for those of you brainwashed by tiesto...
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icebaer69
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are you brainwashed by tiesto ?
I just respect him. I don't like all his stuff, I do like some.
If I had to choose between him and Armand Van Helden, I'd probably choose Armand Van Helden, but he IS successful. I WISH I could be playing to crowds the size he plays. You don't have to like him but I think you have to respect him.
If I had to choose between him and Armand Van Helden, I'd probably choose Armand Van Helden, but he IS successful. I WISH I could be playing to crowds the size he plays. You don't have to like him but I think you have to respect him.
Do you not think he just has a face that asked to be punched?
I have zero respect for him. He is a sell out nothing more. Everything he does is anti house. The music is what matters not the dj. FFS he played at Disney world! Would you really want to play there?
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Ummm.. I've played at Mc Donalds man... Twice. . Whats wrong with Disney Land? He also played the Olympics. ... He's doing bigger and better and good on him for it.
. "Anti House", see, your making this about YOUR music. .. Have respect for what OTHERS are into. And no his face doesn't make me want to punch him more than any one else.
Why is he a sell out? Because he's a success? Thats not selling out.
. "Anti House", see, your making this about YOUR music. .. Have respect for what OTHERS are into. And no his face doesn't make me want to punch him more than any one else.
Why is he a sell out? Because he's a success? Thats not selling out.
Whats wrong with Disney Land? its a corporate wonderland that is more worried about selling you toys than entertaining you. Dont get me started McDonalds. As for playing the olympics its an international stage where billions where watching and what did he play? His own rubbish productions, where he could of brought great music to a mass audence. Its not about being bigger and better its about remaining true to yourself. If your really happy at playing in front of people eating $hit food then carry on son. Id rather not play out if I had to do that or play music other than what I love.
Im not making it about my music at all. Im saying that the original ethos of House music in general was that there where no stars the music was what was important. So by drawing that much attention to your self is anti House. Also in this category see David "Because im Worth it " Guetta
Because he is just a Dj who plays other peiople music and should put some perpestive on it. You can be a sucess and not sell out. Sasha and Digweeed for example are massive sucesses but still play underground music for the most part.
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madwhitegiant
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Funk me! Well I can play at this gig.
I can hide behind the screen, leave a Defected cd on and kick back with a bevie of beauties and plenty of schnozzle!
Well I be paid for it too? This is my dream gig. I knew I would be a DJ one day.
Robi3249
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I would say the point being made here is that you should go to a party to hear the music a DJ plays, not see the DJ. Very important distinction in my eyes. You can respect what someone does because of the music they play and the way they play it, playing at Disneyland or at the Olympics is only going to get the respect of Tiesto's bank manager, what difference does it make to anyone else after all.
Music makes the night, not the perceived personality of somebody behind a CD player.
Music makes the night, not the perceived personality of somebody behind a CD player.
The personality of a DJ is very important.
Robbie: The point I was trying to make is, that sometimes commercial/underground, establishment Vs anti establishment bull**** has to take a back seat. Be it for charity or be it for a good night out.
Commercialism is the UNITY in P.L.U.R. because it's broadcast far and wide and unites people together with something they ALL know, otherwise it wouldn't be commercial. Be it in the music, the artist, the venue, etc etc etc
This whole "anti establishment" attitude just goes against everything. Its all about the 'Respect' but, no one is going to respect you if you don't respect anyone else and to respect anyone else you must first UNITE with them in peace, and then you may even grow to love them. .. Maybe then you won't be crying anti this and anti that and **** Tiesto and **** and just enjoy the scene for what it is. ENTERTAINMENT. ..
Robbie: The point I was trying to make is, that sometimes commercial/underground, establishment Vs anti establishment bull**** has to take a back seat. Be it for charity or be it for a good night out.
Commercialism is the UNITY in P.L.U.R. because it's broadcast far and wide and unites people together with something they ALL know, otherwise it wouldn't be commercial. Be it in the music, the artist, the venue, etc etc etc
This whole "anti establishment" attitude just goes against everything. Its all about the 'Respect' but, no one is going to respect you if you don't respect anyone else and to respect anyone else you must first UNITE with them in peace, and then you may even grow to love them. .. Maybe then you won't be crying anti this and anti that and **** Tiesto and **** and just enjoy the scene for what it is. ENTERTAINMENT. ..
