and upper classes and a narrower affluent market.
 

stivi

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Staff member
That’s all very true but too simplistic. Right centrists and right wingers are conservative but obviously pro economic growth. However I think the point here is that we were under the impression that previous governments were seeking to change the economy. It wasn’t about being pro or anti party, it was about changing the party clientele to be more focussed on those with greater disposable income, ie middle and upper middle classes. The policies employed in san an over the last decade are very much about economic growth, conservativism, middle and upper classes and a narrower affluent market.
fact is there wasn't and there still isn't a clear stategy/direction for the entire island, no matter which party is at power.
 

LuckyBlueSuit

Active Member
fact is there wasn't and there still isn't a clear stategy/direction for the entire island, no matter which party is at power.
Not sure that can be ever achieved with the islands geographical political structure as it stands. It’s very difficult to move to a whole island approach with from the current devolved and decentralised decision making apparatus.
 

Digital2013

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That’s all very true but too simplistic. Right centrists and right wingers are conservative but obviously pro economic growth. However I think the point here is that we were under the impression that previous governments were seeking to change the economy. It wasn’t about being pro or anti party, it was about changing the party clientele to be more focussed on those with greater disposable income, ie middle and upper middle classes. The policies employed in san an over the last decade are very much about economic growth, conservativism, middle and upper classes and a narrower affluent market.
Its the lack of a plan for San An that concerns me the most. Clamping down on the 'yob' behaviour and putting a few pagoda roofs down the West End doesn't automatically result in upmarket guests flocking.

San An itself doesn't have a great beach and large parts are high rise and not architecturally attractive. There are better places on Ibiza for an upmarket break such as Eulalia, Ibiza Town and Portinatx before San An.

I'm all for nudging things more upmarket, but its got to be a gradual change otherwise you end up with a ghost town like what happened to Falaraki which was notorious in the early 00s but is now dead, I'm sure the residents like the quiteness there now, but they won't be enjoying the lack of jobs and cash.
 

Crawleytown

Active Member
Really?! That’s fascinating. Political ideologies have new meaning in Ibiza then!
To be fair it’s the same political ideology as anywhere, centre right = pro- business.

Many on here probably just have a different political perspective on issues in an area where they are a tourist rather than a resident.
 

LuckyBlueSuit

Active Member
To be fair it’s the same political ideology as anywhere, centre right = pro- business.

Many on here probably just have a different political perspective on issues in an area where they are a tourist rather than a resident.
I quite agree. However with pro business there is conservativism. Agree about a lack of a rounded plan. I think the same can be said for most of the island.
 

ignite77

Member
Does anyone have a vague idea when Amnesia closing might be?
Been obsessing over tale of us since Junction 2 and want to go to ibiza for afterlife closing - but there is bugger all on at the weeked afterwards. Weekend of the 5th of October
 

stivi

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Staff member
Does anyone have a vague idea when Amnesia closing might be?
Been obsessing over tale of us since Junction 2 and want to go to ibiza for afterlife closing - but there is bugger all on at the weeked afterwards. Weekend of the 5th of October
absolutely no guarantee, but since amnesia's promoter programming (currently) ends 30th september with cocoon closing, I would guess amnesia closing might be 5th of october. which is a week earlier than last year, but last year both elrow and music on (when it still was at amnesia) went on until the first fri/sat of october.
 

ignite77

Member
absolutely no guarantee, but since amnesia's promoter programming (currently) ends 30th september with cocoon closing, I would guess amnesia closing might be 5th of october. which is a week earlier than last year, but last year both elrow and music on (when it still was at amnesia) went on until the first fri/sat of october.
great - thanks for that! much appreciated!
 

LuckyBlueSuit

Active Member
Soho in London has 100s of sex shops, gay bars, brothels, underground (pick your vice) dens and has been run by a Conservative Party Council for decades. They probably have 70% of the seats.
Fair point mate. Interesting see how ideology can be compromised in pursuit of business rates!
 
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