Take that on ITV tonight

[x-amount]

In other words, I always considered stuff like Take That as crap. Glad they never made it big in the States.

No. You had the directional Backstreet Boys and N*Sync.
What a lucky escape, eh?

 

[Morbyd]

No. You had the directional Backstreet Boys and N*Sync.
What a lucky escape, eh?

Actually, Backstreet Boys, while American, were first big in the UK and Europe. They were only promoted in the States beginning with the 2nd album. I moved abroad when the first album was out and had never heard of them until I saw them on British MTV via cable tv.

Blame us for N'Sync. You gave the world Busted

 

[x-amount]

I was a tad bit disappointed with the programme. Didn't tell me anything I didn't know already. Thought we'd get some proper juicy goss or seen some decent arguments.

On the contrary, I though it was an excellent bit of realistic tele, an accurate step back in time for a lot of us

Rather than a cheap tabloid-esque OMG WTF dish us another rumour to savage, which it so easily could have been.

 

[x-amount]

No. You had the directional Backstreet Boys and N*Sync.
What a lucky escape, eh?

Actually, Backstreet Boys, while American, were first big in the UK and Europe. They were only promoted in the States beginning with the 2nd album. I moved abroad when the first album was out and had never heard of them until I saw them on British MTV via cable tv.

Blame us for N'Sync. You gave the world Busted

Haha, oh, and I see we're American today.

Like it.

Anyway, why reel off shit UK artists? The US doesn't have more of the "cash cow" teeny bopper music, as there's not the general balance of wealth for kids to buy the lightweight bubblegum stuff.

Instead, you have RnB.

The defence rests.

 

[Sez]

I was a tad bit disappointed with the programme. Didn't tell me anything I didn't know already. Thought we'd get some proper juicy goss or seen some decent arguments.

On the contrary, I though it was an excellent bit of realistic tele, an accurate step back in time for a lot of us

Rather than a cheap tabloid-esque OMG WTF dish us another rumour to savage, which it so easily could have been.

Ok it didn't tell me anything new. All it told me was Nigel Martyn Smith worked them hard, Robbie started drinking & left the band. I already knew that. It was billed as a warts & all tale, them lifting the lid on what went on behind closed doors.

 

[x-amount]

I was a tad bit disappointed with the programme. Didn't tell me anything I didn't know already. Thought we'd get some proper juicy goss or seen some decent arguments.

On the contrary, I though it was an excellent bit of realistic tele, an accurate step back in time for a lot of us

Rather than a cheap tabloid-esque OMG WTF dish us another rumour to savage, which it so easily could have been.

Ok it didn't tell me anything new. All it told me was Nigel Martyn Smith worked them hard, Robbie started drinking & left the band. I already knew that. It was billed as a warts & all tale, them lifting the lid on what went on behind closed doors.

What could they have told you that you wouldn't dismiss with "yeah, but I knew that already..."?

I thought them admitting doing drugs was a bit much. I think you forget it was different back then, when them being crazy and wild meant having a no 2 grade haircut

 

[Morbyd]

The US doesn't have more of the "cash cow" teeny bopper music, as there's not the general balance of wealth for kids to buy the lightweight bubblegum stuff.

Instead, you have RnB.

The defence rests.

Ah, that's not true. There's plenty of crap teeny-bopper music in the US just as in the UK. For every Take That there was an N'Sync and so on and so forth. The UK has quite an R&B scene as well, though not as large as most of what's categorized as "R&B" is by black people and there's numerically a lot more of them in the US.

Tastes vary everywhere. I don't think it's any worse in the US than in the UK. (you get chavs, we get country music )

I think Take That's last album actually made an impact in the US, but I was abroad by then.

About 2/3 of the music I grew up on (and much of what I still listen to) was British. Though sadly, I dont' see many interesting rock bands like in the UK's 70s-80s and US 90s emerging these days anywhere.

 

[puppylover]

I was a tad bit disappointed with the programme. Didn't tell me anything I didn't know already. Thought we'd get some proper juicy goss or seen some decent arguments.

On the contrary, I though it was an excellent bit of realistic tele, an accurate step back in time for a lot of us

Rather than a cheap tabloid-esque OMG WTF dish us another rumour to savage, which it so easily could have been.

Ok it didn't tell me anything new. All it told me was Nigel Martyn Smith worked them hard, Robbie started drinking & left the band. I already knew that. It was billed as a warts & all tale, them lifting the lid on what went on behind closed doors.

