problem with flights,!!!

2H76 said:
It's rather, let's say, interesting, that Ryanair wants to restrict drinking at the airport....but not on it's own planes where it sells alcohol with a very high mark-up. Hmmm.

There has to be a balance found between allowing holiday makers the chance to relax with a beer and keeping the flight nice and peaceful. Heard various solutions, I like the idea of planes and airports being dry before mid-day as generally the busy resorts have flights there and back several times a day so you can choose; a more difficult to administer option would be to allow the gate staff to breathalyse anyone they think may cause problems (if they refuse = no flight) and have a fixed no-fly limit; after all they aren't supposed to board drunk passengers are they? The two-drinks rule won't work as if your mate doesn't drink that's four pints coming your way...just drink his!

However delays are caused even if someone isn't allowed on, as if they have hold baggage that has to be removed as well, meaning planes often miss their slot.

But I think unless stag/hen parties and the like tone down their boozing, many airports and flights will become dry.
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I couldn't agree less.

As others have said having a few beers at the airport and/or on the flight on the way to going on holiday is a ritual for some. I don't see why a few morons who can't control themselves are allowed to ruin that for the rest of us that can be responsible. Why should I not be allowed a beer at an airport because I've boarder a flight before midday?

For me its simple - give cabin crew the authority to make a judgement call on when someone is over the limit or being abusive and make the punishments harsh (e.g large fines, bans from air travel etc). It is the only way to get a message to people who are intent on ruining things for everyone else.
 
Sadly I had the displeasure of being on a flight that had to land in Majorca last week during the storms. Some minor trouble had already been brewing, few lads peacocking about up the aisles and causing arguments with other groups that sort of thing, but then when it was announced we couldn't land in Ibiza and we were off to Palma things went up a level.

a fight broke out during our descent in to Palma and the pilot came on the tannoy to say we were landing in 2mins, the Police had been called, and if they didn't sit down and shut up he would abort the landing. They shut up temporarily, and we did land, but once on the tarmac it kicked off again and two people were arrested and taken off the flight. We then not only had to wait for the Ibiza weather to clear, but for the two passengers suitcases to be taken from the hold, and the cabin to be searched for hand luggage.

you then had idiots going up to the stewardesses demanding to know why we couldn't just take straight off again, like the pilot could just bib his horn and overtake another plane on the taxiway! I'm not a killjoy, but landing in turbulence at an unscheduled airport with people stood up fighting and potentially causing another landing to be aborted wasn't fun at all.

Not convinced banning alcohol on sale in planes on its own is the answer though, as there is no way people had got that drunk off the miniatures and small cans they sell. It was all pre-drinks in the airport and other substances, both of which would need an airport ban and sniffer dogs at security to sort out.
 
I think passports should be like driving licenses. If you fail to behave responsibly you should get an endorsement on your passport. If you have multiple endorsements you should face a travel ban. Maybe that would encourage people not to be a throbber on a flight!
 
perrylgooner said:
I couldn't agree less.

As others have said having a few beers at the airport and/or on the flight on the way to going on holiday is a ritual for some. I don't see why a few morons who can't control themselves are allowed to ruin that for the rest of us that can be responsible. Why should I not be allowed a beer at an airport because I've boarder a flight before midday?

For me its simple - give cabin crew the authority to make a judgement call on when someone is over the limit or being abusive and make the punishments harsh (e.g large fines, bans from air travel etc). It is the only way to get a message to people who are intent on ruining things for everyone else.
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Cabin crew can already do this, even its by proxy with the pilot. Give them huge fines and travel bans and publicise it.
 
Tucker said:
I think passports should be like driving licenses. If you fail to behave responsibly you should get an endorsement on your passport. If you have multiple endorsements you should face a travel ban. Maybe that would encourage people not to be a throbber on a flight!
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That might happen under the ETIAS scheme which may be coming in shortly - where known criminals in the UK can be prevented from arriving in an EU country; if they get arrested and cautioned for being a knobhead on a plane (here or there) then it goes on their record and when the UK is (sadly IMO) out of the EU those countries can stop them entering. But the arrest has to be made in the first place and the offence has to carry a jail term - even if not sentenced.
Have a feeling that this ETIAS system won't apply to flights to/from the UK and the EU, maybe we will just use passports and join the EU queue as Switzerland does, simply due to the immense bureaucracy involved and the sheer volume of travel - and the Spanish want our money even from naughty boys and girls.
 
