TV - Drugland Ibiza this thursday BBC2 (UK only)

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N8 said:
Aaaahhhh i love watching people like that and laughing at them :D

Funny yes, except hearing how they spend all their giro on the brown :evil:

This country is in for some hard years ahead i tell thee.
 
as you can probably imagine the tourist and political authorities here are absolutely 'ecstatic' about this programme being broadcast. In this article from today's diario de ibiza they argue against the claim that police are losing control with the statistics for the amount of drugs confiscated and dealers arrested (30% of whom are british). Others also say that enough damage has been done unjustly to the image of the island by the british press as the majority of british people now have totally the wrong image of the island.
the article.......
'El Consell Insular, Fomento del Turismo y la Asociación de Establecimientos de Ocio de Cala de Bou se han mostrado indignados con el anuncio de la emisión, hoy a las 21 horas, de un reportaje del canal británico BBC2 Wales, que asegura que el menudeo con drogas en la isla no sólo está a la orden del día, sino que las autoridades lo permiten y lo ocultan.
El conseller de Turismo, José Torres, aseguró ayer que formalizará una queja a nivel diplomático a la oficina turística británica y a la embajada de Gran Bretaña para que trasladen el malestar pitiuso a la propia BBC y tomen las medidas oportunas para «recuperar la buena imagen pública de la isla». Torres enviará datos sobre las actuaciones policiales y las detenciones realizadas que han supuesto «440.000 pastillas de éxtasis aprehendidas durante el año y más de 300 detenciones, un treinta por ciento de ellos de nacionalidad inglesa». Torres quiere dejar claro que «no es cierto que las autoridades no estén preocupadas por este tema y no se realicen actuaciones al respecto», y recordó que «el 60 por ciento de los visitantes que tenemos son familias».
Por su parte, el portavoz de la Asociación de Establecimientos de Ocio de Cala de Bou, Chris Langley, advirtió del perjuicio que puede provocar el reportaje cuando, según las encuestas, el 60 por ciento de los británicos rechaza visitar Eivissa por su «mala imagen». Asimismo, reclamó a la Administración que destine más recursos a erradicar las drogas, según dijo, «un grave problema para la isla que genera reportajes como este».
En el reportaje, titulado `Drugland Ibiza´, intervino el delegado del Gobierno, José Manuel Bar, pero desde los sectores políticos no se esperaba que el reportaje presentaría la isla como un lugar permisivo con las drogas.
El presidente de Fomento de Turismo de las Pitiüses, Josep Tur Olmo, lamentó este «mal regalo de Reyes» y apuntó que «los medios de comunicación británicos la tienen tomada con la isla», ya que el Reino Unido es un lugar donde «puede ser tan fácil conseguir drogas como en Eivissa».'
 
chewie_oo7 said:
translation?



;)

The Consell Insular, Promotion of the Tourism and the Cove Leisure Establishments Association of Bou they have been shown indignant with the announcement of the emission, today at 21 o'clock hours, of a report of the British channel BBC2 Wales, that assures that the menudeo with drugs in the island only is not to the order of business, but the authorities permit it and they hide it. The secretary of Tourism, José Towers, assured yesterday that will finalize a complaint to diplomatic level to the British tourist office and to the embassy of Great Britain so that they transfer the discomfort pitiuso to the own one BBC and they take the opportune measures for «to recover the good public image of the island». Towers will send data on the police actions and the detentions carried out that there they are supposed «440.000 tablets of ecstacy apprehended during the year and more than 300 detentions, thirty percent of them of English nationality». Towers wants to clarify that «is not certain that the authorities be not worried about this theme and not actions be carried out al respect», and recalled that «the 60 percent of the visitors that have are families». In turn, the spokesman of the Cove Leisure Establishments Association of Bou, Chris Langley, notified of the damage that can cause the report when, according to the surveys, the 60 percent of the British rejects to visit Eivissa by its «bad image». Likewise, it demanded to the Administration that destine more resources to eradicate the drugs, as said, «a serious problem for the island that generates reports as this». In the report, titled çDrugland Ibiza´, intervened the delegate of the Government, José Manuel Bar, but since the political sectors was not expected that the report would present the island as a permissive place with the drugs. The Tourism Promotion president of the Pitiüses, Josep Tur Elm, regretted this «badly gift of Kings» and aimed that «the British mass media have it taken with the island», since the United Kingdom is a place where «can be so easy to obtain drugs as in Eivissa

;)
 
Appreciate the Ibiza viewpoint, not really much you can say about that.

From my/most of our point of view these programmes are very wrong because they don't show the distinct differences between crack/smackheads/addicts and recreational users.

The people who go and party on ibiza have nothing in common with the junkies on the program last night. :twisted:










Apart from the legal issues!! ;)
 
to clarify....is there an episode purely featuring ibiza then? :( Does nobody ever want to give the island good press???!!!

I thought it was just a one off last night? I must say that i find these kind of programmes to be pretty distasteful and more often than not they are totally in-accurate.
 
.... wonder how many people we will recognise on tonight's programme - bound to be people who havent "protected" their identity!!! :?
 
stuie said:
yes, tonight. last night was the second in 3 part series.

mmmm. i think if i watch that i may end up putting my foot through the tv. No doubt it will paint a very one dimensional and hugely negative spin on the whole Ibiza thing....yet again putting back the work done by the local councils another few years.

....after they have done so much good work in the past 2-3 years!

