ashley cole

He's gay, she's a racist.

In the clould cuckoo land of celebrities, the marriage idea was dreamt up to preserve their 'reputations' (= image rights to the pop and footy spin off circuit) (not that there's anything wrong with being gay etc...)

Fast forward just 18 months later, and phase 2 of the arrangement kicks in, and Ashley's unbelieveably found out to be having an affair, thus affording them an easy exit scenario (and further distancing himself from the idea of being a homosexual due to being quite the supposed 'womaniser')

Job's a good 'un
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Agreed 100% :lol: Was waiting on the affair to happen.....and it did :lol:
 
No, it's not naive. I'm aware how the system works.

Yes, some people ask for the publicity. As a pop star or footballer, their careers, earnings, etc. can depend on it.

But where do you draw the line? Can you pose for pictures when in public but expect not to have people take pictures of you inside your house?

It's different for different people and Barbie rightly pointed out above that Ash & Caryl have put a little more of their private lives on display than others. Maybe Ashley had it coming.

But the effect is to cause substantial pain and distress for him, his wife and their families, and quite possibly to ruin his life. It's an awfully high price to pay.

To Puppylover, I've not seen that kind of attention to sports stars private lives anywhere outside the UK. At least, not in the US or Russia. Movie stars get a lot of attention in the States, but the US tabloids are not quite the regular reading that the broadsheets are. In Russia, the rich (so-called oligarchs) tend to get more ink.

A good question. If you're the type of celeb that thinks nothing of flogging pics to Hello and OK every week or having your publicist drop details to showbiz hacks of which nightclubs you're going to be fighting in/tottering out of that night, then you have to anticipate that every part of your life is going to be considered fair game.

Best to work on the basis that your private life is interchangeable with your public one in that case. These people in the end are marketing themselves as commercial products. Behaving like a diva when the Press go "too far" isn't going to impress anybody.

There's also revenge to consider here. The Sun's sister paper, the Screws, lost an expensive libel case against Cashley over the mobile phone business. Naturally, Murdoch's papers were going to gloat as hard as they could once they got him, er, bang to rights.

He's been arrogant and dumb and thoroughly deserves everything he's now getting. What comes around, goes around.
 
There's also revenge to consider here. The Sun's sister paper, the Screws, lost an expensive libel case against Cashley over the mobile phone business. Naturally, Murdoch's papers were going to gloat as hard as they could once they got him, er, bang to rights.

He's been arrogant and dumb and thoroughly deserves everything he's now getting. What comes around, goes around.
Valid points all, but what about their families? I mean, it's a good thing these two don't have kids yet but their parents must be having a fit. Collateral damage? The price they pay for earlier having been able to point at a photo in the paper and say "I'm so proud"? (obviously not for the nightclub stories :lol:)

I guess I have a hard time accepting that, by asking to be adored, your also asking to have your life ruined if you slip up. I know... all part and parcel of the celebrity age.

Still, cases like this remind me of other people who haven't put themselves out there for the attention but nevertheless are still hounded by the press.

I think you've hit the nail on the head regarding NOTW. If Popbitch is to believe, they're apparently preparing a festival of Ashley fun for Sunday's edition!
 
Valid points all, but what about their families? I mean, it's a good thing these two don't have kids yet but their parents must be having a fit. Collateral damage? The price they pay for earlier having been able to point at a photo in the paper and say "I'm so proud"? (obviously not for the nightclub stories :lol:)

I guess I have a hard time accepting that, by asking to be adored, your also asking to have your life ruined if you slip up. I know... all part and parcel of the celebrity age.

Still, cases like this remind me of other people who haven't put themselves out there for the attention but nevertheless are still hounded by the press.

I think you've hit the nail on the head regarding NOTW. If Popbitch is to believe, they're apparently preparing a festival of Ashley fun for Sunday's edition!


mate if you become a media bitch, you'd think you'd wise up and keep your nose clean.

fair game if you ask me. cant have it both ways, not in this day and age of "celebrity"

just ask that saskias cousin Louise Sweeney! :lol:
 
Still, cases like this remind me of other people who haven't put themselves out there for the attention but nevertheless are still hounded by the press.

Who?? I can't think of anyone that springs to mind who has been hounded by the press when they haven't courted the attention in the first place.

I think the press in this country is pretty fair in that if you keep yourself to yourself and aren't exploiting the media for your gain then they'll treat you/your family with the respect/privacy that you deserve.

It's really hard to have sympathy for these people/their families when they've asked for and exploited the fame in the first place.

