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icebaer69
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long b4 eden was called eden ( when it still was "kaos" plus some other crap names) it was a stupid idea to open a club right next door to esparadis
What exactly is going on with Gatecrasher?
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Discoallman
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A post I seen on facebook today
"Last week Gatecrasher Watford got seized by bailiffs, right now Gatecrasher Birmingham has bailiffs outside, Gatecrasher Loves Nottingham & Gatecrasher Leeds are closed, all of their UK clubs are done... Pretty much every act forGatecrasher Ibiza has left due to breach of contract/payment issues half way through their first season... This is what you get for not paying people that make you money! A few years ago when social media was a minority you got away with it, but not now... #karma"
"Last week Gatecrasher Watford got seized by bailiffs, right now Gatecrasher Birmingham has bailiffs outside, Gatecrasher Loves Nottingham & Gatecrasher Leeds are closed, all of their UK clubs are done... Pretty much every act forGatecrasher Ibiza has left due to breach of contract/payment issues half way through their first season... This is what you get for not paying people that make you money! A few years ago when social media was a minority you got away with it, but not now... #karma"
Dirk
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San Antonio, a resort not synonymous with clubbing? It is where it all started mate.
Pablo Montez Junior
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25-30 years ago maybe...
stivi
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we can't take this as an official confirmation, but it seems crasher is now gone too...
gatecrasher facebook posts from a few minutes ago:
Tonight sees a massive night for San Antonio! Big gigs across town in Mambo & Ibiza Rocks.
We will be open from 12 till late with House, Trance and Classics.
See you on the dancefloor!!
gatecrasher facebook posts from a few minutes ago:
Tonight sees a massive night for San Antonio! Big gigs across town in Mambo & Ibiza Rocks.
We will be open from 12 till late with House, Trance and Classics.
See you on the dancefloor!!
McRackin
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cafe mambo ---> fatboy slim
ibiza rocks bar ---> pre-party of ibiza rocks house (pacha) with basement jaxx
Ikoda
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Very true. Maybe the Dutch Owners will keep it as Eden and run it themselves again?
Ikoda
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Just found out that a week ago, the Gatecrasher run venue in Watford was seized by balliffs. Seems as well that GC Nottingham shut last year, which I wasn't aware of.
(http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/ne..._posted_in_window_of_Watford_nightclub_Cameo/)
Who actually played at 'Crasher last night?
(http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/ne..._posted_in_window_of_Watford_nightclub_Cameo/)
Who actually played at 'Crasher last night?
Ikoda
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Seen on the various posts that RAM and Ben Gold were not there last night.
Additionally, GC Ibiza has now removed Crasher from their website. Is this it, the end of the Crasher night?
William2021
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Is Gatecrasher still worth going to this season? Is the number of people going hitting rock bottom or is it still packed every night? I heard every gig is pulling out! Great news of course for Es Paradis. They must be having a fantastic time with this disaster next door! Do the club owners ever help each other out?
There should still be enough people in San Antonio West End area who want to carry on to a bigger venue but don't want to go far? you'd think there should still be enough potential punters to fill out the two clubs, specially in peak summer months.
McRackin
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We're back in San An this week to launch a series of parties at a brand new venue which is powered by Void Soundsytem. Located at the back of Gatecrasher and operating as a separate club, this intimate venue is set to become one of the best in the area. Joining us this Friday are:
Bones
Holly Lester
Hutch&Mason
Oliver Reggae
Fraser Stuart b2b Ryan Daniel Connolly
Josh Haiez
Roger 'White Trash' Neville
Mvson Collective: Omar Guedar, Blair Suarez, Adam Myles
Andy Raeside
Open: 11pm - Very Late
Entry, as always is free and we've got cheap drinks deals set up for workers.
someone please explain to me what exactly is going on!
Bones
Holly Lester
Hutch&Mason
Oliver Reggae
Fraser Stuart b2b Ryan Daniel Connolly
Josh Haiez
Roger 'White Trash' Neville
Mvson Collective: Omar Guedar, Blair Suarez, Adam Myles
Andy Raeside
Open: 11pm - Very Late
Entry, as always is free and we've got cheap drinks deals set up for workers.
someone please explain to me what exactly is going on!
