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ElrowLovers said:
This is the problem with the Lockdown strategy.

The Netherlands have chosen the Herd Immunity strategy. The goal is to get 60% of the population infected while protecting the risk groups.
No total Lockdown...people are allowed to be on the streets and perhaps visit friends.
However, bars, clubs, restaurants, schools are all closed. Events have been cancelled. So while I can go out for a walk in the park, I cannot grab lunch anywhere or get a cup of coffee. I can however, invite some people over...although it has been advised not to gather in large groups (like over 10 people). Really weird situation but im really happy that it is no total lockdown (yet).

And I think it's the best solution too. Im afraid the lockdown countries will get mass reinfections and will choose the Herd Immunity strategy after all too.
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Correct.

Netherlands, UK, Australia following the most sensible policy.
 
There was a Twitter thread the other day from a doctor trying to explain the UK policy; the best line was that he found it reassuring that the strategy was so clever that there was no way it could've been from Boris which meant the real boffins were running the show.
 
TazLondon said:
Correct.

Netherlands, UK, Australia following the most sensible policy.
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I think it’s impossible to tell yet. Governments will be judged on the proportion of it’s population that dies. I think the UK has shifted position since Monday after calculating that 250k would die with the strategy they were employing. They are now targeting 20k deaths - I know that terminology sounds brutal.

The problem that governments have is balancing building immunity by infecting 6/10 people and managing impact on the NHS and mortality rates. Managing who does and doesn’t get it is a near impossible task. Lock down means immunity can’t be built, keeping society open in any way means there is no control over passing infectious. High risk groups can be locked down indefinitely but it will lead to severe mental health issues and social unrest.
 
That's all good for mainland UK meanwhile here in Ireland we have one part more or less in lockdown while in the North schools with suspected cases have requested to be able to close but are being forced to remain open.

Herd immunity is a an outcome not a tactic.
 
andrewhowie22 said:
There was a Twitter thread the other day from a doctor trying to explain the UK policy; the best line was that he found it reassuring that the strategy was so clever that there was no way it could've been from Boris which meant the real boffins were running the show.
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It comes from the chief medical officer. It’s shifted massively since Monday. Problem is the chief medical officer would take 250k deaths. We should be careful what we wish for, most of us don’t know if we have underlying health issues.
 
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soha said:
That's all good for mainland UK meanwhile here in Ireland we have one part more or less in lockdown while in the North schools with suspected cases have requested to be able to close but are being forced to remain open.

Herd immunity is a an outcome not a tactic.
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Northern schools in England are closing school year groups. On the face of it this is a bit odd in response to 8 confirmed cases in North Yorkshire where I am. However testing isn’t happening so no one has any idea of the scale of infection in reality. What is unfortunate is the conservative government is giving advice but no mandate which means we have no consistency and no control.
 
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LuckyBlueSuit said:
I think it’s impossible to tell yet. Governments will be judged on the proportion of it’s population that dies. I think the UK has shifted position since Monday after calculating that 250k would die with the strategy they were employing. They are now targeting 20k deaths - I know that terminology sounds brutal.
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Those numbers are based on Chinese numbers. And the Chinese counted every one with a temperature above 38 degrees as corona.
There are already way more people infected or post-infected then the current numbers can tell. So the UK is shifting position on impossible calculations.
 
School's will close before Boris and co close them due to the fact , some teachers have underlying health conditions ....Pregnancy ect ect someone in there family is self isolating....Schools then don't have the teachers to teach ours (Holderness area) are closing younger children's classes first , but they are also saying we will try and stay open for those that have parents on the front line.....
 
Confirmed case in my girlfriends office - only a small company with 10 people and they think she caught it last week but symptoms only started yesterday... better stock up on tinned soup !
 
craig79 said:
School's will close before Boris and co close them due to the fact , some teachers have underlying health conditions ....Pregnancy ect ect someone in there family is self
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And this is a farce, adding to the stress that these people are already going through, people/businesses/schools having to make the decision to close before the so called leader does.

Id don't know much about politics but people just want clairity and their leaders to make decisions
 
ElrowLovers said:
Those numbers are based on Chinese numbers. And the Chinese counted every one with a temperature above 38 degrees as corona.
There are already way more people infected or post-infected then the current numbers can tell. So the UK is shifting position on impossible calculations.
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Numbers quoted are based the uk chief medical officer.

Everyone has impossible calculations and predictions because very little testing is happening. You have to be right, the number of infections are massively unknown and underestimated.
 
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