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it's ilegal the dealing with drugs but is not forbidden to take drugs wich is not the same. And is not the same a criminal ofense than a administrative fine.
The problem is if you take drugs in public wich is forbbiden but is not a criminal ofense just an administrative fine. This means you can have drugs in your hotel room or at home. And you are not allowed to have drugs in the street , discos, restaurants, etc and if you are seen taking drugs in a public place you may have a fine but you wont go to prison or anything like that.
If they find you with a litle amount of drugs they would consider is for yourself but if they find you with a larger amount of drugs even so you going to use it for yourself or you friends they would take into consideration the amount of money you have with you, the situation, etc because they may think you are dealing with drugs and you may have problems because it is a criminal ofense.
The problem is if you take drugs in public wich is forbbiden but is not a criminal ofense just an administrative fine. This means you can have drugs in your hotel room or at home. And you are not allowed to have drugs in the street , discos, restaurants, etc and if you are seen taking drugs in a public place you may have a fine but you wont go to prison or anything like that.
If they find you with a litle amount of drugs they would consider is for yourself but if they find you with a larger amount of drugs even so you going to use it for yourself or you friends they would take into consideration the amount of money you have with you, the situation, etc because they may think you are dealing with drugs and you may have problems because it is a criminal ofense.
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mikkak said:
is this true!? So basicly, you are not allowed to sell/buy drugs, but you can have them for your personal use at home/hotel
, correct? Now what kind of laws do they have in spain ...And if so, what kind of amount drug(s) is considerated as for personal use?I don't know why you laugh so much? , you cannot sell them but ofcourse you can buy them for you own use. Who said you cannot buy them?
The diference with criminal law and administrative law ( one of a lot of diferences but in our matter this one is enough) is that criminal law can take you to jail and administrative law no.
This administrative fines for taking drugs not only is for consumers that take drugs in public it is also for disco, bar, restaurant owners, the administration can even put fines to discos for allowing people having drugs in their disco, the fine to the disco can even be to shut them the disco a certain time and ofcourse to pay a fine, this is why discos get in charge people don't take infront of everybody drugs even so they know that a lot of they clients do take them.
Why is forbidden to take drugs in public when consumtion is legal? to protect young people, litle boys etc. To prevent people having drugs, to avoid the promotion of people having drugs. That is legal to take drugs because is not reasonable to punish it doesn't mean they promote people having it. What you do at home is your problem unless you give drugs or you promote under age people to have drugs.
And this sort of laws are in lots of countrys of our area so is not so surprising, this laws that punish with criminal laws people who have drugs is typical of anglosaxon countries.
So it's true that there is a certain ilegal thing with taking drugs but just if you take them in public, even so you not doing a criminal ofense.
If you need to know anything else, say sou.
saludos
Realistic laws, what you get of punishing people having drugs? in fact punishing people for having drugs just push people to take them and is even I kind of moralistic thing to do. the only thing is punished with criminal law is to sell drugs, and is forbiden with administrative fines to take drugs in public to avoid people taking drugs in parcs or bars,etc
The diference with criminal law and administrative law ( one of a lot of diferences but in our matter this one is enough) is that criminal law can take you to jail and administrative law no.
This administrative fines for taking drugs not only is for consumers that take drugs in public it is also for disco, bar, restaurant owners, the administration can even put fines to discos for allowing people having drugs in their disco, the fine to the disco can even be to shut them the disco a certain time and ofcourse to pay a fine, this is why discos get in charge people don't take infront of everybody drugs even so they know that a lot of they clients do take them.
Why is forbidden to take drugs in public when consumtion is legal? to protect young people, litle boys etc. To prevent people having drugs, to avoid the promotion of people having drugs. That is legal to take drugs because is not reasonable to punish it doesn't mean they promote people having it. What you do at home is your problem unless you give drugs or you promote under age people to have drugs.
And this sort of laws are in lots of countrys of our area so is not so surprising, this laws that punish with criminal laws people who have drugs is typical of anglosaxon countries.
So it's true that there is a certain ilegal thing with taking drugs but just if you take them in public, even so you not doing a criminal ofense.
I don't know what is the amount they consider for personal use, I cannot say, but take a litle amount with you and it would be ok, don't take drugs in public places etc. What I know is that in some controls if they not sure of the amount the take you name and drug to mesure it and do you a report in case they suspect something. I also know that there is people that have been charged for trafic and it has been proved that it was for personal use. I suppose that sometimes if the amount is much more larger than what it looks reasonable for personal use you can have problems, in this case there is a litle line betwen trafic and own use. They take into consideration the amount of money etc
If you need to know anything else, say sou.
saludos
LetsBounce
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Ok lets clear this up once and for all, I basically live here in Spain and been a party person most of my life can tell you that ALL drugs are illegal in Spain no matter where you are! I've seen people get done in by the Guardia with just 1 pill on them and I've also seen someone with a couple of g's of charlie let off by the Guardia free because the Guardia wanted the charlie for himself.
I cannot stress enough that you should not act liberal about drugs in Spain what-so-ever! If you got gear keep it to yourself and your mates! Here in alot of raves they now have undercover Guardia walking around asking for pills and when they find the dealer they take him down right there infront of everyone, no questions asked and they're off to the station.
Just be sensible, and if your stopped for any reason be courteous and respectful and you just might get off the hook....
I cannot stress enough that you should not act liberal about drugs in Spain what-so-ever! If you got gear keep it to yourself and your mates! Here in alot of raves they now have undercover Guardia walking around asking for pills and when they find the dealer they take him down right there infront of everyone, no questions asked and they're off to the station.
