Arches in glasgow forced to move to over 21's policy due to police

TM78 said:
What i would have is the police & council not discriminating against thousands of people over one tragic incident given the record of the arches/its safety record. just banning something shows a total failure to understand & deal with the actual issues (and gives in to the hysteria, and lets get it right, hatred for clubbing culture that still exists in the tabloids (the daily record, the Scottish sun...very repressive, and authoritarian in tone up here

if it had been a 21 year old that died, would the club have to go to over 25s??

glasgow has ridiculous licensing / curfew policy for the city its size, and the percentage of young people.
we have a policy in the city, where clubbers aren't trusted past 3am..but you can happily wander into the casinos until 6!
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Wasnt saying i agreed just pointing out that it's probably the only option they got given. At the end of the day the 18-21 year olds will go get wrecked in a different venue. It won't stop them going out enjoying themselves. Just unfortunately The Arches can't have them there anymore because they've filled their quota of dead children. it's like if you burn down a bridge on a river, people won't stop crossing the river they will just find another way to the other side.
 
Yeah, really liked that venue last time I was up. Claussell is surely the most melodramatic DJ I have ever heard. And that is a compliment. He doesn't always get it right (esp when in soulful noodly mood) but on his night is a great party DJ and very funny spectacle when he starts to lose it.
 
TM78 said:
for those outwith scotland, the biggest club space in glasgow has had to introduce an over 21s policy due to police threatening their license after the recent sad death of a 17 yr old which has been linked to a bad pill she reportedly took whilst in the club (several others at the same club night, also took ill and were admitted/treated in hospital).

the arches has been closed for 'club' nights since the girl died.

this also follows on from edinburgh council / police pulling the event license for a huge Hardwell show at Ingilston, due to concerns about the death of the 17yr old (& the supposed bad batch of pills called mortal combats that are in circulation) and also due to the bad press the Hardwell gig in belfast attracted due to the high level of drunk teenagers at the over 14s event in belfast..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26243564

it goes without saying that it a terrible tragedy that a 17yr old has died, but the police & lciensing reaction does nothing to solve the problem of people taking recreational drugs , and merely penalises all 18-20 year olds from now going to one of the biggest / best club spaces in the uk...it is a very sad state of affairs for glasgow / scotland as a whole for dance music and the effect will be long running on the arches, and its club nights and also no doubt on other dance clubs in the city, with police scrutiny of their licenses, searches , id checks, etc. (it has already seen the license for the biggest techno night in scotland (pressure @ the arches which is run by slam / soma) being reduced to 3am from the scheduled 5am (along with the new requirement for those attending to be over 21)

i would also argue this age discrimination / blanket ban actually endangers more young people as the arches is a well run venue & has all the onsite services that those in the club may require.
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it is a ridiculous law, especially since the incidents all happened to under-age clubbers. Maybe they should have I.D'ed them properly, although they can't be expected to ID everyone I guess.
Only time will tell how badly this will affect this great club.
 
I'm going to Pressure next Friday to see Carl Craig. I like The Arches but don't go often because the line-ups don't really appeal to me, and there's usually something better on.

It's a bit of a shame Pressure has to finish at 3 next Friday instead of 5.
 
DanielR said:
I'm going to Pressure next Friday to see Carl Craig. I like The Arches but don't go often because the line-ups don't really appeal to me, and there's usually something better on.

It's a bit of a shame Pressure has to finish at 3 next Friday instead of 5.
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3am isn't a great time for a club to close, 4am should be a minimum, 5am would be great, some London clubs don't close til 7am and even later.
 
ill be there friday for carl craig as well.... and tbh im not too bothered about the 3am finish..... ill just start my pub crawling earlier tomorrow with the club open from 2130 and ill be out my bed earlier on saturday as well...
also looking forwatrd to seeing J.Phlip is scotland for the 1st time :)
 
fatphilb said:
Consider yourselves lucky. 2.30am here.

Occasional late license to 3.30, but its a rarity.
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Used to be 1am when we started in Brighton. Off topic now, so lets bring it on topic.

I think the Arches made the right decision, assuming it was a choice of 'close down' or 'change age policy'.
However, the person who was stabbed should of been IDed in the first place, thus meaning they'd of never got into this situation.

If fake ID was used for the 17 year old, it's not the fault of the door staff in my opinion. Even with all the force of will in the world, it can be hard to spot a fake ID.
 
Ikoda said:
We struggle with that. Our venue shuts at 3.30am which is far too early
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Yup, that means the club is having to compete with bars and a lot of people wont pay to get into a club, if they can go to a bar for free.
 
Ikoda said:
I think the Arches made the right decision, assuming it was a choice of 'close down' or 'change age policy'.
However, the person who was stabbed should of been IDed in the first place
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No-one got stabbed. It was a drug related death.
 
Cable (rip) u had to walk through a scanner and then they scanned driving license or passport cos there were so many wronguns around
 
MiniMarc said:
Cable (rip) u had to walk through a scanner and then they scanned driving license or passport cos there were so many wronguns around
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:eek: They usually just waved me through the 'other' side of the rope to find my way in somewhere beyond the cash till ! Must've just been for the dodgy looking geezers ;)
 
45 minute queue to get in on Friday. Security put on a bit of a show: people being searched in front of whole queue, sniffer dog doing the rounds, people being taken away in vans, over the top police presence.

It was good night though. I enjoyed Carl Craig.
 
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