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NakedAge said:
Hey maybe I could take some of the **** you take and open my mind hey? Then I can be as cool on the internet as you are and spend my precious time finding photos to insult people I'll never know and telling those with an opinion how lame they are for falling for all these God damn media, government, social LIES!!!! (That have been medically proven, but are none the less LIES) :), whilst I sit around and listen to honeymooners talk about how enlightened they are for taking pills and how wide their horizons are...

One trap or the other hey?

I bet you see me as some right wing ****ing republican with a corck srew hat, a Super Mario mustache and a pair of headphones at a childrens party?

Hehehehe you'd crack me up if you weren't so obvious.
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I don't think pills open your mind. But I do think people that are prepared to take them have an open mind and are willing to explore new experiences.
 
NakedAge said:
I bet you see me as some right wing ****ing republican with a corck srew hat, a Super Mario mustache and a pair of headphones at a childrens party?

Hehehehe you'd crack me up if you weren't so obvious.
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Never read this post.

If this is how someone with a supposed 'clear mind' rationalises then it is not a very good advertisment for being 'clean':lol::lol:
 
Olly said:
I think it is really hard for a lot of parents who've been ravers and now have kids - I have a lot of friends lates 30s/early 40s with children in London who still indulge when they have nights off / the babysitter in. There is no moral dilemma there in the same way you restrict your children's viewing of adult TV etc. [I do have a moral issue with people who indulge IN FRONT of young children, which I have seen and which I think is unacceptable] I think the sensible thing with the education is to to be upfront and say, x is legal and does/might do this, y is illegal and does/might do this, and then let them make their own choices, warning of the risks but also explaining that there are potential positives as well. If a teenager is quite shy and withdrawn and meets friends through rave culture - I think many enlightened parents would think that is far better and more socially acceptable than same kid curfewed in their bedroom being corrupted by violent porn...

+ let's never forget - telling teenagers what NOT to do is a historically proven way of ensuring they WILL do it!
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I Agree, drugs educations should offer the pros and cons rather than just saying that they are bad for you and will send you to a mental institution as I was told.
 
The issue with being ok with your off-spring doing anything to me as that it rarely is just one and once you've tried that you wanna have a go at this etc lol its easy for sensible people to say one is ok , but for hardcore party animals like myself who sometimes likes a night out to last for 3 days or more you see the bigger picture that you don't want the mini-me's to be involved in lol I just don't think its wise to declare undying support for drug use beyond saying that at best you'll have a wicked night
 
My final post on the subject.

I have never and would never;

a) Let my children see me drunk.

b) See me under the influence of recreationl drugs.

Both of which are very rare events at my age:oops:
 
Robbie G said:
I Agree, drugs educations should offer the pros and cons rather than just saying that they are bad for you and will send you to a mental institution as I was told.
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And the same goes for alcohol.. Kids should be educated about the things like if you get too p**sed you might wake up in some ugly blokes bed stuff like that not just DO NOT drink under the age of 18
 
WeLuvIbiza said:
My final post on the subject.

I have never and would never;

a) Let my children see me drunk.

b) See me under the influence of recreationl drugs.

Both of which are very rare events at my age:oops:
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They've seen me with terrible hangovers and very drunk while on holidays lol but its worked out good for me so far as my eldest daughter who is 14 still thinks alcohol is disgusting and never wants to be drunk... this is a bonus of 1 year so far as I started drinking flagans of cider when I was 13 lol
 
hauskitten said:
They've seen me with terrible hangovers and very drunk while on holidays lol but its worked out good for me so far as my eldest daughter who is 14 still thinks alcohol is disgusting and never wants to be drunk... this is a bonus of 1 year so far as I started drinking flagans of cider when I was 13 lol
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Up to the age of 17 (I was an innocent child) I was totally against alcohol/drugs/cigarettes. Not weed though :confused:

I still don't really like the effects of alcohol

I will never have children, so I don't need to worry about if they do or don't!
 
Sirens said:
Up to the age of 17 (I was an innocent child) I was totally against alcohol/drugs/cigarettes. Not weed though :confused:

I still don't really like the effects of alcohol

I will never have children, so I don't need to worry about if they do or don't!
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Lol funnily enough weed is the one thing that I'm afraid of... the very few times I've tried it I've had a full on whitey. The first time I ever tried I had 4 drags I fainted and knocked myself out on a metal bar then peed myself! I've tried a few times after that with similar consequences now even the smell makes me yak! I think at the age of 29 I began to understand and become at one with alcohol (lol). Up until then it was if I drink I will get absolutely smashed, then be sick, then be ill all of the next day.. thats why I didn't drink that often after about 24 it was more the other stuff but age has brought me wisdom and the ability to not get hungover. When I drink now I know the point I must not cross, when I'm drunk enough to try and breakdance but I won't be ill the next day or sick during the night. The feeling of euphoria when you think you can breakdance is one of the best feelings in the world :lol:
 
Dont you ever question yourself when it seems that Everyone (you got banned numerous times you said yourself) gets ennoyed by you? Do you read and fully comprehend when someone uses real arguments to refute your drivel? Dont you ever get tired of yourself?

NakedAge said:
Hey maybe I could take some of the **** you take and open my mind hey? Then I can be as cool on the internet as you are and spend my precious time finding photos to insult people I'll never know and telling those with an opinion how lame they are for falling for all these God damn media, government, social LIES!!!! (That have been medically proven, but are none the less LIES) :), whilst I sit around and listen to honeymooners talk about how enlightened they are for taking pills and how wide their horizons are...

