Gordon Ramsay last night - poor little pig!

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Robder

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Did anyone see that abbatoir section???
VERY disturbing...it's a known fact that when hundreds of pigs are paraded through that some escape the electric shock procedure. So if the trauma of seeing all your mates torn to shreads isn't enough, some are being murdered alive.
No problems with eating meat here but the lack of respect and honour from where meat comes from is frankly disgusting.
Rant over.

(Expecting a torrent of defensive abuse from meat eaters now.)
 
I cried :lol:

Although I did find it quite humane, it was very quick! But I somehow don't believe that is normally like that :twisted:

Gordon Ramsey went sheet white 8O
 
i missed it for the second week in a row, rather not see how my animal farm big breakfast comes about 8O
 
Robder said:
Did anyone see that abbatoir section???
VERY disturbing...it's a known fact that when hundreds of pigs are paraded through that some escape the electric shock procedure. So if the trauma of seeing all your mates torn to shreads isn't enough, some are being murdered alive.
No problems with eating meat here but the lack of respect and honour from where meat comes from is frankly disgusting.
Rant over.

(Expecting a torrent of defensive abuse from meat eaters now.)
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and that was one of the "humane" slaughter houses!! I do admit to being big hypocrite on this, whilst i love a bacon sarnie or a nice pink fillet steak...I couldnt kill for myself I dont think?? How weak?? it was rather weird seeing that though.
 
jjinit said:
and that was one of the "humane" slaughter houses!! I do admit to being big hypocrite on this, whilst i love a bacon sarnie or a nice pink fillet steak...I couldnt kill for myself I dont think?? How weak?? it was rather weird seeing that though.
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Actually if you look at indigenous cultures and their approach to the whole process it's rather humbling.

I'm veeeerrrrry busy so can't go into details but those people have it sussed.

...and I'm so glad that people in this thread are seeing my point - I expected you all to jump down my throat. :D
 
Didn't see it - but I still think we as humans need to be careful about projecting our own emotions onto animals, which is a difficult thing not to do. But we should still work to kill and raise animals for food as humanely as possible (which actually doesn't always mean organic/free range etc. despite that being the general consensus)
 
Didn't see it.

Got it recorded but probably won't bother watching after what i've been told and reading here.

I'm a real wuss when it comes to animal suffering.

:cry:
 
There was no suffering or struggling. There was nothing shown that people aren't already aware of.

I cried because I cry at everything :lol:
 
zarbtron said:
projecting our own emotions onto animals
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Agreed but don't understand this bit...?

Does that mean that animals aren't worthy of human emotion?
...or that pigs don't feel things in the same way that we do?

They are reeeeally intelligent animals - of course they do! 8) 8O
 
Sirens said:
There was no suffering or struggling.
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Debatable.

Animals have a sense of intuition too...but I'll shut up here because this is taking the argument too far for some.

Just call me Morrissey. :lol:
 
Robder said:
Agreed but don't understand this bit...?

Does that mean that animals aren't worthy of human emotion?
...or that pigs don't feel things in the same way that we do?

They are reeeeally intelligent animals - of course they do! 8) 8O
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They just taste so damm good!
 
Robder said:
Agreed but don't understand this bit...?

Does that mean that animals aren't worthy of human emotion?
...or that pigs don't feel things in the same way that we do?

They are reeeeally intelligent animals - of course they do! 8) 8O
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it means that animals don't have the mental capacity of humans and thus should not be expected to have the cognitive abilities we do, such as memory and emotions, yet often people project how they would feel in that situation onto animals, which isn't correct.

Pigs don't feel things in the same way we do - it would be wrong to think that they did and it's also not particularly helpful for devising ways to farm them humanely as what is good for us would not necessarily be good for a pig.
 
I just couldn't watch it..... Took my hat off to Gordon, i'd be out cold on the floor....:oops: :lol:

As soon as he started bringing the pigs in....Zap..TV off....

My Dad used to work in an abertoir when he was 15, his job was to scoop (by hand) the nerves from the pigs blood, so the blood could be used for Black pudding..... I love Black pudding, though I wish I didn't know where it came from....
 
zarbtron said:
it means that animals don't have the mental capacity of humans and thus should not be expected to have the cognitive abilities we do, such as memory and emotions, yet often people project how they would feel in that situation onto animals, which isn't correct.

Pigs don't feel things in the same way we do - it would be wrong to think that they did and it's also not particularly helpful for devising ways to farm them humanely as what is good for us would not necessarily be good for a pig.
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In 350 B.C., Aristotle found evidence of emotion in animals. "Some are good-tempered, sluggish, and little prone to ferocity, as the ox; others are quick-tempered, ferocious, and unteachable, as the wild boar," he wrote in The History of Animals.

Today, the proposition that animals share some of the same feelings as man – actually experiencing pain, grief, and joy – is winning more advocates. And animal rights activists point to that concept as a concrete reason to end man’s exploitation of animals. The reformers are getting help from biologist Marc Bekoff, of the University of Colorado, who has compiled a new book, The Smile of the Dolphin, in which dozens of animal researchers explain why they believe animals have emotions. The book also has several dolphin recipes in the back pages).


OK, made the last bit up...:lol:
 
DJNC said:
I just couldn't watch it..... Took my hat off to Gordon, i'd be out cold on the floor....:oops: :lol:

As soon as he started bringing the pigs in....Zap..TV off....

My Dad used to work in an abertoir when he was 15, his job was to scoop (by hand) the nerves from the pigs blood, so the blood could be used for Black pudding..... I love Black pudding, though I wish I didn't know where it came from....
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I loved black pudding, haggis as a kid, then found out what it was 8O

I eat it now though... :)

Does anyone watch Tribe??? Now that is shocking, just hearing the cattle makes me quiver :cry: Could you drink their blood 8O
 
zarbtron said:
it means that animals don't have the mental capacity of humans and thus should not be expected to have the cognitive abilities we do, such as memory and emotions, yet often people project how they would feel in that situation onto animals, which isn't correct.

Pigs don't feel things in the same way we do - it would be wrong to think that they did and it's also not particularly helpful for devising ways to farm them humanely as what is good for us would not necessarily be good for a pig.
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Emotion is the most primal natural thing - simple in all its forms...therefore I think this is absolute rrrrrrrrubbish.

(and yes - agreed a gammon steak is bloody lovely! Miss them loads - yummy!)
 
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