Fabric
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BeachCava
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Do you have a link to this? I read Howie B's piece about how he's seen police as being utterly useless in stopping drugs getting into fabric, I'd be interested to read how the Met see the issue from their side...
This has, and will continue to be, a constant problem until authorities wake up to the realisation that people will take drugs wherever they please and just by shutting down venues it won't solve the issue.
Unfortunately for the rest of us, for the government it's easier to close a club than to put real effort into educating the masses as they can't be seen to be soft on drugs lest they lose their core voting demographic.
What worries me is, is this simply just going to delay the inevitable?
Even if fabric come through this with another (unwarranted) slap on the wrist, how long until the next time it happens? I'd put most of what I own on someone OD'ing in fabric long before the government relaxes it's position on drugs. Fabric will come under blame the next time and probably won't be able to survive another one of these investigations...
VirgoVirgo
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http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/n...e_abuse_inside_farringdon_superclub_1_4674138
I dunno where to start with it to be honest. Aghast.
I dunno where to start with it to be honest. Aghast.
VirgoVirgo
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Any links to this?
elmooreo
Well-Known Member
That article is ridiculous, read through it yesterday. A lot of tosh and hearsay. When you break down the facts, the boys smuggled the stuff in themselves, took far too much, got into trouble and at that point sought help....what else can fabric do save strip searching everyone as they come in?!
BeachCava
Member
Utter scaremongering:
"An undercover police officer on another date was also told Fabric’s bouncers sometimes pass confiscated substances on to their friends inside the club. The claim was not proven."
Not proven... hearsay, so why is this being reported?
"The first boy who died is alleged to have smuggled his own drugs past bouncers before taking them in the toilets with water bought at the bar."
Where is fabric's fault in this? Selling water?
"They said the further back in the queue clubbers were the higher the risk of them taking drugs or being targeted by dealers and noted that no one was asked to empty their pockets on entry."
So they're not inside the club and are buying drugs outside? Where is fabric's liability in this? Also, nobody wanting to get drugs into a club hides them in their f*cking pockets...
"They also noticed that the bars were “some of the quietest areas in the club”
What are dancefloors?
"The banning of dealers is “wholly inadequate” and involves a binder containing 100 faces that door staff cannot be expected to memorise, Scotland Yard’s chief licensing officer Ian Graham adds."
Show me a club which has a 100% record on banning dealers, there's no solution here, just a useless statement.
The whole thing is a real load of shit, but worryingly this is what fabric are up against
Steve Lawler comments on the fabric situation:
http://tinyurl.com/jb468wr
http://tinyurl.com/jb468wr
BeachCava
Member
Also a response from the petition creator after Sadiq Khan's letter the other day:
http://chn.ge/2bS5niq
Lawler echoing pretty much every other major name who has signed this petition. Enjoyed the tongue in cheek comment about the building being worth a lot to investors, I imagine this is a large part of what's going on behind the scenes at Islington Council...
It says a lot, and is a huge shame, that the council are less ready to listen to DJ's and people who spend their whole careers in fabric than to the dubious reporting of one officer.
http://chn.ge/2bS5niq
Lawler echoing pretty much every other major name who has signed this petition. Enjoyed the tongue in cheek comment about the building being worth a lot to investors, I imagine this is a large part of what's going on behind the scenes at Islington Council...
It says a lot, and is a huge shame, that the council are less ready to listen to DJ's and people who spend their whole careers in fabric than to the dubious reporting of one officer.
stepotts
Active Member
A Met officer no less, you can trust them as far as you can throw them.
VirgoVirgo
New Member
Who would have been mandated to follow a specific narrative from up on high... at the level where Old Bill interact with Cllrs.
tbh i think i think alof of plain clothes pc's have done other operations over the years theres nothing that surprises me about this ones report. Its the misunderstanding of real life that irks me the most. Fabric is probably a safer place to be than most central london pubs / bars
stepotts
Active Member
Yeah, shutting down a club where 2 people of died, whilst simultaneously failing to do anything about the hundreds of people getting stabbed/shot in gang wars. Such a waste of their resources that could be much better spend elsewhere. But they just want the headlines, rather than doing the important work.
I can't find where I read it now
but I bet any money you like this is what's behind it.It makes me laugh, the authorities can't even keep drugs out of prisons, which are rife with them, yet they complain about them getting in to a nightclub.
Great point. Not considered this before!
diver
Well-Known Member
I would suggest not
Evolution
Well-Known Member
Some of the commentary on there very worrying. A Councillor breaking down in tears over the deaths that have occurred? A ban on certain BPMs?
And the Met admitting they don't know how the Loop are able to provide drug testing at Warehouse Project in Manchester... don't know or never bothered to find out?
And the Met admitting they don't know how the Loop are able to provide drug testing at Warehouse Project in Manchester... don't know or never bothered to find out?