stivi
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I wasn't aware of that late notification you mentioned re deaths in NL, but broadly spoken, cases and deaths are going up in lots of countries around you - belgium, UK, your own country too. and cases you seem to have more than ever right now (don't get me wrong, I totally agree that 'cases' alone isn't very meaningful). but according your govt's website both hospitalisations and deaths because of it have gone up.
question to the people that actually know (@Hally , @MrHullMysterious , @Hurr1cane I guess) - when does flu season actually start normally in technical terms? it's still summer here on the balearics so I might be mistaken, but I always thought that it was later in the year here on the northern hemisphere. also, I think the whole flu subject is a tricky one - in australia (in their winter) far less people died apparently, exactly because the elderly protected themselves better than they usually would. so I'm really not sure how much flu season will influence this winter.
for a while already I was thinking that last winter, 'officially' covid only arrived in europe in february (with lots of pointers saying it was here at least a month earlier, possibly more) and then it got really bad in march and april. now it's only october (well, tomorrow only actually) and we have a full winter ahead of us. but yeah, I do hope people have learnt a little how to manage the situation and of course the health care sector has made progress.
lastly, I still feel you seem to ignore one important fact about the whole hammer and dance theory. the main point of this is that the hospitals can still work as normal hospitals and don't get overwhelmed even with the pandemic going on. as explained lots of times, here in spain, especially in barcelona and madrid, in the first wave, we got totally overrun and covid is all that was treated for a while. the health care sector now being careful in prep for winter in my opinion just makes sense. it also has to do with what clara said this morning in this same thread. and I am sure that a) the 'young should live on and get through it and support economy' would still overwhelm the health care system (my sis in law is a nurse and says the ones in hospital now over in palma, lots of the covid cases aren't old or vulnerable) and b) most european countries (except maybe switzerland) have showed they're actually pretty shit at protecting the elderly and vulnerable. I'm sure various countries have thought that through and just came to this conclusion.
question to the people that actually know (@Hally , @MrHullMysterious , @Hurr1cane I guess) - when does flu season actually start normally in technical terms? it's still summer here on the balearics so I might be mistaken, but I always thought that it was later in the year here on the northern hemisphere. also, I think the whole flu subject is a tricky one - in australia (in their winter) far less people died apparently, exactly because the elderly protected themselves better than they usually would. so I'm really not sure how much flu season will influence this winter.
for a while already I was thinking that last winter, 'officially' covid only arrived in europe in february (with lots of pointers saying it was here at least a month earlier, possibly more) and then it got really bad in march and april. now it's only october (well, tomorrow only actually) and we have a full winter ahead of us. but yeah, I do hope people have learnt a little how to manage the situation and of course the health care sector has made progress.
lastly, I still feel you seem to ignore one important fact about the whole hammer and dance theory. the main point of this is that the hospitals can still work as normal hospitals and don't get overwhelmed even with the pandemic going on. as explained lots of times, here in spain, especially in barcelona and madrid, in the first wave, we got totally overrun and covid is all that was treated for a while. the health care sector now being careful in prep for winter in my opinion just makes sense. it also has to do with what clara said this morning in this same thread. and I am sure that a) the 'young should live on and get through it and support economy' would still overwhelm the health care system (my sis in law is a nurse and says the ones in hospital now over in palma, lots of the covid cases aren't old or vulnerable) and b) most european countries (except maybe switzerland) have showed they're actually pretty shit at protecting the elderly and vulnerable. I'm sure various countries have thought that through and just came to this conclusion.
yeah its really strange on the work fronts out there at the minute. My fall back job is in construction, and that has been booming around the North East, I've been busy since July. Although on the flip side, a good friend of mine is about to collapse his business and start looking at other ways to make money ?
