Erick Morillo

Also, if he did rape somebody (which it seems overwhelmingly likely he did) does that mean he deserved to die? Most of us live in societies where we don’t have the death penalty, regardless of what someone has done it seems a touch distasteful celebrating anyone’s suicide to me. Not a nice way to go.
 
Crawleytown said:
Also, if he did rape somebody (which it seems overwhelmingly likely he did) does that mean he deserved to die? Most of us live in societies where we don’t have the death penalty, regardless of what someone has done it seems a touch distasteful celebrating anyone’s suicide to me. Not a nice way to go.
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I say he guessed that a tsunami was about to hit him.. I've read stuff that I would not post anywhere about his form .. sickening stuff and how he got Away with it for so long is unbelievable. Alot distanced themselves from him.. smart move
 
Crawleytown said:
Also, if he did rape somebody (which it seems overwhelmingly likely he did) does that mean he deserved to die? Most of us live in societies where we don’t have the death penalty, regardless of what someone has done it seems a touch distasteful celebrating anyone’s suicide to me. Not a nice way to go.
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Who is celebrating his suicide? He didn't get any penalty as it would seem he chose to top himself without facing justice. He chose not to face the consequences of his alleged actions.
 
Crawleytown said:
Not talking about the rape allegation here, but where we’re all these other stories and comments about him when he was alive and able to defend himself?
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You might ask the same about Jimmy Saville... He was only properly outed as a nonce after his death. I guess it's easier for victims to come forward officially after they've seen others come forward? But it seems for both it was known about within their industry.
 
Dirk Bigler said:
Why bring up the topic of ‘false claims” in this particular case though? Even with best intentions, it makes it appear that you think that this particular case as well is others aren’t always as clear cut. I would rather believe all accusers and be proven wrong the extremely small percentage of the time rather than the other way around.
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You're right. The false claims don't belong in this particular case, the discussion was derailed a bit because people here were denying the fact that there (again..unfortunately) sometimes is a grey area in consent. And because posts are being pulled completely out of context to make a strong point... But in this case, it seems to be pointing towards a clear image of a person with issues taking no for an answer so I regret bringing false claims to the table now. Strange that all his colleagues are coming now he can't defend himself anymore, but okay.
 
white_isle_calling said:
What was your experience out of curiosity? Because I have a friend who works as a civilian psychologist for the MET, specialising in sex offenders and victims of sexual assault and another who works in a rape crisis centre who would completely disagree with you
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What aspect would they disagree on? That false claims exist and in a larger number than people would think? I have a long background in criminology and the judicial system but I agree with other forum members that this discussion got derailed from Morillo and that I shouldn't have brought the 'false claim' option to the table. I never said I suspected it to be a false claim in Morillo's case, my goal was to have a sensible discussion on consent and unfortunately people only want to see black or white, yes or no, while in reality....this is exactly where it goes wrong.
 
ElrowLovers said:
What aspect would they disagree on?
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They would attest that the number of sexual offences that go to court, let alone get a guilty verdict, are a fraction of the reported cases (which is of course, a fraction of the actual number)

Furthermore, malicious false claims are almost entirely acts of revenge eg. jealous ex-gf, feuding partners etc and these cases stick out like sore thumbs to the investigating officers. Despite what a lot of people seem to think, multiple women coming forward about high profile men are genuine complainants 99.9% of the time, which sadly doesn't mean they're easy to prove
 
stivi said:
I personally don't think this equals 'justice'
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fatphilb said:
Thats not justice
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....i think what we mean personally does not count in this case, we have no idea how one feels in such a case. But that the apparently numerous (!) victims, after a few years, don't have to be afraid to run into him again, will surely bring you more than any trial where the victims are only presented by lawyers once again !

What do you think why nobody of the others went to the police?
 
white_isle_calling said:
Furthermore, malicious false claims are almost entirely acts of revenge eg. jealous ex-gf, feuding partners etc and these cases stick out like sore thumbs to the investigating officers.
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That's exactly why I mentioned the difficult cases that don't stick out like sore thumbs, where people 'just went with it' under the influence of alcohol or drugs and regret the act in the morning.

Again, doesn't seem to apply to Morillo. Still feel very unpleasant that every dj and their mother apparently knew about his behavior but only feel the need to talk about it now.
 
ElrowLovers said:
Again, doesn't seem to apply to Morillo. Still feel very unpleasant that every dj and their mother apparently knew about his behavior but only feel the need to talk about it now.
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People talked about it. I did. But people talked about it in code. He was a ladies man. A bit of a handful. You wouldn't leave your missus with him, would you, ha ha? That was the culture, that's how it was dealt with. Hopefully that will change, but it will need a lot of big-hitters to admit that everyone knew
 
I understand the 'why did everybody keep quiet' argument but if it's little old you versus aggressive defence lawyers who will likely tear you apart you'll keep schtum - unless of course you have red hot proof...
 
stivi said:
if you re-watch the IMS interview now, the part where says 'the only addiction I have now is girls, girls, girls...' you suddenly perceive it a bit differently. at least that was the case for me
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Gosh, at the time you’d think that would be banter and acceptable. Not now
 
freakstar said:
Gosh, at the time you’d think that would be banter and acceptable. Not now
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There's a clip somewhere online of ex Lost Prophet's frontman Ian Watkins making inappropriate remarks about children on Saturday morning TV which were completely ignored at the time. Years later, he was exposed as one of the worst paedophiles UK prosecutors had ever encountered
 
Tourist said:
I understand the 'why did everybody keep quiet' argument but if it's little old you versus aggressive defence lawyers who will likely tear you apart you'll keep schtum - unless of course you have red hot proof...
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The people who knew most had the most to Lose. It always about the money and decent people can fool themselves. Someone I vaguely know but think is a decent chap, posted a link to a really shitty hit job on the victim. He just doesn't want to believe what's been in plain sight for ages
 
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