One trap or the other hey?

I bet you see me as some right wing ****ing republican with a corck srew hat, a Super Mario mustache and a pair of headphones at a childrens party?

Hehehehe you'd crack me up if you weren't so obvious.
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NakedAge said:
.. Yeah.. Do you both still use it?
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No. We both went off it (about 5 years ago) because of the comedowns. That said, any meeting since has involved booze and/or weed and we're both currently into mephedrone (ecstasy-like legal high). Looking forward to visiting him in a week or so's time, because none of my mates up here do meph.
 
Ancient People said:
Dont you ever question yourself when it seems that Everyone (you got banned numerous times you said yourself) gets ennoyed by you? Do you read and fully comprehend when someone uses real arguments to refute your drivel? Dont you ever get tired of yourself?
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Don't use the term everyone please you are not speaking for me I think you both talk sheer crap ! haha !
 
NakedAge said:
No. .. It just wouldn't be as big a scene and would be alot friendlier. .. Lets face it. Alot of the friendships in dance music run out when the drugs do.
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Well, that's a crock of ****e for a start. Some of the people I most enjoy spending time with, both inside and outside clubs, are people i've met under the influence or later been under the influence with. I'm sure most who go clubbing regularly can testify to the same thing.

NakedAge said:
It's, sad that most people need drugs or alchahol to have a good time. It just shows how boring society has become.
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Replace the word "boring" with the phrase "emotionally unfulfilled" and for once, shock horror, I would agree with you. But it's not the drugs that are the problem. Modern society is increasingly loveless, sterile and lacking in emotional connection... the fact that people turn to clubbing and, in turn, drugs in search of some solace and friendship is not at all sinister or worrying. I think you've confused the problem with the attempted solution.

The film Human Traffic explains this view almost perfectly. And the reason Human Traffic is such a well loved film is that most clubbers subscribe to that view in principle.

The rest of what you've written is, once again, rambling nonesense.
 
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Phil_Dicko said:
Well, that's a crock of ****e for a start. Some of the people I most enjoy spending time with, both inside and outside clubs, are people i've met under the influence or later been under the influence with. I'm sure most who go clubbing regularly can testify to the same thing.



Replace the word "boring" with the phrase "emotionally unfulfilled" and for once, shock horror, I would agree with you. But it's not the drugs that are the problem. Modern society is increasingly loveless, sterile and lacking in emotional connection... the fact that people turn to clubbing and, in turn, drugs in search of some solace and friendship is not at all sinister or worrying. I think you've confused the problem with the attempted solution.

The film Human Traffic explains this view almost perfectly. And the reason Human Traffic is such a well loved film is that most clubbers subscribe to that view in principle.

The rest of what you've written is, once again, rambling nonesense.
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People turn to anything now days.

Human Traffic is a joke. I used to think like that as well. "Oh wow story of my life" .. **** that.

We do live in a loveless society, but come on.. Would you REALLY want to live in an emotional hell hole? Theres no love because people lost it because they were looking to drugs to find it and when they found out love and happiness has to be MADE, they all had a cry because hey it takes work and God forbid people should put an effort in to fulfil themselves.

Drugs aren't the problem, I agree. ... But they're not the solution. The solution is, how you said, fulfilment. By taking drugs out of clubs, people might find fulfillment in clubs legitimately. .. Like, some people might find it in writing or art or sport or, dance music. But, they don't need drugs to be any of those things.
Thus, people need to go out and try things and do ****. Like, they need to be less boring. .. Everyone expects everything to be done for them now days. People go out, the expect the crowd to be there when they get there. They expect the drugs to make them happy and entertain their night. It's, bad. Its in everything.. Tv is so much ****ter than it used to be. As are movies, music, everything.
 
Ancient People said:
Dont you ever question yourself when it seems that Everyone (you got banned numerous times you said yourself) gets ennoyed by you? Do you read and fully comprehend when someone uses real arguments to refute your drivel? Dont you ever get tired of yourself?
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You know what. I have asked myself "What have I said wrong?" and yeah, I even feel like I'm saying the same **** every time. But I'm passionate about topics like these because they're close to me, and I have an opinion and a right to express it. People have a right to theirs also and I respect that, but, there's far too many people who will sit there and say "You never accept anyone elses view" simply because I don't agree with theirs.

People don't want to have discussions. They're afraid of big lumps of words and then act like they know and understand everything that has been said when half the time they haven't read it because they allready assume it's bull**** because THEY haven't written it. Little do they know that inside might be an interesting discussion.

On the internet, I am hard to get along with, fine. On the internet it's just text. In real life, if your ever unlucky enough to know me, you'll have some very interesting conversations, even if they are about the most stupid of things.

Basically, I know I'm shooting myself in the foot every time I come onto the internet, I know its damaging my image as a Dj and I know the world thinks badly of me for it, but, some people read my **** and agree. They don't speak up because they don't need to. I don't need people to stick up for me on the internet, and I don't have to explain the causes for my arguements to strangers.
I do what I do, I say what I say because those are my beliefs and views. I am fortunate in that I turn to reality to escape the internet, not vice versa. I say what I say because I'm lucky enough to have enough security in my life to be able to say those things and reap the consequences of the backlashes. I can make things hard for myself by being outspoken and still find strength with in to bounce back and stick to my guns.

:) better that than to be just another 2 line internet Dj I think :)
 
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