cunninghamali
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story not correct tho...typical Daily Mail
IBIZA FIGHT - WEDGIE!
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Amp and Deck
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how did the national and international media get hold of the story? - through here, or did you spread the word far and wide?
the thread on the El Periodico facebook feed is getting lively...
I think the anti-tourism thing has just exploded over last few weeks.
Also, at the weekend, some chechen paramilitaries murdered an italian guy in a club in Lloret de Mar! too bizarre for words
the thread on the El Periodico facebook feed is getting lively...
I think the anti-tourism thing has just exploded over last few weeks.
Also, at the weekend, some chechen paramilitaries murdered an italian guy in a club in Lloret de Mar! too bizarre for words
Life of Rye
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I uploaded the vid to youtube for you all to see then was approached by a journalist who basically wanted the rights to selling the vid
I gave permission and last night it ended up on the sun, daily mail, express....been doing the rounds on facebook as well
Since then it is still selling and just now received note of it going to a German news outlet
The vid has gained near 100k views and my subscriber count is climbing
Also going to start on part 2 of the vlog
balearic joe
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That's 3 newspapers you should have told,to get f***ed!
But for the attention you crave,and 5 mins of fame,you've added a lot of fuel to the anti tourist lobby... well done rye,no,really well done
kimajy
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... added to the Easyjet delay compensation claim the holiday should be self-funding any time now at this rate
gutsy
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I reckon his booked the closing parties off the back of it. If you haven't rye get those flights booked quick.... added to the Easyjet delay compensation claim the holiday should be self-funding any time now at this rate
McRackin
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that's exactly what happened documenting that moment!
Nostalgic
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Sign of the times
The video has done absolutely nothing to paint Ibiza in a good light. It should have been taken down from here, it should not have been sold to papers and as has already been mentioned it shouldn't have even been filmed.
Modern day journalism is shit. If the guy who discovered the video on YouTube wanted to report on such incidents how about he does what a journalist should do, go over there himself, do some investigating and research to build a creditable story about the state of affairs based on a series of incidents and findings. not just pinch a 1 minute long video from YouTube for a quick pound note at the expense of those involved and the reputation of Ibiza
Modern day journalism is shit. If the guy who discovered the video on YouTube wanted to report on such incidents how about he does what a journalist should do, go over there himself, do some investigating and research to build a creditable story about the state of affairs based on a series of incidents and findings. not just pinch a 1 minute long video from YouTube for a quick pound note at the expense of those involved and the reputation of Ibiza
kimajy
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... they don't waste any time in the graphics studio, do they ? !!
kimajy
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If the BBC won't hire you there's always a tabloid to play to !
Have to say for all the comments about not getting stuck in to intervening, there seemed to be plenty of other people more than willing to do that. If you'll excuse the bathos of the analogy - no-one suggests that a war correspondent should lay down their camera and drive the relief vehicle instead. Yeah, I know .... but you get the point - if you're the only person there that's one thing but with a whole queue of people I don't think it requires every person there to join in affray.
For all the controversy of it, and the irresponsible excuse for "journalism" demonstrated by the gutter press blatently disregarding and failing to establish the context (so no different to mainsteam news there then !), the video remains an evidenced insight into a state of affairs that raises serious questions on so many fronts. After an international tabloid-fest, surely it's now time for those in charge of the bus company to step back and materially address the issues which that incident clearly raises rather than burying their heads in the sand thinking that they can brush everything under the carpet and pray for October to come quicker ? Training, Support, Chain of accountability ... need I go on ???
Have to say for all the comments about not getting stuck in to intervening, there seemed to be plenty of other people more than willing to do that. If you'll excuse the bathos of the analogy - no-one suggests that a war correspondent should lay down their camera and drive the relief vehicle instead. Yeah, I know .... but you get the point - if you're the only person there that's one thing but with a whole queue of people I don't think it requires every person there to join in affray.
For all the controversy of it, and the irresponsible excuse for "journalism" demonstrated by the gutter press blatently disregarding and failing to establish the context (so no different to mainsteam news there then !), the video remains an evidenced insight into a state of affairs that raises serious questions on so many fronts. After an international tabloid-fest, surely it's now time for those in charge of the bus company to step back and materially address the issues which that incident clearly raises rather than burying their heads in the sand thinking that they can brush everything under the carpet and pray for October to come quicker ? Training, Support, Chain of accountability ... need I go on ???
ibizasunset
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Its abit like focusing on the brigg market in Newcastle, when the place has so much more too offer. But then the wrong people, in the wrong situation can occasionally explode.