Pablo Montez Junior
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Gatecrasher: the gate that finally crashed http://beatsmedia.com/#article/19784
Discoallman
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Ikoda
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Quite possibly a little of both.
Phil_Dicko
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Gatecrasher Official Statement
GATECRASHER STATEMENT
Further to all of the recent rumours / speculation over Social Media with regards to Gatecrasher.
As usual, sensationalist online portals and blogs need to create some air of speculation in order to further their own selfish pursuits and boost reach / exposure at the cost of the truth and anyone else. Their only interest is to get people talking, no matter what it takes or any ramifications it has for the industry or any other individuals. In the process of trying to deliver a "scoop", they invent stories from thin air and expect the public to swallow this. We do like to hope that people are a bit more savvy and smart and can see this a mile off, however in the same breath we do feel it is our duty to clear the air for those with any margin of doubt. As is always the pattern with these new age "tabloids" (basically online versions of crummy Newspaper publications). Also it is worth pointing out that not once has any Blog or Portal made any attempt to contact anyone from Gatecrasher for comment. It is very bad journalistic practice to not facilitate this, not to mention publishing false statements. Many so called "facts" are completely removed from the truth. This is currently being dealt with as it is a crime to slander a company with false facts and farcical articles since many statements are libellous as a result.
With regards to specific elements of this article:
Administration
The Gatecrasher operating company was formed in 1997 and traded as one entity to 2013, the same company entered into administration, a legal process used to breath life into business that have both good elements and bad elements. The business at the time had several onerous leases and despite discussions with landlord's most would not assist so the company was put into administration and the unprofitable parts of the company were removed. This allowed the profitable parts of the company to continue under a new trading entity with out this the whole company would fail and all would lose their jobs and the venues would have been closed. Unfortunately the administration process leaves some people in a position that their debts would not be met. We apologise for any financial losses and inconvenience however it is a process that saves many jobs and can allow a new company to grow and develop (and as such continue to contribute positively towards the economy for many years to come). The largest creditor in this process was the company’s and the directors of the companies. The process of Administration is put in place to safeguard jobs and good businesses that run into some trouble and is not undertaken lightly. It’s a very common practice under the jurisdiction of UK law therefore any statements that lean towards this being "dishonest", "malpractice" etc are just buzz words for a blog trying to inject some drama into what is quite commonplace in today’s economic climate.
Administration Creditor
Statements such as owing money to Barclays Bank are completely untrue , they are not owed a penny from the administration. The outstanding debt with University of Birmingham’s Guild of Students in the article is wrong and in fact they were offered a full payment back to the university but they declined. Crazy but true . Most of the companies and individuals that had outstanding debts with the administration had earned good money for over a decade out of the company so many took the administration as a small bump in a 15 year customer / supplier relationship, nothing more and most are still in fact working with Gatecrasher including but not limited to’ DJ's , Promoters, Print Companies, City Councils, Utility Companies etc. Sadly some creditors have taken this as a personal slight and now have vendettas against Gatecrasher using social media as outlets to create bad press
Anyone who feels that they they are owed money by Gatecrasher which relates to the Adminstration should contact Duff & Phelps www.duffandphelps.com /
+44 (0) 207 089 4700 . Any other payment enquiries should be forwarded to the Gatecrasher Accounts Department on the following email address: accounts@gatecrasher.co.uk.
Unconfirmed Reports
The section "Unconfirmed Reports" bears the clue in the title. We could make up any "Unconfirmed Report" and use it to publish any story we wish. It's an "unconfirmed report" that Beats Media fund terrorism. It's an "unconfirmed report" that YouEDM are actually the largest people trafficking organisation worldwide. It's "unconfirmed" that both of these portals joined forces to spread the Ebloa virus…. and to add insult to injury, they often say "By the way please subscribe to our Page so we can feed what we deem the uneducated masses more drivel". So called "Anonymous sources" also have no weight and must be questioned as a result for much of the same reasons.
