ibiza 2019 observations

matter said:
Jackmaster will be back on the island soon...
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bad taste joke IMO and he's publicly apologised more than once and said he's been working on things. I think he's really earned another chance and believe these remarks should stop. personal opinion only though.
 
Gingersolstice said:
I frequented Fabric for 10 years, I never found it bad at all compared to a "normal" night club. But that might say more about me than Fabric!
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I would expect toxic male behaviour of harassing women to be echoed somewhat in men being aggressive to other men in an establishment. As @Kim Wrong Un suggested, I could ask the girls, but I think most of us are capable of roughly gauging the vibe of a club and why most people are there!
 
stivi said:
bad taste joke IMO and he's publicly apologised more than once and said he's been working on things. I think he's really earned another chance and believe these remarks should stop. personal opinion only though.
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You’re telling me bad taste jokes should stop, yet you want someone who sexually assaults women to be allowed back.. ok
 
Johnny Vodka said:
I would expect toxic male behaviour of harassing women to be echoed somewhat in men being aggressive to other men in an establishment. As @Kim Wrong Un suggested, I could ask the girls, but I think most of us are capable of roughly gauging the vibe of a club and why most people are there!
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When it comes down to the nitty gritty, it shouldn't be acceptable in any club. Sad thing is it happens all the time in all industries, but is prevalent in the entertainment industry. It shouldn't matter if someone is drunk or on narcotics. Just keep your hands to yourself, its not an excuse. I for one am glad it's been brought to the for front, but girls still have to be a bit savvy and aware to gauge the situation as you say.
 
Nobbie Q said:
Sorry but I also see those same good looking girls making themselves available and wanting to be hit on as well. Guys are only considered to be harassing when they're not interested in them, I mean, it's up to the guy to figure out the signals and make moves which isn't easy in a nightclub, it doesn't really work the other way around. Obviously there's a limit to how much a guy is bugging the girl, but how is security gonna determine that? Are they gonna analyze every single interaction? Having security butt in to stop guys only feeds into the incorrect notion that sex runs one way and hurts women too.

It's different with rave music I guess which isn't as sexualized as urban music. This is really about ppl being caught with with their techno dust on the floor! Lol
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What do girls 'making themselves available' look like?

There's a time and place. I am referring to this happening on the dance floor. If you're hanging out and chatting at the bar, smoking area, VIP, after party then it's a bit of different story. I'm not saying relentless creepery doesn't exist there too, but its a very different environment and much more visible when guys (and girls) are being dicks.
 
stivi said:
bad taste joke IMO and he's publicly apologised more than once and said he's been working on things. I think he's really earned another chance and believe these remarks should stop. personal opinion only though.
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Just a joke. There's a big difference between making a joke about something that happened and making prejudiced decisions against the guy. If he has truly owned his actions, then he is going to have to make peace with the fact that people will remember what he did, and make their own minds up on the man he is, or says he is, now and in the future. I hope the guy follows a path of redemption and it's all but forgotten, but it takes time.
 
Nobbie Q said:
Sorry but I also see those same good looking girls making themselves available and wanting to be hit on as well. Guys are only considered to be harassing when they're not interested in them, I mean, it's up to the guy to figure out the signals and make moves which isn't easy in a nightclub, it doesn't really work the other way around. Obviously there's a limit to how much a guy is bugging the girl, but how is security gonna determine that? Are they gonna analyze every single interaction? Having security butt in to stop guys only feeds into the incorrect notion that sex runs one way and hurts women too.

It's different with rave music I guess which isn't as sexualized as urban music. This is really about ppl being caught with with their techno dust on the floor! Lol
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Just reread this bit 'Having security butt in to stop guys only feeds into the incorrect notion that sex runs one way and hurts women too.'

It's hard to believe anyone could be so naive in this day and age. Yes sex works both ways, but how would you like it if Shaquille O'Neal's ugly twin spent 5 minutes trying to convince you to come home with him whilst his jaw was halfway between the dj booth and the taxi rank. And then when you convince him to leave, another guy, also one and half times your size decides it's his turn to try his charm. Repeat....... all night.......

You just dressed up nice for a good night with your friends and your favourite DJ.
 
The thing I described with the bouncers was in Pacha at Väths night ,last year. Lots of time I go go to Heart : Never seen this
there. Totally different People , specially at Maktub or Saga. They are a Little snobbish , some People think ,but this is not true.
Same at Flowerpower : I know what People think here About this. The Music is sometimes a little ... arghhh , I know. But there are People in good mood and nice spanish women .
 
perrylgooner said:
Yeah my exact thoughts were - if you’re sole purpose of going clubbing in Ibiza is pulling, then you’re not doing it right!

Obviously you can form great friendships and relationships with people you meet naturally at an event in a nightclub or an after hours, many of which people have on here!

My point was more if you’re coming to Ibiza viewing it was a “pulling holiday” with your sole purpose to be trying to pull in the major clubs, then for me you’ve picked the wrong destination!
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Agree so much. I come in Ibiza for music and party like there is no tomorrow, never I planed to come to Ibiza for pulling ladies (I can do this in Montreal so easyly). I once planed to come alone, by my self, but my GF was just not understand the point above...
 
I agree just so ppl don't think I'm some scumbag. Assuming you're coming for the rave scene like myself, the music, (MORE SPECIFICALLY CLOSING TIMES, SET TIMES, AND LINEUPS) is priority. Secondary is the pulling aspect aspect which is a bonus albeit a sweet bonus which is nice
 
Nobbie Q said:
(MORE SPECIFICALLY CLOSING TIMES, SET TIMES, AND LINEUPS) i
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Classic Nobbie.. oh and nobody wants to waste time trying to pull at Ibiza clubs.. one phone call and you can have a girl of any nationality at your door in 20 minutes and without having to buy a single drink or trying to convince some girls friends that you will get her home safely..? who wants that kinda hassle on holiday..
 
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