cunninghamali
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It does have to change, I tell u on the bus going to ibiza town there was some land and never seen so many people's living in tents there was so sad!
Buying Property in Ibiza
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Browny
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I came across some people living in tents while i got lost on a jog in the ‘countryside’ of Siesta the other day. First time i’ve seen it personally
McRackin
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I suppose you refer to the land opposite the Mercadona in Sant Jordi, where there's plans to built the new quarters of the Guardia Civil... who don't want to be destinated to Ibiza because they can't afford to rent a place to live!
The number of new tents there increases daily, btw..
McRackin
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Una vecina de Ibiza, alucinada al ver un colchón para dormir dentro de un coche fúnebre
El vehículo se encontraba ubicado frente la piscina municipal de Sant Josep. La sorpresa saltó este lunes por la noche en Sant Josep cuando Vanessa, una vecina de la localidad, salía del bar de la piscina municipal de la localidad cuando se topó con un coche fúnebre 'camperizado'. «Mi pareja me...
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McRackin
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Awww, look... glamourous PdB in the back, how delightful!
Ibiza, an island of contrasts... now more than ever!
McRackin
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El inquilino de un piso turístico ilegal en Ibiza lanza agua a los vecinos para que le «dejen descansar»
El turista italiano se ha reído en redes de sabotear la fiesta de cumpleaños de unos adolescentes ibicencos. Inquilinos de un piso turístico en la calle Fermín Marí, en Vila, han querido hacer una «gracieta» y publicarla en redes sociales para divertirse un rato. Un italiano (Christian Spavone)...
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Padster
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What a dick! I hope he gets evicted but sadly I doubt it.
El inquilino de un piso turístico ilegal en Ibiza lanza agua a los vecinos para que le «dejen descansar»
El turista italiano se ha reído en redes de sabotear la fiesta de cumpleaños de unos adolescentes ibicencos. Inquilinos de un piso turístico en la calle Fermín Marí, en Vila, han querido hacer una «gracieta» y publicarla en redes sociales para divertirse un rato. Un italiano (Christian Spavone)...
james-king
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What are the requirements for accessing the Secure Rental program launched today? - La Voz De Ibiza
The initiative promoted by the President of the Government, Marga Prohens, seeks to capture empty or unused residential properties of small owners in Mallorca, Menorca, Ibiza and Formentera to offer them to residents at a price below the market price.
lavozdeibiza.com
tclubber
Active Member
Interesting. What's the advantage for the owners, compared to renting out at market price? Or does the government subsidize the rent difference?What are the requirements for accessing the Secure Rental program launched today? - La Voz De Ibiza
The initiative promoted by the President of the Government, Marga Prohens, seeks to capture empty or unused residential properties of small owners in Mallorca, Menorca, Ibiza and Formentera to offer them to residents at a price below the market price.
McRackin
Super Moderator
The luxury leaves, the shanty towns stay...
www.diariodeibiza.es
El lujo se marcha, el chabolismo se queda
Los megayates, las villas de lujo, los jardines tropicales, el caviar, los simpas de miles de euros, las botellas de champán (tamaño melquisedec) servidas entre bengalas y aplausos, los reservados, las zonas VIP, los lamborghini y los Ferrari reventando los radares de las carreteras de la isla...
www.diariodeibiza.es
The luxury leaves, the shanty towns stay...
El lujo se marcha, el chabolismo se queda
Los megayates, las villas de lujo, los jardines tropicales, el caviar, los simpas de miles de euros, las botellas de champán (tamaño melquisedec) servidas entre bengalas y aplausos, los reservados, las zonas VIP, los lamborghini y los Ferrari reventando los radares de las carreteras de la isla...
Behind paywall. Sorry
McRackin
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Something like that...
The mega-yachts, the luxury villas, the tropical gardens, the caviar, the simpas* worth thousands of euros, the bottles of champagne (Melchizedek size) served between flares and applause, the private rooms, the VIP areas, the Lamborghinis and Ferraris busting the radars on the roads of the island, the private parties, the exclusive after parties, the celebrities... They are for the summer. The luxury. The tickets. The money. The glitter. All that, in Ibiza, is for the summer.
The shacks. The substandard housing. The misery. The settlements. Not making ends meet. Not having to pay for a roof to sleep under or a door to lock. Not being able to rent a house all year round. Going to Caritas to look for food. Looking for the cheapest products in the supermarket. Exchanging dinner followed by drinks with friends for a beer at the corner bar. Playing tetris with utility bills. Giving up big trips... All that is for the whole year.
The more Ibiza diamonds in the middle of summer, the more impoverished most of those who live there all year round become. The glitter that fills the island during the season vanishes when the summer wanes, leaving in sight, without that layer of false gold, all that many insist on not seeing, hiding behind all the wealth left on the island by those who live there in season - "...when the heat arrives", as the romancero says - at full throttle.
