craig72
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He has an knowledge of 80s hair brush power ballets that would not be out of place on Scorpions tour bus..
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craig72
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So far the Guinness's seems to be keeping the virus away.. the west Indies Porter is sure fire winner.. highly recommend
JB2008
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Re: flattening the curve and the importance of heeding recommendations to stay put. This illustrates the point nicely: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
Hally
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Dont flatten the curve and health and social care will collapse, we all need to accept very changed social and economic lives for some time
Gingersolstice
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No words! 
CasaNegron
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I dont disagree...
But to flatten the curve you risk economic collapse. Its not without cost. People have to eat.
How long should the restrictions be maintained? Most people I know cannot support themselves for two months without working.
An open question.
Hally
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Dont know the answer and an impossible balancing act. Working in healthcare my concerns lean to that but get that the economic effects will be devastating. You think of pubs, clubs, airlines etc but my brother in law makes and fits signs and who the f**k is going care about having a new sign? Dark times
CasaNegron
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Yes, it will be a difficult choice for governments to make. I feel for your brother and the millions (billions?) of people globally who are being disrupted. This is the 1st event that we are all suffering simultaniously. I speak of airlines and clubs and tourism because we are on an Ibiza forum. I also live in a place that relies on tourism, like Ibiza. Cruise ships have stopped coming (30 days minimum, but at least one cruise line has implemented 60) and people are not sure when they will be back. Most people here live paycheck to paycheck and have 14 days of grocery money.
What most health authorities are suggesting is going to take much longer than what most governments are wiling to endure, economically. They are damned if they do and damned if they dont. My best guess is that two months from now most of the emergency measures will be behind us, but not the virus itself. My evil twin says that the media will just stop reporting on it so much regardless of the situation on the ground... but I try not to listen to him too often.
This coming from the economics/ business guy
What most health authorities are suggesting is going to take much longer than what most governments are wiling to endure, economically. They are damned if they do and damned if they dont. My best guess is that two months from now most of the emergency measures will be behind us, but not the virus itself. My evil twin says that the media will just stop reporting on it so much regardless of the situation on the ground... but I try not to listen to him too often.
This coming from the economics/ business guy
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LuckyBlueSuit
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Chloroquine is the great hope.
S.j.R.
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kimajy
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Early trial data is promising. Multiple countries are using it currently as a treatment option. It isn’t a cure, but appears to reduce the amount of time a patient requires serious or critical care, and reduces severity. That would be a huge help for health care workers.
TheGreatRabbit
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So there'll be a run on tonic water ?
If the coronavirus can be beaten by throwing back some G&Ts, a lot of the UK should be golden
MrHullMysterious
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Not looking good in China where lockdown was lifted then put back in place shortly after, as it came back.Yes, it will be a difficult choice for governments to make. I feel for your brother and the millions (billions?) of people globally who are being disrupted. This is the 1st event that we are all suffering simultaniously. I speak of airlines and clubs and tourism because we are on an Ibiza forum. I also live in a place that relies on tourism, like Ibiza. Cruise ships have stopped coming (30 days minimum, but at least one cruise line has implemented 60) and people are not sure when they will be back. Most people here live paycheck to paycheck and have 14 days of grocery money.
What most health authorities are suggesting is going to take much longer than what most governments are wiling to endure, economically. They are damned if they do and damned if they dont. My best guess is that two months from now most of the emergency measures will be behind us, but not the virus itself. My evil twin says that the media will just stop reporting on it so much regardless of the situation on the ground... but I try not to listen to him too often.
This coming from the economics/ business guy
Also worrying ch4 report from an Italian ICU where ventilators don't seem to be having as much effect compared to how they would with normal flu. Worrying times.
Maybe this is when the top 1% (42 peeps with ~50% wealth) could really shine, step in and give a basic income to the needy for a few months....... ?
stivi
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claretclubber
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The c4 news article from the Italian ICU should be essential viewing for those who are not taking this seriously--it was grim.
We have friends who are not, I genuinely think it will take a few people's grandparents to die before it is?
The Sun God
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a good question too... there is a risk of social unrest if people are confined for weeks (months?) and there's no compensation or obvious improvement in the hospitals. when people are cooped up that's how jail riots start
the British government craftily 'advised' people not to go to bars/pubs whilst not actually formally shutting them down, which will spare the insurance industry mega bucks (whose leaders 'coincidentally' were pals with Boris at university, but I digress...)
Meanwhile, a lot of people I know esp self-employed and freelance in arts/music industries are desperately worried. Rumours also doing the rounds that Norwegian airlines are about to go bust
leaving aside the economics/politics, still far too many selfish dickheads sadly ignoring basic common sense at the moment
in happier news, pollution is down, am probably saving a fortune on restaurants and we're keeping our spirits up in the evenings
stivi
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ibiza lockdown chronicles, day two...
after a very long period without rain, yesterday and today finally some rain is falling here. the grey sky makes staying in easier too. yesterday I did quickly walk to the shop to buy a few things. my wife and I had deliberately not done a panic shop before the lockdown, so we don't have crazy amounts of food stocked. it was eerie to see all the streets empty. outside the pharmacy there was a queue (one meter distance from one person to the next) and it was one out, one in. the supermarket was a little more 'normal'. not very busy, but you could also feel people tried to keep a bigger distance than usual. it seems people have understood we won't run out of food etc, with a very few exceptions the shelves were well-stocked.
after a very long period without rain, yesterday and today finally some rain is falling here. the grey sky makes staying in easier too. yesterday I did quickly walk to the shop to buy a few things. my wife and I had deliberately not done a panic shop before the lockdown, so we don't have crazy amounts of food stocked. it was eerie to see all the streets empty. outside the pharmacy there was a queue (one meter distance from one person to the next) and it was one out, one in. the supermarket was a little more 'normal'. not very busy, but you could also feel people tried to keep a bigger distance than usual. it seems people have understood we won't run out of food etc, with a very few exceptions the shelves were well-stocked.
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