ibiza 2019 observations

perrylgooner said:
If you're going to Ibiza nightclubs trying to pull, you're doing it wrong IMO!
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I'm not sure I entirely agree on this.

I mean I get you, what you probably want to say is (unless I don't get it) that if pulling is your main point of coming to ibiza, then that's 'doing it wrong' (at least for most of us here I guess).

at the same time, I see lots and lots of people enjoying their clubbing - people who, at least in my eyes, are here for the right reasons, and they still end up meeting girls.

forum legend barbie met her husband in space.
I met my wife at cocoon afters.
and tons of other examples.

so I'm not sure it's completely wrong to think that you might pull while on holiday here.

thoughts?
 
stivi said:
I'm not sure I entirely agree on this.

I mean I get you, what you probably want to say is (unless I don't get it) that if pulling is your main point of coming to ibiza, then that's 'doing it wrong' (at least for most of us here I guess).

at the same time, I see lots and lots of people enjoying their clubbing - people who, at least in my eyes, are here for the right reasons, and they still end up meeting girls.

forum legend barbie met her husband in space.
I met my wife at cocoon afters.
and tons of other examples.

so I'm not sure it's completely wrong to think that you might pull while on holiday here.

thoughts?
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I think he means the general mentality of going out to pull every women in sight.

I totally agree that loads of people meet their wife's etc in clubs and after parties. But is that not more meeting someone special not "on the pull"?
 
Discoallman said:
I think he means the general mentality of going out to pull every women in sight.

I totally agree that loads of people meet their wife's etc in clubs and after parties. But is that not more meeting someone special not "on the pull"?
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Unless you're an amazingly fit bloke, chances are you might need to approach a good few ladies before anything positive happens. Just sayin' like - I gave up trying to pull in clubs ages ago.
 
I deffo am on the side of it being a good thing that security are tackling harassment more aggressively. Of course it’s alright to meet someone on a night out if it happens naturally but the kind of lecherous and creepy behaviour from men that you see in ‘top 40’ bars and clubs in England and elsewhere has no place in dance clubs (or anywhere really, but its particularly distasteful in places where people go primarily for the music). a lot of girls I know originally started going to raves to get away from that sort of behaviour from men, and to hear it start to creep in to that kind of environment is a great shame and must kind of of ruin the atmosphere.
 
Crawleytown said:
a lot of girls I know originally started going to raves to get away from that sort of behaviour from men, and to hear it start to creep in to that kind of environment is a great shame and must kind of of ruin the atmosphere.
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It's to do with the drugs, probably. When it were raves, people were mainly taking MD/pills, but now 'proper' clubs have as many people on booze and cocaine as MD. Also clubbing at places like Hi and Pacha is tied more to an image of glamour/spending/bling/impressing than it is just getting messy. Some of the nights Hi and Pacha put on aren't that different from a bad Saturday night in a typical townie club (mainstream dance music with the pressure to be a 'VIP'), so you're going to expect similar behaviour from the clientele (IMO).
 
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As long as its consensual agreement for all parties, who cares where the "meeting" happens.
Personally I find ignoring and looking/acting not interested does the trick. Failing that moving away. Or just a straight NO. If it goes past that point then I'd call it harassment especially if they are touching you, long ago I would have given the look of death and a quick kick to the shin, it sends a clear message. Not sure I would do this anymore though!
Bouncers will be looking out for more than harassment when crossing the dance floor annoying as it is.
And girls can be just as bad in some cases, I don't say that lightly, I've seen it.
 
john454 said:
Without trying to sound like an elitist snob, if you have ever had the good fortune to go out with a group of good looking women, you will experience first hand how relentless the harassment is in certain places (the worst, by miles in my experience, is Hi). It definitely doesn't happen everywhere and obviously, there is a balance to be struck, but it is rarely just one guy trying his luck. All night you end up with lecherous dudes hanging around, waiting to make their move making it, being told no, then still hanging around. All whilst other guys do the same as if the girls are prey to be stalked. As the night goes on and dudes get more sideways, it only gets weirder.
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I don't get harassed, where can I get harrassed??????
 
stivi said:
I'm not sure I entirely agree on this.

I mean I get you, what you probably want to say is (unless I don't get it) that if pulling is your main point of coming to ibiza, then that's 'doing it wrong' (at least for most of us here I guess).

at the same time, I see lots and lots of people enjoying their clubbing - people who, at least in my eyes, are here for the right reasons, and they still end up meeting girls.

forum legend barbie met her husband in space.
I met my wife at cocoon afters.
and tons of other examples.

so I'm not sure it's completely wrong to think that you might pull while on holiday here.

thoughts?
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I agree... Part of the clubbing experience can or may be pulling... Meeting a guy or girl in clubs can be fun... Better meeting in person I think than on the dating apps that people tend to do nowa days.... I have seen guys and had ex boyfriends that I met clubbing in ibiza
 
Kim Wrong Un said:
Type of club/consumption irrelevant here imo but we can always rely on JV to bring drugs into any thread :lol:
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Weren't you complaining about the vibe urban/grime nights bring? The type of music and drugs undoubtedly change the vibe of a night. Not to say there's never any trouble/hassle at underground house/techno nights, but I know I'd rather be at one of those than a typical town club night (or the equivalent in Ibiza).
 
Johnny Vodka said:
Weren't you complaining about the vibe urban/grime nights bring? The type of music and drugs undoubtedly change the vibe of a night. Not to say there's never any trouble/hassle at underground house/techno nights, but I know I'd rather be at one of those than a typical town club night (or the equivalent in Ibiza).
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Fabric is notorious for creeps. It's why loadsa girls stopped going. Just cos people get luv'ed up doesn't mean everyone else in the room is.

We shouldn't be naive here...
 
stivi said:
I'm not sure I entirely agree on this.

I mean I get you, what you probably want to say is (unless I don't get it) that if pulling is your main point of coming to ibiza, then that's 'doing it wrong' (at least for most of us here I guess).

at the same time, I see lots and lots of people enjoying their clubbing - people who, at least in my eyes, are here for the right reasons, and they still end up meeting girls.

forum legend barbie met her husband in space.
I met my wife at cocoon afters.
and tons of other examples.

so I'm not sure it's completely wrong to think that you might pull while on holiday here.

thoughts?
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Yeah my exact thoughts were - if you’re sole purpose of going clubbing in Ibiza is pulling, then you’re not doing it right!

Obviously you can form great friendships and relationships with people you meet naturally at an event in a nightclub or an after hours, many of which people have on here!

My point was more if you’re coming to Ibiza viewing it was a “pulling holiday” with your sole purpose to be trying to pull in the major clubs, then for me you’ve picked the wrong destination!
 
Kim Wrong Un said:
Fabric is notorious for creeps. It's why loadsa girls stopped going. Just cos people get luv'ed up doesn't mean everyone else in the room is.

We shouldn't be naive here...
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I can't comment on Fabric as I've only been once, but when I used to go to The Arches people weren't mainly on the pull and I don't remember ever seeing a fight either.
 
Crawleytown said:
I deffo am on the side of it being a good thing that security are tackling harassment more aggressively. Of course it’s alright to meet someone on a night out if it happens naturally but the kind of lecherous and creepy behaviour from men that you see in ‘top 40’ bars and clubs in England and elsewhere has no place in dance clubs (or anywhere really, but its particularly distasteful in places where people go primarily for the music). a lot of girls I know originally started going to raves to get away from that sort of behaviour from men, and to hear it start to creep in to that kind of environment is a great shame and must kind of of ruin the atmosphere.
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Your right about it ruining the atmosphere, for girls and the partners.
 
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