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cunninghamali said:
What does it mean then?
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it's an old subject, but because of this year's situation with covid it's gotten to a new level I feel.

basically, while in lots of other places worldwide no one cares that beach clubs work as a daytime party venue, here there's two currents that fight them: one, some of the residents (mainly 'prou' - the anti-tourism, anti-party platform) that think all beaches should be quiet and that's it and two, the clubs, which over the last two decades got more and more limited in opening hours, roof on top etc and then see that some place close to the beach can do open air parties no problem and thus get competition. I have a bit of understanding for both those approaches, but personally I also see what's happening elsewhere in the world (as in other beach clubs working as club venues) and genuinely think all parties should get to an agreement (which isn't gonna happen).

now this year with covid and the clubs closed, there's obviously much more pressure on the island council and that I understand. truly, if somewhere like benimussa park or cova santa can't open (just to put one example - and obviously I mean including abiding all covid-precaution rules), why can places like o beach, bora bora and blue marlin?

it's been a discussion for years but now the subject has gotten even hotter. and with covid, it seems the balearic government is really on a crusade to stop anything that could pose a threat to health...clubs, villa parties, and now the long-pending discussion as to what a beach club should actually be here on the balearics.

it's a pretty f*cked up situation. the only positive I'm seeing is that at the end of this season everyone and their dog will finally acknowledge that ibiza without clubs would have to shrink massively - it's exactly why playa d'en bossa and san antonio aren't busy right now.
 
CasaNegron said:
Any idea on how Mallorca is doing, as they are not as reliant on clubbers?
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well...mallorca is huge. and as ibiza, it has two areas that rely on nightlife (magalluf and el arenal). ibiza as such is doing OK right now - but as over in mallorca, the nightlife areas are suffering. it's logical. only difference is that in mallorca, due to the island's bigger size, the nightlife has never become as important as here on ibiza.
 
I love reading your informative posts Stivi.

All these sectors just need to get together and thrash it out. My personal opinion is the island will suffer as a whole if these premises aren't allowed to exist.

One of my personal hopes is Corona will show just how vital the music tourist is to the Island. Both can exist together, a balance just needs to exist between the two.
 
Ryan365 said:
I love reading your informative posts Stivi.

All these sectors just need to get together and thrash it out. My personal opinion is the island will suffer as a whole if these premises aren't allowed to exist.

One of my personal hopes is Corona will show just how vital the music tourist is to the Island. Both can exist together, a balance just needs to exist between the two.
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appreciate it thanks ;)

I agree with you it'd be good if everyone would work towards a common solution, but I have my doubts.

thing is - lots of important people (with that I mean business owners as well as politicans etc) are well aware of how much of a magnet clubbing is for ibiza, even though they don't openly admit it (because clubbing is sort of demonized here locally lately). but this year it'll simply be made evident to everyone's eye how ibiza looks and feels (emotionally and much more financially) without the nightlife.
 
I do understand where these locals are coming from in the sense the music side of things ran rampant for years.

In the ideal world it would be addressed simply by designating certain areas as music areas (pretty sure something like this did happen at one point with San An, PDB). If it was up to me the areas already with the history of attracting the music tourist would be allowed to continue. The rest of the island remains for the residents and the family sector.

So in my opinion in PDB, pago pago up to Ushuaia, At Salinas Sa Trinxa & Jockey, at Cala Jondal Blu Marlin, and at San An The Sunset Strip & the Westend. They should be allowed to exists, not without regulation of course. On the grand scheme of things that's really not a lot.
 
Nearly every tourist country has and needs nightlife. There are spots for it.

Nearly all in Spain
Bali
Thailand
Bulgaria
and so on

They know this in Ibz . They will never kill the nightlife industry. What they do is to change some areas : San An , PdB
They told it loud and clear , some time ago what they want and what they not want.
I personally think , they are proud to have such famous nightclubs with cool people.
They have no big problems with a typical Pacha or Amnesia clubber. No problems with beachbar guests , a little more problems with rich idiots who think they can do what they want.

Everything will be good. Next year everything is as before. You will celebrate in Pacha and DC10 and you can have drinks at Tantra.
Maybe some changes in San An ... a little flashback to the 80s maybe
 
I agree entirely. It will always exists but anyone who came in late 90s/early 2000s will 100% say the music side of things has slowly been chipped away. To be blunt the Island simply doesn't have that care free attitude it once had. You could argue there's now more rules than parties haha.
 
Ryan365 said:
I agree entirely. It will always exists but anyone who came in late 90s/early 2000s will 100% say the music side of things has slowly been chipped away. To be blunt the Island simply doesn't have that care free attitude it once had. You could argue there's now more rules than parties haha.
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true, but you could also say we're now paying the price for ignoring all existent and non-existent rules during quite a period.
 
Ryan365 said:
I agree entirely. It will always exists but anyone who came in late 90s/early 2000s will 100% say the music side of things has slowly been chipped away. To be blunt the Island simply doesn't have that care free attitude it once had. You could argue there's now more rules than parties haha.
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Thats a little true. Dont remember if they are played such ultra commercial stuff in the 80s / 90s or early 20s at the big clubs.
Hi has good events , but it is not Space anymore. And there are some other examples.
Big clubs with music for big audiences . No problem : At normal times I find nice sounds which are my taste at every single day of the season. Hope there will not be too much Hip Hop and Reggeaton events. Better New Wave and so on. Dancing on the Cure , Joy Division and New Order : A dream
 
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stivi said:
true, but you could also say we're now paying the price for ignoring all existent and non-existent rules during quite a period.
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Oh yea I 100% agree with this. There was a point when everyone man and his dog wanted to turn their venue in to the next big thing. Think Plan B, etc.

I completely understand where the locals are coming from. Things did get crazy but now I think everyone involved just need to sit down and work out how the hell we can all exist together.

I come here to dance and relax, and this island is big enough for both.
 
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