Is Vinyl dead?
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Bear in mind that in Ibiza you are probably going to be watching DJ's who have travelled there from over seas, and taking boxes of vinyl abroad is a pain in the arse. Not that this is the only reason they would use CDs but it's certainly a contributing factor. Aren't most of Circoloco's residents local? So much easier for them to use vinyl...... just a thought.
Anyway I believe vinyl will never totally die. I love playing with vinyl.
Anyway I believe vinyl will never totally die. I love playing with vinyl.
gingerfreak
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Got a BCD3000, with Traktor. Pretty good, although if you're used to the solidity of Technics decks you'll find it pretty plastic.
The main downside/upside to the download revolution is that tracks are no longer the rare beasts they used to be, and the skills hunting them down are not in as much demand. Add high piracy rates to that and you start to get homogenous sets all playing the latest beats they day before they're released. Which I suppose allows the better djs to come to the fore.
Vive la revolution!
The main downside/upside to the download revolution is that tracks are no longer the rare beasts they used to be, and the skills hunting them down are not in as much demand. Add high piracy rates to that and you start to get homogenous sets all playing the latest beats they day before they're released. Which I suppose allows the better djs to come to the fore.
Vive la revolution!
progressive grooves
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vinyl is not dead but the digital medias convenience , price and instant worldwide distribution make it an obvious choice !
talkderby2me
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In Chicago USA vinyl is thriving. though digital is as above and allows easy homebrew creations. and my local bestbuy doesn't sell a vinyl press for $39.
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I like the fact I can donwload and play the latest tunes all from my living room on a Sunday afternoon. It prides me to know I have listened to loads of tunes each week and have bought what I consider the best of the bunch (some weeks I don't buy anything). It then amazes me, as you say, that I hear many DJ's then playing homogenous sets as I sometimes spot 1 or 2 tunes I have bought.
Digital DJ's are here to stay. vinyl is not dead but it is dying.
VDJ and the Mk2 look like toys but don't let this fool you. VDJ has the best engine in it and if you buy the full Pro version you get free upgrades for life.
It also has a large user community that make extra's and add-ons that are freely available.
The Numark software and hardware is just a branded copy of VDJ.
Keep Spinning - Keep Clicking
So its bad when u hear a dj play tunes you have?
No not at all. I like to hear my favs being played just wish more of them were.
I only really look at a couple of forums and 1 of them is for Virtual DJ. I reckon a lot of guys who play on VDJ Radio just look at each others play list and thats what they buy.
I'd rather listen to a load of 1.5 min samples then buy the ones I think have what it takes and suit my style (not that I have much).
My November mix http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0MKTKON5 (Instant Download) as an example has tunes I've never heard played but I think there are some good one's in there. Ultra and Hoxtons being most well known although the Ultra Nate reprise is something special in my opinion.
Have a listen and let me know what you think. I'd be interested in what you have to say
1. PIANOMATTO_-_Carillon_(Fun_version)
2. CANDY_APPLE_feat_JON_BANFIELD_-_Buttercup_(Candy_dub)
3. ULTRA_NATE_-_Free_(M+S_Epic_reprise_mix)
4. WIZZ,_Alec_-_Drummin'_(H2O_remix)
4. BLAZE_-_My_Beat_(SUMO_rebounce)
5. MAHJONG_D'LAYNA_-_So_Thankful_(Federico_Conti_dub)
5. PANDA,_David_-_Stepping_Out_(Carl_Ryden_remix)
5. HOXTON_WHORES_-_Friday_Saturday_Love_(vocal_club_mix)
7. SECRET_SERVICE_-_Shy_Girl
8. M_&_F_-_Mass_(main_mix)
9. The Nighttrain (D.O.N.S. meets DBN In On Board Remix)
10. REBUS_-_Cruel_(Fonzerelli_remix)
Enjoy and leave comments please
DrChidd
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Check this thread in 5 years
And you will see how wrong you were to believe vinyl has a future. There will always be some purists who continue to use the plastic but the rest of us will be enjoying the convenience of digital music.
As a working DJ who used to carry boxes of vinyl around with me to gigs i can honestly say that I do not miss the weight of those boxes and I can now take 1000's of tunes out with me whereas previously I could only carry 200 !
We should all be interested in the future as that's where we will live the rest of our lives.
I hope this debate continues.
And you will see how wrong you were to believe vinyl has a future. There will always be some purists who continue to use the plastic but the rest of us will be enjoying the convenience of digital music.