Just be sensible, and if your stopped for any reason be courteous and respectful and you just might get off the hook....
I wont discuse this with you because is absolutly useless, ofcourse drugs are ilegal, ofcourse you cannot sell drugs but you don't go to prison for taking drugs or yes? This is what I am saying, read before you say anything. There is a big diference in what you are saying and what I am saying, I am making a diference because there is somepeople that think that is ilegal to take drugs
And ofcourse drugs are ilegal if they werent ilegal it wouldn't be ilegal to deal with drugs or yes? or have you heard that is ilegal to deal with bananas. If it wasn't ilegal all kind of drugs what would be the reason for punishing with criminal law the dealing. It is absolutly logical there are forbiden, what is not logical is that people who have drugs are comiting a crime.
So what is absolutly clear is that have drugs is not ilegal, If you don't see the diference with consume and trafic this is your t problem. The police controls are to avoid traffic and not to avoid people having drugs, if it was like you say peolple that goes to hospital because of drugs would go to prison, wich is not hapennig or yes?
And I live in Spain too and I know it for certain and not because I have see this and that like you, there is allways people who dare say the laws of a country are like that because the have seen this and that, without understan anything the seeing.
And ofcourse I not saying to anybody to be liberal about drugs, or you havent read that I am saying that is ilegal to take drugs in public?
Have you ever heard people being arrested because they was at home and they was taking drugs?
Chears.
And ofcourse drugs are ilegal if they werent ilegal it wouldn't be ilegal to deal with drugs or yes? or have you heard that is ilegal to deal with bananas. If it wasn't ilegal all kind of drugs what would be the reason for punishing with criminal law the dealing. It is absolutly logical there are forbiden, what is not logical is that people who have drugs are comiting a crime.
So what is absolutly clear is that have drugs is not ilegal, If you don't see the diference with consume and trafic this is your t problem. The police controls are to avoid traffic and not to avoid people having drugs, if it was like you say peolple that goes to hospital because of drugs would go to prison, wich is not hapennig or yes?
And I live in Spain too and I know it for certain and not because I have see this and that like you, there is allways people who dare say the laws of a country are like that because the have seen this and that, without understan anything the seeing.
And ofcourse I not saying to anybody to be liberal about drugs, or you havent read that I am saying that is ilegal to take drugs in public?
Have you ever heard people being arrested because they was at home and they was taking drugs?
Chears.
LetsBounce
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Mikkak my post was directed at you, I think we were both posting at the same time.....
Believe it or not at alot of controls especially near clubs or raves the will have the drug k-9's there and they are looking for people driving under the influence or with drugs on them.
If your stopped by a Guardia or Policia Nacional and your completely spangled out of your head the probability is that nothing will happen especially if you can speak spanish, but please keep in mind that the Spanish Police can do whatever they want in the sense that if your off your head and you give them some lip unintentionally (what we call "eschandole cojones" over here) they will take you in for being intoxicated in public if they feel like it and you won't be having a good time that night....
Believe it or not at alot of controls especially near clubs or raves the will have the drug k-9's there and they are looking for people driving under the influence or with drugs on them.
If your stopped by a Guardia or Policia Nacional and your completely spangled out of your head the probability is that nothing will happen especially if you can speak spanish, but please keep in mind that the Spanish Police can do whatever they want in the sense that if your off your head and you give them some lip unintentionally (what we call "eschandole cojones" over here) they will take you in for being intoxicated in public if they feel like it and you won't be having a good time that night....
Hi
Sorry for being so hard in my last post
What I am sayin is absolutly true with the law in my hand, and this I am saying is true.
Now a days driving with the influence of drugs or alcohol can be or a administrative fine and depending of the amount of drugs or alcohol in your blood a criminal ofense. Wich doesnt mean that you canot take drugs but what you cannot do is that for you rigth of taking drugs you are in the rigth to kill somebody with the car or yes? This is why now is absolutly forbidden to drive with the influence of alcohol and drugs.
And another thing is that there is some stuopid police that do what they want, that doesnt mean that all police or Guardia civil do the same, please is not rigth to generalise with police, because there is a lot of policeman that are very good and responsible with tey duty, but there is allways stupid people and ofcourse there is also policemen that are tocanarices, because there is some people that feels very well when there are police.
There is other ocassion that police wont let you go and they tell you to go with them to the station because they think you are dangerous for yourself or for another people and takes you to the station wich doesnt mean that you being arrested.
Sorry for my overreaction. Cheers.
LetsBounce
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mikkak said:
No problem Mkkak and I totaly agree! By the way, que eres espanol? me caba de da cuenta que eres de Mallorca....
LetsBounce
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mikkak said:Sí soy española , de Mallorca. Te he enviado un privado, con unas disculpas que ahora reiteraré en inglés:
Sorry for being so rude, sometimes I overreact, but not allways, sometimes I am a very nice girl
So you are from Gibraltad, mmmmmmmm, never been.
Besos.
Ah que guay tia! No pasa nada no te pura por de lo antes que no lo tome mal
Hello peeps, going back to the topic I have found some links that explain in good english what maybe I am incapable to explain with my english:
The first one is really good because compares the diferent laws about drug in Europe, read the part dedicated to Spain and consum.
http://lambda.eu.org/norml/norml-conf.html
Another one:
http://www.encod.org/rap-spain.htm
Cheers.
The first one is really good because compares the diferent laws about drug in Europe, read the part dedicated to Spain and consum.
http://lambda.eu.org/norml/norml-conf.html
Another one:
http://www.encod.org/rap-spain.htm
Cheers.