Gangs Abroad

I think I could have chosen a better title for this thread. Sorry.

I wasn't meaning to take moral high ground over others who holiday in San An. I just made an observation which I didn't like which others do on this forum. I just think that maybe people act a certain way when they are abroad compared to going out when at home.

Reckon maybe I'm getting older.
 
people act in a different way on holiday to their ordinary workaday lives. what happens socialogically in ibiza in 2007 happened in exactly the same way in blackpool in 1937. you can actually research the sociology of holidays!

i found this

"In 1937, Mass-Observation was founded to record the everyday life of ordinary people for a popular audience. The Mass-Observers followed labourers, from the routine of work and home life in the Lancashire Worktown' of Bolton, to the exotic realm of Blackpool. They recorded what they saw, hoping to discover what attracted workers to this crowded gawdy temple of Victorian culture and also to transcend class prejudice and sociological theory. The annual pilgrimage to Blackpool was at the centre of the annual cycle of renewal and release in working class life. Led by Tom Harrisson, the observers studied the holiday dreams of the Worktowners, the role of freak shows, and the themes of music-hall songs. They investigated crowd behaviour on the streets, beaches and in the pubs, watching the sexual interaction of the Worktowners on holiday. The observers also hoped to transcend class prejudice and sociological theory. The seaside and its attractions were a stage on which Worktowners released their feelings about personal life, family and work. Mass-Observation was unable to publish this study due to the Second World War. Gary Cross has now arranged and edited these largely forgotten testaments to labour and leisure in British society. With Blackpool historian, John K. Walton, he also provides perspectives on this study in essays analysing the history of Mass-Observation and its image in Blackpool. "

the book costs 75 quid !!
 
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tottenhamnelly said:
I think I could have chosen a better title for this thread. Sorry.

I wasn't meaning to take moral high ground over others who holiday in San An. I just made an observation which I didn't like which others do on this forum. I just think that maybe people act a certain way when they are abroad compared to going out when at home.

Reckon maybe I'm getting older.
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No, i think the title is ideal (tho sounds like the latest Ross Kemp documentary!) as it is a problem not unique to the west end at all, more as said above a pack mentality that affects a few d1ckheads.

i just dont have a problem with a gang of 18 yr olds dressed in womens clothes necking shots - its what i was doing in those days. I think it just gets my back up when people label them all 'beer boys' & assume they are all hoolys.

No on can argue that the tshirt you mention etc is just wrong & whoever wore it deserves a good kicking. No, I mean a good talking too!;)

HOWEVER, I was there in June when schools etc are mostly still there, so perhaps its very different in August?
 
MARKB said:
I don't think anyone is trying to demonise everyone who goes to the West End. It's "the few" that's the problem. And as the West end can get pretty rammed , "the few" can turn into a significant number.

I don't think everyone there is a yob. But there are a lot of yobbish stereotypical "brits on the piss" there. And that often leads to bother when they act like lairy XXXXX. Everytime we walk through the West End on a night the missus always hates it and is really on edge as we dodge the aggressive piss heads acting like bell ends. I'm not knocking those who like it, but let's not pretend it's a bloody garden of roses, because it ain't.

I'm surprised how defensive people get about this.
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True, I can imagine being with my girlfriend there mid season could be a bit off, i was another 4 lads in June. Different experiences understandably.

I know i am guilty perhaps of being over defensive on this. I just dont like the holy than thou & almost competitive moral outrage that some clubbers can display and automatically react against it! (thats not a dig at anyone in particular mind, i can be as guilty).

However i'm sure one bad night in west end would bring me down to earth..
 
I've never been in DC-10 so cant comment, but i assume it's no worse than any other club on the island where a large percentage of people are on drugs, i would normally use the word "drug addled" with someone addicted to hard drugs like heroin or crack not clubbers and ravers out having a good time.
 
Jonny68 said:
I've never been in DC-10 so cant comment, but i assume it's no worse than any other club on the island where a large percentage of people are on drugs, i would normally use the word "drug addled" with someone addicted to hard drugs like heroin or crack not clubbers and ravers out having a good time.
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DC10 is noticeably different :lol:
 
The west end is the same as any 18-30 destination in europe. No worse, no better.

I see fights and groups shouting every weekend where i live in the south east but to be honest, ive become immune to it...

As for the arguement about whether clubbers or lads on tour are more intimidating, its basically a drugs v alcohol argument, everyones wasting their time trying to sort that out!

To be honest, the way people look down their noses at the West End brigage is pretty sad... it serves a purpose and alot of people enjoy it. I loved it when i was 18, 19 and 20, i dont go there as much now but you can still have a good laugh down there and the owners of the bars etc are certainly alot better than they were in the 90's.

I remember a bar you could go to...you do a tequila slammer, snort tequila, put lemon in your eyes, the tequila barman put a crash helmet on your head and smashed your head against the wall. think it was peppers... it was phucking carnage!

That kinda stuff is pretty much gone now, so you could say the West End is getting better....

At the end of the day its 1000's of young lads and girls. All out to get plastered. You're gonna get trouble at some point, whether they're english or not.
 
toms said:
I remember a bar you could go to...you do a tequila slammer, snort tequila, put lemon in your eyes, the tequila barman put a crash helmet on your head and smashed your head against the wall. think it was peppers... it was phucking carnage!
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That was simples (aka soul city)

not that I ever entered into such terrible behaviour;);)
 
Buckley said:
That, my friend, is a tequila suicide.

(You snort salt, btw, not tequila)
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I remember being talked into snorting both the salt AND the tequila, getting lemon in my eyes, and then banging the slammer.
i was 18 and now i cant even smell tequila without feeling sick.

that was in 98, we went back in 2000 and got told someone had died doing it so they had to stop!

also, the amsterdam bar - 4 bottles of bud = free litre of vodka was a dangerous game!
 
I only ever got that rinsed in Ibiza in 1999...My first time over...Never again I was rank for 2 days after and came back with a white tongue with all the booze I knocked back...

I have the photo somewhere of me clinging onto a fence holding myself up with a face like Herman from the Munsters banging out a jobbie:lol::lol::lol:
 
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