As a working DJ who used to carry boxes of vinyl around with me to gigs i can honestly say that I do not miss the weight of those boxes and I can now take 1000's of tunes out with me whereas previously I could only carry 200 !
We should all be interested in the future as that's where we will live the rest of our lives.
I hope this debate continues.
What debate? As you said we are now looking to the future. Purist can carry about vinly if they want but I doubt within 2 years if any clubs will have decks.
Klubbhead-USA
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I'm officially convinced vinyl's dead...
However, I also think that playing on any kind CDJ's sucks...I'm not a fan of digital at ALL....even though i'm forced to convert nowadays to keep up with the latest tunes.
However, I also think that playing on any kind CDJ's sucks...I'm not a fan of digital at ALL....even though i'm forced to convert nowadays to keep up with the latest tunes.
I don't even bother with CDJ's. Laptop, mixer, software and hard drive full of tunes.
LET ME SHOW YOU HOW..
The essense of DJing for me is in having 2 decks and a mixer. I feel detatched from the music even using CDJ's. ( I now use Serato Scratch Live with my Technics 1210s), so I'm all for going digital but taking away decks from the set up is something I'd never even consider.
For me anyway, the essense of DJ'ing is having people enjoy themselves.
I mainly play for friends and occasional club night and having 2 kids running about means the less room I take up the better (so the wife says). It's just easier and a whole lot cheaper for me to operate this way.
Klubbhead-USA
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see, heres my whole thing....
With vinyl, tracks are compressed to a certain degree to where the sound floor difference between any two given tracks is negligible (which can then be fine tuned with a few tweaks of the mixer)...
With digital, most tracks that are released are compressed BEYOND to where they need to be, and pushed blatantley loud for no apparent reason, so you wind up with all of these other extra high frequencies in your songs which IMO make them sound like complete ass.
Also, As a breaks DJ and turntablist, scratching, and manipulating plain vinyl for effects is WAY easier than using a CDJ to do the same. I really think clubs should adopt a hybrid approach to Dj'ing of the future....2 1200's, 2 CD'js, and a house mixer. This way everyones happy, and no ones left out.
Theres so much more I want to say on this subject but for now thats it. I have to go eat.
With vinyl, tracks are compressed to a certain degree to where the sound floor difference between any two given tracks is negligible (which can then be fine tuned with a few tweaks of the mixer)...
With digital, most tracks that are released are compressed BEYOND to where they need to be, and pushed blatantley loud for no apparent reason, so you wind up with all of these other extra high frequencies in your songs which IMO make them sound like complete ass.
Also, As a breaks DJ and turntablist, scratching, and manipulating plain vinyl for effects is WAY easier than using a CDJ to do the same. I really think clubs should adopt a hybrid approach to Dj'ing of the future....2 1200's, 2 CD'js, and a house mixer. This way everyones happy, and no ones left out.
Theres so much more I want to say on this subject but for now thats it. I have to go eat.
see, heres my whole thing....
With vinyl, tracks are compressed to a certain degree to where the sound floor difference between any two given tracks is negligible (which can then be fine tuned with a few tweaks of the mixer)...
With digital, most tracks that are released are compressed BEYOND to where they need to be, and pushed blatantley loud for no apparent reason, so you wind up with all of these other extra high frequencies in your songs which IMO make them sound like complete ass.
Also, As a breaks DJ and turntablist, scratching, and manipulating plain vinyl for effects is WAY easier than using a CDJ to do the same. I really think clubs should adopt a hybrid approach to Dj'ing of the future....2 1200's, 2 CD'js, and a house mixer. This way everyones happy, and no ones left out.
Theres so much more I want to say on this subject but for now thats it. I have to go eat.
I have to agree that sometimes the tunes I buy sound like sh!t but I tend to buy 192Kb mp3 then buy the Wav file if I need to. Going to playing in a local club 1st Feb so that will be the 1st real test for my digital setup. Still taking along a couple of records as backup.
I'll keep you informed how I get on
Interesting article:
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/commentary/listeningpost/2007/10/listeningpost_1029
Vinyl May Be Final Nail in CD's Coffin
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/commentary/listeningpost/2007/10/listeningpost_1029
Vinyl May Be Final Nail in CD's Coffin
I see what you are saying. But I'm pretty sure most people would rather watch a DJ that's playing a set of decks, rather than standing behind a laptop.
As I already had my 1210's and my laptop, all I had to do was buy Serato Scratch live and I have the best of both worlds, I still get to use my Technics 1210's but have the convienience of digital.
I suppose it's a debate that will go on and on and on, but at the end of the day all this choice we have nowadays can only be a good thing.