Que more idiotic pre-conceived ideas that people will have about going there. :(
 
stuie said:
the people who go and party on ibiza have nothing in common with the junkies on the program last night. :twisted:

unhappily, the difference between party people and junkies is not that glaringly obvious to the hundreds of thousands of people who no longer want to come to the island because of it's image. secondly the main problem of drug abuse is not so much the users ( who are possibly law abiding citizens in every other way) but the dealers who are criminals and involved in all sorts of nasty business - violence, international terrorism - remember the madrid bombings?
 
stephen said:
unhappily, the difference between party people and junkies is not that glaringly obvious to the hundreds of thousands of people who no longer want to come to the island because of it's image. secondly the main problem of drug abuse is not so much the users ( who are possibly law abiding citizens in every other way) but the dealers who are criminals and involved in all sorts of nasty business - violence, international terrorism - remember the madrid bombings?

i understand all this stephen and yes, remember the bombings too.

just inputting the discussion with my viewpoint. i'm not an addict of any kind, i'm always respectful to the island and its residents, the hotelliers and ALL other holidaymakers but as far as the programme makers are concerned I may as well swap my annual trip to the island with sitting in a bedsit in manchester jacking up.

we all know the perception of the island is incorrect and the press is to blame for this. my parents usually visit the island twice a year and last year even went on a day out to san antonio and they are of the opinion the only thing damaging the island is the negative press...

which makes you wonder why the BBC were granted access to the CCTV monitoring station, able to conduct an interview with Juan Pantalioni and the Ibiza customs staff. what is worse apparently Juan P has said how bad the situation is and how the CCTV doesnt work most of the time etc.
 
S Express said:
stuie said:
yes, tonight. last night was the second in 3 part series.

mmmm. i think if i watch that i may end up putting my foot through the tv. No doubt it will paint a very one dimensional and hugely negative spin on the whole Ibiza thing....yet again putting back the work done by the local councils another few years.

....after they have done so much good work in the past 2-3 years!

Que more idiotic pre-conceived ideas that people will have about going there. :(

Actually, most people who've watched the programs and the decent press has proclaimed them to be the most accurate, non judgemental, unbiassed and well researched programs about drugs that have ever been made.

The only thing they have shown is the truth, no spin, no sensationalism, no jumping to conclusions.

If they Ibiza one shows there is a big problem with drugs on the island, and customs dont have the resources to solve it, is that a bad thing?

Are you afraid of the truth?
 
Each of the 3 programs is meant to be totally seperate.

The one about london had nothig to do with the one about the smack/crackheads in the Manchester estates, and the Ibiza one is totally seperate as well.

Each one is just showing one paricular area of drug use/dealing and no attempt has been made to link any of the programs.
 
It may be best to discuss this tomorrow after we've all seen it.

Just hope i remember cos i usually end up doing something and forget.

Can't set the VCR either cos we don't have one anymore :oops:
 
Lets just hope the programme does not paint too bad a picture of ibiza! People will still go to manc and london after watchin the programmes....like wise people will still visit ibiza!

Fingers crossed i'm not in the back ground of any of the video footage from clubs etc :oops: :roll:
 
Love Groover said:
Fingers crossed i'm not in the back ground of any of the video footage from clubs etc :oops: :roll:

I spend my time avoiding having my photo taken or anyone with a camera whilst in Ibiza clubbing etc. - last thing I want is my face plastered on screen..... just in case.... :?
 
IBIZA OUTRAGE OVER BBC DOCUMENTARY
THE Ibizan tourist industry and the Council of Ibiza yesterday expressed its indignation over a BBC Wales documentary which is to be shown this evening.
In the documentary, the island's drug trade is apparently described as being out of control and the authorities accused of trying to cover it up.
Spokesperson for the Cala Bou Tourist Association, Chris Langley, warned that the documentary could have a damaging effect on the island when 60 percent of Britons already opt against holidaying in Ibiza because of its “bad image.” He called on the island authorities yesterday to put more effort into stamping out drugs “which is causing problems not only on the island but also providing material for documentaries of this type.” Ibiza Councillor for Tourism, Josep Torres, has made an official complaint to the British Tourist Board and the Embassy in Madrid asking them to express the island's outrage and anger to the BCC and that steps are taken “to help improve the island's image.” Tonight's documentary is called “Drugland Ibiza” and features an interview with the central government delegate José Manuel Bar.
But none of the political parties expected the documentary to present the island as a drug paradise.
Torres said yesterday that 60 percent of the 2.2 million tourists who visit the island every year are families and said the documentary “does not show Ibiza in a true light.”


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I went to the trouble of spending a whole day filming for a TV program in Ibiza once....and they never even showed it because my friends and i were too badly behaved :(
 
N8 said:
Are you afraid of the truth?


i don't think anybody in ibiza is afraid of the truth. the truth is of course that ibiza has only a small proportion of drug taking visitors amongst the dwindling tourist masses who visit every year. i suspect that as before the truth will be distorted by the tv programme and even less people will want to come becasue of that.
i'm going to make a special effort to watch it tonight.
 
stephen said:
N8 said:
Are you afraid of the truth?


i don't think anybody in ibiza is afraid of the truth. the truth is of course that ibiza has only a small proportion of drug taking visitors amongst the dwindling tourist masses who visit every year. i suspect that as before the truth will be distorted by the tv programme and even less people will want to come becasue of that.
i'm going to make a special effort to watch it tonight.

Stephen - do the demographics overall show that there is more money made per head from say the general holidaying person say compared to someone like the average Spotlighter Clubber on a 2 week R&R?

What would you say is the split over a holiday period in Ibiza (ie May - Oct) for Clubber vs family holiday - in your personal opinion?
 
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