Where is all that wealth? Who has it? Who has it? Who have kept it? How has all this luxury improved the lives of the Ibizan people (by birth or adoption)? Who have been able to stop living in a shack because of all this spending by millionaires? Who makes ends meet now better than before the start of the season? Has anyone been adopted by one of these deluxe tourists who spend in one dinner what the average worker earns all year round or in a bottle what a mini-apartment costs?
Luxury leaves in autumn. Shantytowns are here to stay. In Ibiza, the amusement park of millionaires, Ibizans are poor.
* "dine and dash"
The mega-yachts, the luxury villas, the tropical gardens, the caviar, the simpas* worth thousands of euros, the bottles of champagne (Melchizedek size) served between flares and applause, the private rooms, the VIP areas, the Lamborghinis and Ferraris busting the radars on the roads of the island, the private parties, the exclusive after parties, the celebrities... They are for the summer. The luxury. The tickets. The money. The glitter. All that, in Ibiza, is for the summer.
The shacks. The substandard housing. The misery. The settlements. Not making ends meet. Not having to pay for a roof to sleep under or a door to lock. Not being able to rent a house all year round. Going to Caritas to look for food. Looking for the cheapest products in the supermarket. Exchanging dinner followed by drinks with friends for a beer at the corner bar. Playing tetris with utility bills. Giving up big trips... All that is for the whole year.
The more Ibiza diamonds in the middle of summer, the more impoverished most of those who live there all year round become. The glitter that fills the island during the season vanishes when the summer wanes, leaving in sight, without that layer of false gold, all that many insist on not seeing, hiding behind all the wealth left on the island by those who live there in season - "...when the heat arrives", as the romancero says - at full throttle.
Where is all that wealth? Who has it? Who has it? Who have kept it? How has all this luxury improved the lives of the Ibizan people (by birth or adoption)? Who have been able to stop living in a shack because of all this spending by millionaires? Who makes ends meet now better than before the start of the season? Has anyone been adopted by one of these deluxe tourists who spend in one dinner what the average worker earns all year round or in a bottle what a mini-apartment costs?
Luxury leaves in autumn. Shantytowns are here to stay. In Ibiza, the amusement park of millionaires, Ibizans are poor.
* "dine and dash"
McRackin
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Vuestro lujo provoca nuestra ruina
Durante una reciente caminata por ses Feixes, Vicent Palermet, que hacía las veces de guía, explicó que en ese humedal no vivía nadie antaño. Quienes tenían allí feixes, llegaban hasta ellas a bordo de barcas, desembarcaban, cuidaban su terreno y regresaban luego a Vila por mar. Allí sólo...
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More or less...
Your luxury is causing our ruin
During a recent walk through Ses Feixes, Vicent Palermet, who was acting as a guide, explained that in the past no one lived in this wetland. Those who had feixes there reached them on board boats, disembarked, looked after their land and then returned to Vila by sea. Only the tools and the cattle remained there. Today, in the sheds where those farming tools were kept and where goats, pigs and even cows were sheltered, the disinherited, the pariahs, the lumpen, the miserable of the 21st century are sheltered. In one of these pigpens, without doors, running water, heating, a bathroom or any of the common comforts in any home, five people live in poverty. One of them is an Algerian migrant who arrived in Ibiza four years ago after being rescued in the middle of the sea by Salvamento Marítimo. He is 22 years old, but he seems to be twice as old as a result of the blows that life has dealt him, which promised to be happy when he left Africa. That trip has become his worst nightmare: now he lives worse than an animal. It is the dark side of this island of pomp and luxury, the one that will be sold in a couple of weeks at Fitur, hiding from tourist agents and clients the most miserable scenes of our reality, that of shanty towns, that of abusive rental prices (or rather pure usury) that generate gentrification and that of humans who sleep in pigsties (literally). At this tourist fair, they will only show the idyllic sunsets, the accommodations that charge fortunes to sleep in their beds or to drink their champagne, the yachts that destroy the posidonia meadows... I do not believe that this type of tourist has the slightest interest in knowing what is really going on beyond their suites or villas, nor that anyone has informed them that their luxury is causing our ruin, both socially and economically. Perhaps they will find out one day, which will come if things continue like this, when they come on holiday and there will be no one left on the island willing to live miserably to serve them champagne and oysters.
tclubber
Active Member
An Algerian came illegally and voluntarily to live in a pigpen, assisted by human traffickers posing as rescuers, and we tourists are supposed to feel sorry for him and feel guilt? 
It's not champagne and oysters others consume that are causing this man's ruin. Deport him - problem solved.
