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on the upside, the amount of new music coming out in about a month or so (after all the DJs and producers aren't having any gigs anymore) should be absolutely mental!

also: for the first time in a long time, once the clubs eventually re-open, you will be able to hear a DJ set and maybe not know one single tune since they all had time to completely revamp their crates!!!
 
stivi said:
on the upside, the amount of new music coming out in about a month or so (after all the DJs and producers aren't having any gigs anymore) should be absolutely mental!

also: for the first time in a long time, once the clubs eventually re-open, you will be able to hear a DJ set and maybe not know one single tune since they all had time to completely revamp their crates!!!
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I agree, I am trying to stay positive. If the IMS goes ahead and is one of the first events....the atmosphere will be amazing
 
white_isle_calling said:
Correct. I hadn't implied otherwise. My post was merely a comment on human behaviour.

The core point still remains. Our country, any country, the continent, the world cannot grind to a halt until November.

The consequence of doing that would be far worse than "getting on with it".

After a few days, the novelty of being at home is going to wear off real fast. Most people can't work from home. Those that can't wont be able to survive off the £93 SSP a week. Self-employed will be forced to consider job seekers (or worse, universal credit) that means weeks deferred payment for a paltry sum. And that's just finances. We have to consider mental wellbeing too. You tried spending 24/7 cooped up with your family for days on end!!

After that initial - let's for argument sake say month's - period, people will be returning to work through necessity more than anything.

Hoteliers, airlines, bar staff, DJs, tour operators are all livelihoods too. You really think these professions are gonna stay at home whilst everybody else gets back to it? I expect there to be business casualties in the leisure and tourism sector as a result of this. Those that survive will be more determined to get back at it and pick things up. The same as mechanics, lawyers, shop assistants, vets......

Then let's consider the effect of weeks isolation on the human mindset

The quarantine period isnt going to feel like a holiday, it's going to be tortuous and stressful. Once we get back to work, we'll slog away initially and then after a few weeks we're going to be thinking "I deserve a holiday" Perfect, because guess what, it's suddenly become very affordable!

Look at it this way
Worst case: our worst fears are realised ie. 5% mortality rate. Amid the tradegy we're going to yearn for that piece of escapism. To forget our worries
Best case: little much changes and we carry on as we are
Ergo any scenario that falls between those to extremes, we're going to want to entertain ourselves. We're going to want to go to the cinema, go bowling, go to restaurants, meet up with friends. We're going to want to go clubbing and on holiday.

To think any differently is pretty grim
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For sure once this is out the way people will want to go in the hols they booked and festivals that got postponed... I am having a hard time at the moment, not because of this but family issues and I need ibiza more than ever before to have fun and have something look forward to... I know it sounds pretty sad but if I don't have that I will be gutted!
 
For the first time in years I've booked July instead of September, but then timing never has been a strong point of mine!
By then I would hope everything has settled somewhat, Spain appears to be ahead of where we in the UK are at on the curve and realistically none of the Mediterranean countries can afford the economic impact of shutting down tourism for a summer season.
Hopefully by the peak summer months there will be sufficient herd immunity to allow mass gatherings to resume and with sensible precautions and a shed load of hand sanitizer we will still have a fantastic time.
As a mate said yesterday I'd rather have it in benidorm than south shields.
 
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This should be extended to Europe I suppose, eventually.

Now, booking.com...will you follow?
 
andrewhowie22 said:
For the first time in years I've booked July instead of September, but then timing never has been a strong point of mine!
By then I would hope everything has settled somewhat, Spain appears to be ahead of where we in the UK are at on the curve and realistically none of the Mediterranean countries can afford the economic impact of shutting down tourism for a summer season.
Hopefully by the peak summer months there will be sufficient herd immunity to allow mass gatherings to resume and with sensible precautions and a shed load of hand sanitizer we will still have a fantastic time.
As a mate said yesterday I'd rather have it in benidorm than south shields.
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I have booked for July too and at least we have time on our side, hopefully with it getting hot in Spain in the next couple of months should kill the f***ing virus
 
ElrowLovers said:
Wow. Think they are the first to postpone until May. Cause most countries are having another decision point on the 31st of march. I know it will probably be extended till at least half April by then.
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well, berghain has cancelled everything until april 20th.

up to a certain extent I think it's almost easier for clubs and promoters if they now decide to cancel for 6 weeks straight rather than just for two. I'm fully aware of the economic consequences of this though.
 
madrid finally going on lockdown with bars and restaurants closing. IMO about four days too late really.
 
Tourist said:
yep, BCN too.. Mayor Colau has been really slow to act though, jeez

I feel bad for all the independent bars, clubs, family restaurants. loads are screwed :(
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I know shame for small businesses etc... I work for Expedia so we will be OK but my friend works for a tour Company In Italy and they have gone bankrupt due to this and have laid off 20 people
 
cunninghamali said:
I know shame for small businesses etc... I work for Expedia so we will be OK but my friend works for a tour Company In Italy and they have gone bankrupt due to this and have laid off 20 people
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oooh good to know I know someone at expedia :)

jokes aside, there will be an announcement at 14:30h on tv, I think it might be the spanish nationwide shutdown announcement...
 
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