Hogimuzik
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Why would someone stand there filming and not intervene. Why post muck like that and then claim to 'love ibiza'. It is the fuel that the anti tourism needs and rightly so. That shit is the only thing l hate about Ibiza, the fact that they choose to visit and not fecked off to Magaluf where they belong. That's not the Ibizan spirit that has drawn me back to the island for the past 20yrs. It's upsetting to say the least. He was only doing his job, a bus driver? As for the cameraman, hang your head in shame
kimajy
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As a guiri in Spain, is that honestly a serious question ? Any idea how much some of the perceived "locals" (using the term loosely as most of them are not actually Ibicenos nor permanently resident on the island) are looking for any excuse to kick the living daylights out of a "foreigner" in the peak of the August hypertension during a heatwave ? Honestly, I never thought I would actually feel compelled to spell that out.
I think they were all off to Benimussa and very likely not the same crowd you'd find choosing a holiday in Magaluf. The same crowd who fill the superclubs of the island at astronomic expense every night more likely
I agree with you but honestly, where have you been for the last 20 years ? That sort of thing has been going on in Ibiza for well over a decade in pockets. It's only very rarely that the truth is actually shown so publically. Just because it doesn't paint a halcyon portrait of Ibiza is no reason it can't be shown if it's real life. It's equally important though that the other side is as accurately portrayed - I'll try to at least do my little bit on that front soon. But I doubt anyone is remotely interested in sensationalizing peace, harmony and nature !
.... as I understand it taking into account the local news response.... he's not a permanent driver and was probably drafted in to provide extra services as the number of parties on the island (and people) reaches its maximum peak. He's apparently being awkward shrugging his shoulders when asked whether the bus is going to Benimussa after the control room is sending people there, likely out in 38 degrees in the shade. Lad establishes with control room it really is the right bus to get on - already past its scheduled departure time - and is told yes. Tells everyone it's indeed good to get on despite the driver's less than helpful demeanour. Bus driver loses his rag feeling resentful at being undermined, and decides to take out his frustration by physically assaulting him - likely with an authority complex. Entirely plausible and if he had really been doing his job it seems to me very likely the whole incident would never have happened in the first place as the lad would have been dealt with differently. Indeed maybe the bus would have actually left on time already
.If you were trying to get on a bus and the driver lamped you one, I'm pretty sure for many people it would solicit a response in kind. There's been no explanation put out in the Spanish press or anywhere else for what caused the bus driver to assault the guy. Perhaps there is no defensible explanation.
People are so quick to assume that the punter is the one to blame here, a symbol of all that is evil because he fits the stereotype of everything they hate about the younger generation of clubbing clientele - and of course he MUST be drunk or on drugs and have done something unforgiveable to deserve the slapping he got from the driver which started the whole thing. Again no proof of that whatsoever, pure speculation. For all anyone knows the driver may have previous for a violent temperament and/or "mistaken" the [paying] punter for his own kid. Having seen some of the behaviour of "Security" on the island over the last 5 years I'm pretty certain that a thorough background check is not always high on the list of priorities of certain recruiters. So I'd personally prefer to step back and think about the context before jumping to conclusions.
As far as the brawl is concerned it's the Spanish girl who weighed in more than anyone. That is no surprise at all either is it really - her BF got assaulted before the clip started, has a huge size disadvantage versus the driver and is clearly not coming out of the situation well. So she got stuck in. Well, he's her boyfriend not the cameraman's and she did what any hot blooded Spanish girl would have very likely done too in those circumstances !
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I wouldn't say rye was wrong not to intervene and I wouldn't recommend anyone gets involved in a fight unless they feel absolutely 100% sure they can stop the situation without it escalating further or causing further injury to themselves or those involved. I just don't think it should have been filmed. If you want to vlog your own life and document what you get up to for all to see on YouTube, insta, twitter that's fine. But don't film other people's lives for your own personal gain. How would rye like it if someone filmed him without his consent popping one of those audi pills he speaks so fondly of and then sold it to papers with a story of drug use in clubs? I'm sure he wouldn't like waking up today to see his face plastered all over the news with his eyes rolling into the back of his head with a headline about drugs. No problem at all with him not getting involved. I just don't agree with it being filmed and then sold