Watford
The statement relating to Cameo Watford is not true. To set the record straight ,there were on-going negotiations with the landlord. The trading company was and is still in talks with the landlord and authorities to re open but only under viable licensing conditions. It is not simply a case of "rent not being paid" as the article states.
Nottingham / Leeds
Nottingham and Leeds venues were closed by Gatecrasher sometime ago as they were loss making venues. Anyone would have thought this news was old hat but I guess any blog needs as much information as it can in order to try and make an impression. Any business reserves the right to streamline their portfolio as the market dictates.
Ibiza
2014 has been a tough season for all venue's in Ibiza, not just Gatecrasher; it has been challenging to say the least, we have made some mistakes but we are in a much better position to deal with the challenges in 2015. When we set out with the Gatecrasher Ibiza project we like most promoters got caught up in competitively bidding on acts, artists and brands. As is the pattern, artist and brand fee's are becoming more and more inflated to the point that a lot of events become commercially unviable. Sadly some nights have just have not performed hence why we have had to make some changes to the programme. As venue operators and promoters we reserve the right to change our programme and concepts as the market dictates. This is common business practice. Of course people have been entitled to refunds for any pre-booked line ups and events that have changed as a result and we do our best to communicate this. For our up-to-date programme please refer to our Website or Facebook. Gatecrasher Ibiza remains open until September 2014 and we would like to thank all have been so far to the events in the summer of 2014. We will also be back in 2015 with new exciting news and events.
For the avoidance of any doubt, Gatecrasher Birmingham and Gatecrasher Ibiza both remain open for business. Gatecrasher works in the digital age and promotes free speech and opinion, however we do not support or condone any action that is damaging or libellous caused by false statements.
...*cough*
GATECRASHER STATEMENT
Further to all of the recent rumours / speculation over Social Media with regards to Gatecrasher.
As usual, sensationalist online portals and blogs need to create some air of speculation in order to further their own selfish pursuits and boost reach / exposure at the cost of the truth and anyone else. Their only interest is to get people talking, no matter what it takes or any ramifications it has for the industry or any other individuals. In the process of trying to deliver a "scoop", they invent stories from thin air and expect the public to swallow this. We do like to hope that people are a bit more savvy and smart and can see this a mile off, however in the same breath we do feel it is our duty to clear the air for those with any margin of doubt. As is always the pattern with these new age "tabloids" (basically online versions of crummy Newspaper publications). Also it is worth pointing out that not once has any Blog or Portal made any attempt to contact anyone from Gatecrasher for comment. It is very bad journalistic practice to not facilitate this, not to mention publishing false statements. Many so called "facts" are completely removed from the truth. This is currently being dealt with as it is a crime to slander a company with false facts and farcical articles since many statements are libellous as a result.
With regards to specific elements of this article:
Administration
The Gatecrasher operating company was formed in 1997 and traded as one entity to 2013, the same company entered into administration, a legal process used to breath life into business that have both good elements and bad elements. The business at the time had several onerous leases and despite discussions with landlord's most would not assist so the company was put into administration and the unprofitable parts of the company were removed. This allowed the profitable parts of the company to continue under a new trading entity with out this the whole company would fail and all would lose their jobs and the venues would have been closed. Unfortunately the administration process leaves some people in a position that their debts would not be met. We apologise for any financial losses and inconvenience however it is a process that saves many jobs and can allow a new company to grow and develop (and as such continue to contribute positively towards the economy for many years to come). The largest creditor in this process was the company’s and the directors of the companies. The process of Administration is put in place to safeguard jobs and good businesses that run into some trouble and is not undertaken lightly. It’s a very common practice under the jurisdiction of UK law therefore any statements that lean towards this being "dishonest", "malpractice" etc are just buzz words for a blog trying to inject some drama into what is quite commonplace in today’s economic climate.