On a sidenote I can't wait to read this Sunday's NOTW :lol:
 
Valid points all, but what about their families? I mean, it's a good thing these two don't have kids yet but their parents must be having a fit. Collateral damage? The price they pay for earlier having been able to point at a photo in the paper and say "I'm so proud"? (obviously not for the nightclub stories :lol:)

I guess I have a hard time accepting that, by asking to be adored, your also asking to have your life ruined if you slip up. I know... all part and parcel of the celebrity age.

Still, cases like this remind me of other people who haven't put themselves out there for the attention but nevertheless are still hounded by the press.

I think you've hit the nail on the head regarding NOTW. If Popbitch is to believe, they're apparently preparing a festival of Ashley fun for Sunday's edition!

But by extension shouldn't Ashley "flabbysmallfloppycock" Cole consider the results of his actions upon his family? - primarily his wife???
 
But by extension shouldn't Ashley "flabbysmallfloppycock" Cole consider the results of his actions upon his family? - primarily his wife???
Also very true!

I can see most of you belive in 'live by the sword, die by the sword'... fair enough. I still think the tabloids often go to far.

Hard to tell in this case.... again, as I said before, he probably deserves it... but the obvious glee with which they've gone after him is disturbing!
 
Who?? I can't think of anyone that springs to mind who has been hounded by the press when they haven't courted the attention in the first place.
Perfect example today: Nicolas Anelka. Trashed by NOTW.

Granted, he's been caught cheating which doesn't give him much moral high ground. But he's certainly not someone who's courted the press or sought special attention (aside from just being a footballer)

I think the press in this country is pretty fair in that if you keep yourself to yourself and aren't exploiting the media for your gain then they'll treat you/your family with the respect/privacy that you deserve.
Definitely not true!
 
Perfect example today: Nicolas Anelka. Trashed by NOTW.

Granted, he's been caught cheating which doesn't give him much moral high ground. But he's certainly not someone who's courted the press or sought special attention (aside from just being a footballer)


Definitely not true!

Sorry I forget that you're an 'expert' on the British press :lol:
 
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But I think its been made more public by the quotes that daft Tweedy has alledgely made in the past such as

"if my husband messed me around I would leave him"

To be fair, most people would say that but when it actually happens and you love the person, it's hard to know what to do, especially if they claim it won't happen again, yadda yadda.

BUT I've always suspected their 'relationship' for the reasons outlined above. Even on camera they hardly came across as close - him doing all the "yeah mate" chat.

And those National Lottery ads they did were just obscene. Flaunting their 'perfect' life so no wonder the press have always wanted to get one up on them.
 
I agree with your point Morbyd, that the press do seem to relish in the misery they must inflict.

But it's not limited to the UK press, the US is very celebrity obsessed and I think the US are more inclined to "Moral Outrage" than the UK.

Perhaps living where you do has affected your opinion, because the only newpapers are "The Putin Express" and "oligarch monthly" and character assasinations tend to be replaced with actual assasinations.
 
I agree with your point Morbyd, that the press do seem to relish in the misery they must inflict.

But it's not limited to the UK press, the US is very celebrity obsessed and I think the US are more inclined to "Moral Outrage" than the UK.

Perhaps living where you do has affected your opinion, because the only newpapers are "The Putin Express" and "oligarch monthly" and character assasinations tend to be replaced with actual assasinations.

Perhaps Morbyd could ask around locally on Cheryl's behalf if there's any Polonium-210 going spare . . .
 
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True, the US is very celebrity obsessed... the difference is that the celebrity tabloids and magazines don't have the same mass appeal that the daily broadsheets - or as they call them in the UK nowadays, "quality" newspapers - have. The New York Post (Murdoch's attempt to import the Sun to the US) doesn't outsell the NY Times or have anywhere near as much influence. Also, the focus is on TV, movie and music stars not so much the private lives of athletes and businessmen.

Re: Russia - despite what you read in the hysterical Western press there is a robust media market here. 2 quality business dailies, a handful of general broadsheets, and a few tabloids (including one, Tvoi Den or Your Day which is an exact copy of the Sun :lol:). There are quite a few respectable weeklies too.

The only line in the sand is criticizing Putin and his cronies. Only the smallest circulation publications get away with that on any level.
 
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The only line in the sand is criticizing Putin and his cronies. Only the smallest circulation publications get away with that on any level.

As far as 'lines in the sand' go - that's a ten tonne truck, dragging a giant lawnmower with sharks teeth kind of line innit really?!

I do not know how you define 'robust media' - however in any interpretation, the removal of the basic press freedom of critical commentary on our/your/their rulers surely is certainly not it?
 
Just another example of a young man with low intelligence and lots of money putting it about. These footballers do not deserve the lifestyle they have, they're not smart enough to use their money wiseley, hence why you get f.ck-ups like Cole, Wright-Phillips etc etc appearing in the papers every week.
 
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