If an Ibiza native somehow ends up without a roof over their head due to some tourism excesses and without own guilt, this should be looked at. But poor migrants shouldn't blame rich migrants and tourists for their misery - they could have avoided all this by staying away from the island. Can't this guy just go to a police station (or whoever deals with migrants) and tell them he wants to return to his native Algeria? Many countries would have happily given him a free ticket home in such a situation.
It's not champagne and oysters others consume that are causing this man's ruin. Deport him - problem solved.
If an Ibiza native somehow ends up without a roof over their head due to some tourism excesses and without own guilt, this should be looked at. But poor migrants shouldn't blame rich migrants and tourists for their misery - they could have avoided all this by staying away from the island. Can't this guy just go to a police station (or whoever deals with migrants) and tell them he wants to return to his native Algeria? Many countries would have happily given him a free ticket home in such a situation.
Moha
Well-Known Member
An Algerian came illegally and voluntarily to live in a pigpen, assisted by human traffickers posing as rescuers, and we tourists are supposed to feel sorry for him and feel guilt?
It's not champagne and oysters others consume that are causing this man's ruin. Deport him - problem solved.
If an Ibiza native somehow ends up without a roof over their head due to some tourism excesses and without own guilt, this should be looked at. But poor migrants shouldn't blame rich migrants and tourists for their misery - they could have avoided all this by staying away from the island. Can't this guy just go to a police station (or whoever deals with migrants) and tell them he wants to return to his native Algeria? Many countries would have happily given him a free ticket home in such a situation.
How about native ibicencos workers.... Deport them too?
On Luxurious Ibiza, Essential Workers Are Forced to Live in Tent Cities
The Spanish island fills beachfront hotels and glittering dance clubs with wealthy tourists. But its teachers, firefighters and police officers can’t find a place to live.
At 1,900 euros a month, the rent was not cheap. But Alicia Bocuñano still felt fortunate to find an apartment on Ibiza at that price. As a taxi driver pulling 16-hour days, Ms. Bocuñano, a single mother who grew up on this Spanish island, figured that a surplus from the busy summer months might be enough to make the rent.
But her would-be landlord wanted six months of rent plus a security deposit up front — close to €14,000, or about $15,300, in one shot. Though not quite legal in Spain’s tightly regulated rental sector, such demands are common on Ibiza, where wealthy tourists fill beachfront hotels and glittering dance clubs while the people who work in those places — not to mention the island’s teachers, firefighters and other essential workers — can’t find a place to live.
In lieu of a new apartment, Ms. Bocuñano, 38, spent a frightening two weeks sleeping in her car, then three months in a tent with her 10-year-old son, Raúl, by her side, before buying a used caravan in June. For a couple of months, she stationed the Caravelair-brand trailer in Can Rova, an ad hoc village of tents, shacks and campers on the outskirts of Ibiza Town, the island’s capital, just behind a dealership selling expensive powerboats. “When we first came here it was cold,” she said. “Like, very cold.”
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On Luxurious Ibiza, Essential Workers Are Forced to Live in Tent Cities
The Spanish island fills beachfront hotels and glittering dance clubs with wealthy tourists. But its teachers, firefighters and police officers can’t find a place to live.
Not the best post in history of this Forum.An Algerian came illegally and voluntarily to live in a pigpen, assisted by human traffickers posing as rescuers, and we tourists are supposed to feel sorry for him and feel guilt?
It's not champagne and oysters others consume that are causing this man's ruin. Deport him - problem solved.
If an Ibiza native somehow ends up without a roof over their head due to some tourism excesses and without own guilt, this should be looked at. But poor migrants shouldn't blame rich migrants and tourists for their misery - they could have avoided all this by staying away from the island. Can't this guy just go to a police station (or whoever deals with migrants) and tell them he wants to return to his native Algeria? Many countries would have happily given him a free ticket home in such a situation.
Snowy
Active Member
Ibiza needs to discover zoning combined with compulsary residency. This means each property within a residential zone must be inhabited by at least one permanent resident (who of course pays all his/her income and capital gains taxes to Ibiza). Properties in these zones can be rented out, but only to people who will have their permanet residency at that property.
EU legislation will probably prohibit discrimination based on nationality or place of birth.
This means no residential properties within these zones can be rented to tourists, on Airbnb or by any other way.
I used to live in a mountain village that has this system. It kept the property prices from rising to ridiculous levels.
Obviously one needs politicians who work for the inhabitants, not for the tourist industry. If you don't have such politicians, then start your own political party.
EU legislation will probably prohibit discrimination based on nationality or place of birth.
This means no residential properties within these zones can be rented to tourists, on Airbnb or by any other way.
I used to live in a mountain village that has this system. It kept the property prices from rising to ridiculous levels.
Obviously one needs politicians who work for the inhabitants, not for the tourist industry. If you don't have such politicians, then start your own political party.