Hold up a minute mate, what have you been smoking this morning?
You have gone from making a discussion about Tiesto into an attack on me respecting people. PLUR is a great thing but Respect has to be earned. I respect every one who is true to their selves.
What does it matter to you if I dont like Tiesto? I have given a resanable arguement for why I dont so you should respect that decision. You have been creating arguement with most of the people on here by telling everyone one that you are right and they are wrong.
How old are you mate? You seem to be an angry young man to me.
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Im sorry I was reffering to Robie249.
But as for you.. HOWS ABOUT A BIG STEAMING PILE OF I DON'T GIVE A ****
Nah Im kidding. I respect your opinion mate. Just, don't agree with it. LIke, I think its one thing to not like someones music, but music and personality are 2 different things.
I don't think you should judge one on the other and so if you don't like his music, thats cool, but, I've never met him so I can't speak for his personality. As for his music tho, personally I like some of it so, I can't say that he's a bad man and doesn't deserve what he has because of that. I HAVE to say "well I like some of his music therefor maybe he deserves what he has." .. If I didn't like his music I could say "well he makes **** music so maybe he DOESN'T deserve what he has." all tho, I think even then I'd still be saying "I don't like it but many others do." .. How ever, I couldn't ever say "I think he's a tosser" just because he's famous. If he hurt a mate or something then I could say "he's a tosser" but then he'd still have to be a tosser who makes some good songs.
The Plur thing in regards to the other Rob was to try and say that sometimes these big things he does can be beneficial to everyone in the scene if only those who don't like his stuff stop being so against them. .. They ARE bringing people together and thats admirable, as are many other big gigs of other EDM formats. .. People should be open minded to eachother and eachothers tastes and not be so quick to label someone and judge the quality of their personality based on those likes and dislikes.
Ie: The assumption that people who like Tiesto are brainwashed, lends to the notion that people who like Tiesto are easily manipulated because of their lack of intelligence.
But as for you.. HOWS ABOUT A BIG STEAMING PILE OF I DON'T GIVE A ****
Nah Im kidding. I respect your opinion mate. Just, don't agree with it. LIke, I think its one thing to not like someones music, but music and personality are 2 different things.
I don't think you should judge one on the other and so if you don't like his music, thats cool, but, I've never met him so I can't speak for his personality. As for his music tho, personally I like some of it so, I can't say that he's a bad man and doesn't deserve what he has because of that. I HAVE to say "well I like some of his music therefor maybe he deserves what he has." .. If I didn't like his music I could say "well he makes **** music so maybe he DOESN'T deserve what he has." all tho, I think even then I'd still be saying "I don't like it but many others do." .. How ever, I couldn't ever say "I think he's a tosser" just because he's famous. If he hurt a mate or something then I could say "he's a tosser" but then he'd still have to be a tosser who makes some good songs.
The Plur thing in regards to the other Rob was to try and say that sometimes these big things he does can be beneficial to everyone in the scene if only those who don't like his stuff stop being so against them. .. They ARE bringing people together and thats admirable, as are many other big gigs of other EDM formats. .. People should be open minded to eachother and eachothers tastes and not be so quick to label someone and judge the quality of their personality based on those likes and dislikes.
Ie: The assumption that people who like Tiesto are brainwashed, lends to the notion that people who like Tiesto are easily manipulated because of their lack of intelligence.
hauskitten
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Naked... how bout a chill pill lol
Robi3249
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My comment was that music should be judged on it's merit and not based on opinion relating to who pressed the play button. I think that was the point of the cartoon strip originally posted by Olly. I have no opinion on Tiesto as I have never HEARD a set of his, by all means big the fella up but based on what matter's, the music he plays and not some bollocks about what it all means!
hauskitten
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It's ok Naked I think I might be on your side cos if I follow the 'herd' I will become as repulsive as a Tiesto fan
discoplayer
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pong!