2H76 said:
That might happen under the ETIAS scheme which may be coming in shortly - where known criminals in the UK can be prevented from arriving in an EU country; if they get arrested and cautioned for being a knobhead on a plane (here or there) then it goes on their record and when the UK is (sadly IMO) out of the EU those countries can stop them entering. But the arrest has to be made in the first place and the offence has to carry a jail term - even if not sentenced.
Have a feeling that this ETIAS system won't apply to flights to/from the UK and the EU, maybe we will just use passports and join the EU queue as Switzerland does, simply due to the immense bureaucracy involved and the sheer volume of travel - and the Spanish want our money even from naughty boys and girls.
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All these rules in place yet known suspected terrorists travel with ease between countries...makes you wondered doesnt it o_O
 
Most flights i have been on from east mids to ibiza have been pretty horrific. I wish i could fly BA from Heathrow like I did last year every time as that was very pleasant....too expensive though so will have to put up with the hillbillies
 
I’ve given up on Jet2 this year because of the 2 drink limit, but I can understand why they have it. Taking scheduled flights with BA from Aberdeen via London. Expecting it to be a nicer travel experience.
 
I've mentioned this before as it happened on one of our flights a couple of years ago; the captain came out before take off and gave everyone a stern talk on not being a dick and what the consequences would be if you were. He warned the bar would not be a free for all and anyone abusing his staff or fellow passengers and he would land as soon as possible and kick the offenders off. Zero tolerance. I think this approach worked very well. He got a round of applause and the flight went smoothly. This plus perhaps a clear box to be ticked on booking to make yourself liable to any landing fees, legal costs etc and a period of time banned from flying again and maybe we can weed out the assholes of the skies. Speaking of which, anyone who diverts my flight in a few weeks time, I will personally tear them a new one.
 
IanF said:
I’ve given up on Jet2 this year because of the 2 drink limit, but I can understand why they have it. Taking scheduled flights with BA from Aberdeen via London. Expecting it to be a nicer travel experience.
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The issue starts in the terminal and airlines restrict consumption of own alcohol on board not to make money but to keep control

Airlines ban and take passengers to court if necessary

I know there is a campaign to sort this issue out as it is unfair on staff and other customers as it is a growing problem.
Alcohol + dehydration makes people very angry and disruptive
 
Sorry but, why this only arrive with British or Irish people?
I flew dozens of times from France, Switzerland or Mainland Spain to ibiza and never saw that.
please explain me. .
 
Life of Rye said:
The issue starts in the terminal and airlines restrict consumption of own alcohol on board not to make money but to keep control

Airlines ban and take passengers to court if necessary

I know there is a campaign to sort this issue out as it is unfair on staff and other customers as it is a growing problem.
Alcohol + dehydration makes people very angry and disruptive
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As usual it’s a minority that cause the problems. Nothing wrong with a pint in the terminal after you’ve checked in and sitting waiting. But there’s always some try to thrown back as much as they can. Flights should be comfortable and safe for everyone travelling, and there’s always a mixed age range and plenty kids on the flights to Ibiza. The flight crews always do a good job and no one deserves abuse in their job.

There was someone taken off a flight I had from Glasgow one morning at 7am. Deserved all they got and they had plenty warnings. I think we were lucky they were taken off before departure and not re-routed somewhere, I think we just had an hour delay because of it but that was annoying enough.

I saw the group the guy was with in Itica a couple of days later, and he was with them. I heard he just went over to easyJet and got the next flight. There should be a shared list banning these people from all airlines, maybe for 6 months rather than life though as a 6 month ban from all airlines would make them think differently next time. Do it again and get banned for life. A life ban for consuming alcohol in airports and onboard too if there was a way to enforce that.
 
jimmiz said:
Sorry but, why this only arrive with British or Irish people?
I flew dozens of times from France, Switzerland or Mainland Spain to ibiza and never saw that.
please explain me. .
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Yeah cos only English and Irish fly from those countries !!

Taring with the same brush come on !
 
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