I didnt know that they had wanking competitions on their bus and that Robbie won.......

who'd have thought - teenage boys wanking eh?????

 

[Sez]

I was a tad bit disappointed with the programme. Didn't tell me anything I didn't know already. Thought we'd get some proper juicy goss or seen some decent arguments.

On the contrary, I though it was an excellent bit of realistic tele, an accurate step back in time for a lot of us

Rather than a cheap tabloid-esque OMG WTF dish us another rumour to savage, which it so easily could have been.

Ok it didn't tell me anything new. All it told me was Nigel Martyn Smith worked them hard, Robbie started drinking & left the band. I already knew that. It was billed as a warts & all tale, them lifting the lid on what went on behind closed doors.

What could they have told you that you wouldn't dismiss with "yeah, but I knew that already..."?

I thought them admitting doing drugs was a bit much. I think you forget it was different back then, when them being crazy and wild meant having a no 2 grade haircut

Perhaps I was expecting them to tell stories, like there was this one time at band camp....!!! Things they got up on tour, the good laughs they had, the rows they had. Plus I already knew about the drugs

 

[Kang]

I wonder if Simon Cowell had been their manager would things have worked out differently for them?

 

[Morbyd]

I wonder if Simon Cowell had been their manager would things have worked out differently for them?

Do you mean Simon Cowell or Simon Fuller? If the latter, they might have made a movie like this one:

Fuller's groups get overexposed and burn out. Spice Girls, S-Club...

 

[Buckley]

Gary im not so sure about, theres something there about him that i cant place.

He was in Take That Mambs - that's where you've seen him before!

 

[Kang]

No, Simon Cowell of X-Factor fame.

I don't know how to post pictures on here otherwise I would show you.

Anyone able to get a pic up here?

 

[Morbyd]

No, Simon Cowell of X-Factor fame.

I don't know how to post pictures on here otherwise I would show you.

Anyone able to get a pic up here?

I know who Simon Cowell is. Thing is, he's not really much of a manager.. just a critic (edit: he was an a&r guy before he went all television). All the groups that made it out of Pop Idol and American Idol were managed by Fuller, not Cowell. Now Cowell has run off and done this X-Factor thing.

 

[Sez]

Doesn't Simon Cowell own/run BMG?

Pop Idol was Simon Fullers idea. All acts are signed to Cowells label BMG. I think.

 

[Morbyd]

Doesn't Simon Cowell own/run BMG?

He was an A&R guy for BMG after they bought a little label he part-owned. Signed up Westlife, to his credit (and our detriment!). He doesn't own or run BMG.

 

[Kang]

No, Simon Cowell of X-Factor fame.

I don't know how to post pictures on here otherwise I would show you.

Anyone able to get a pic up here?

I know who Simon Cowell is. Thing is, he's not really much of a manager.. just a critic (edit: he was an a&r guy before he went all television). All the groups that made it out of Pop Idol and American Idol were managed by Fuller, not Cowell. Now Cowell has run off and done this X-Factor thing.

25 million albums, over 70 top 30 records and 17 number 1 singles. Hardly just a "critic".

 

[x-amount]

No, Simon Cowell of X-Factor fame.

I don't know how to post pictures on here otherwise I would show you.

Anyone able to get a pic up here?

I know who Simon Cowell is. Thing is, he's not really much of a manager.. just a critic (edit: he was an a&r guy before he went all television). All the groups that made it out of Pop Idol and American Idol were managed by Fuller, not Cowell. Now Cowell has run off and done this X-Factor thing.

25 million albums, over 70 top 30 records and 17 number 1 singles. Hardly just a "critic".

Haha, it's like calling me an "armchair fan" of Funky House

 

[Morbyd]

25 million albums, over 70 top 30 records and 17 number 1 singles. Hardly just a "critic".

Maybe my understanding of the music industr is a little off.

A&R people sign artists to labels.
Managers...well.. manage their careers.

Fuller is a manager. Cowell is an A&R guy. Not sure who takes more credit for their joint successes (all the Idol winners on both sides) but I always thought it was Fuller since it was his format and he managed the career.

As for 25 million albums, I think Fuller's Spice Girls had that total alone.

 

[djchewie]

As for 25 million albums, I think Fuller's Spice Girls had that total alone.

fuller must have a very big living room to store that amount of albums