Administration Creditor
Statements such as owing money to Barclays Bank are completely untrue , they are not owed a penny from the administration. The outstanding debt with University of Birmingham’s Guild of Students in the article is wrong and in fact they were offered a full payment back to the university but they declined. Crazy but true . Most of the companies and individuals that had outstanding debts with the administration had earned good money for over a decade out of the company so many took the administration as a small bump in a 15 year customer / supplier relationship, nothing more and most are still in fact working with Gatecrasher including but not limited to’ DJ's , Promoters, Print Companies, City Councils, Utility Companies etc. Sadly some creditors have taken this as a personal slight and now have vendettas against Gatecrasher using social media as outlets to create bad press
Anyone who feels that they they are owed money by Gatecrasher which relates to the Adminstration should contact Duff & Phelps www.duffandphelps.com /
Unconfirmed Reports
The section "Unconfirmed Reports" bears the clue in the title. We could make up any "Unconfirmed Report" and use it to publish any story we wish. It's an "unconfirmed report" that Beats Media fund terrorism. It's an "unconfirmed report" that YouEDM are actually the largest people trafficking organisation worldwide. It's "unconfirmed" that both of these portals joined forces to spread the Ebloa virus…. and to add insult to injury, they often say "By the way please subscribe to our Page so we can feed what we deem the uneducated masses more drivel". So called "Anonymous sources" also have no weight and must be questioned as a result for much of the same reasons.
Watford
The statement relating to Cameo Watford is not true. To set the record straight ,there were on-going negotiations with the landlord. The trading company was and is still in talks with the landlord and authorities to re open but only under viable licensing conditions. It is not simply a case of "rent not being paid" as the article states.
Nottingham / Leeds
Nottingham and Leeds venues were closed by Gatecrasher sometime ago as they were loss making venues. Anyone would have thought this news was old hat but I guess any blog needs as much information as it can in order to try and make an impression. Any business reserves the right to streamline their portfolio as the market dictates.
Ibiza
2014 has been a tough season for all venue's in Ibiza, not just Gatecrasher; it has been challenging to say the least, we have made some mistakes but we are in a much better position to deal with the challenges in 2015. When we set out with the Gatecrasher Ibiza project we like most promoters got caught up in competitively bidding on acts, artists and brands. As is the pattern, artist and brand fee's are becoming more and more inflated to the point that a lot of events become commercially unviable. Sadly some nights have just have not performed hence why we have had to make some changes to the programme. As venue operators and promoters we reserve the right to change our programme and concepts as the market dictates. This is common business practice. Of course people have been entitled to refunds for any pre-booked line ups and events that have changed as a result and we do our best to communicate this. For our up-to-date programme please refer to our Website or Facebook. Gatecrasher Ibiza remains open until September 2014 and we would like to thank all have been so far to the events in the summer of 2014. We will also be back in 2015 with new exciting news and events.
For the avoidance of any doubt, Gatecrasher Birmingham and Gatecrasher Ibiza both remain open for business. Gatecrasher works in the digital age and promotes free speech and opinion, however we do not support or condone any action that is damaging or libellous caused by false statements.
...*cough*
Phil_Dicko
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This is a really weird statement. In parts it does well to put a positive spin on some pretty negative stuff. For a moment, even I found myself thinking 'maybe they aren't so bad...'
Yet it's so so defensive and even antagonistic in places. Also no mention of the DJs and promoters who have criticized them of late. All the statements that disappeared under apparent duress.
Not exactly the finest PR you've ever seen...
Yet it's so so defensive and even antagonistic in places. Also no mention of the DJs and promoters who have criticized them of late. All the statements that disappeared under apparent duress.
Not exactly the finest PR you've ever seen...
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Ikoda
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This is a really weird statement. In parts it does well to put a positive spin on some pretty negative stuff. For a moment, even I found myself thinking 'maybe they aren't so bad...'
Yet it's so so defensive and even antagonistic in places. Also no mention of the DJs and promoters who have criticized them of late. All the statements that disappeared under apparently duress.
Not exactly the finest PR you've ever seen...
That was my thinking when I read it this morning. I found myself thinking maybe we have been hard on them. But, it doesn't excuse the way they've treated any of their staff, promoters, agents, DJs... Not even a mention of them. Or of selling the full lineups even after DJs have pulled out. This'll just add to the fire I think.
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