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I wonder if the shoes had any dog kurds on them 
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"...
Bush shoe-ing worst Arab insult
Zaidi's attack was launched with the words
"this is a farewell kiss, you dog"
By Martin Asser
BBC News
Around the Arab world, if you want to escalate a situation, by saying for example
"I'm going to thump you", add the words "with a shoe"
and you're literally adding insult to injury, at least the threat of injury.
It's that cultural significance that has added real sting to assault
by an Iraqi journalist against US President George W Bush
at a Baghdad news conference.
In Arab culture it's considered rude even to display the sole of one's shoe
to a fellow human being.
Certainly, crossing one's legs ankle-on-knee style should never be done
in a public place for fear of offending the person next to you.
The sensitivity is related to the fact shoes are considered ritually unclean
in the Muslim faith.
In addition to ritual ablutions before prayer, Muslims must take off their shoes to pray,
and wearing shoes inside a mosque is forbidden.
Shoes should either be left at the door of the mosque, or carried
(preferably in the left hand with the soles pressed together).
But beyond the Islamic significance, the dirty and degrading implication of the sole
of a shoe crosses all religious boundaries in the Middle East.
There has been plenty of droll reaction in the wake of Sunday's shoe attack
to experts who have informed the public that "throwing a shoe at someone's face
is considered an insult in Islam ...
But it is worth mentioning that there is quite a rich history when it comes
to shoe-ing incidents involving Iraq and the Bushes.
...
... others have called Mr Zaidi a hero, for striking a symbolic blow
against someone they hold responsible for devastating wars in the Muslim world
that have cost hundreds of thousands of lives.
..."
(news.bbc.co.uk)
"...... dog kurds on them
This is a gift from the Iraqis.
This is the farewell kiss, you dog,"
the man said, according to a pool translation.
Seconds later, the journalist hurled his other shoe with similar precision:
"This is from the widows,
the orphans
and those who were killed in Iraq," he said.
..."
(news.bbc.co.uk)
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Morbyd
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icebaer69
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YOU probably would have bounced one shoe off the floor
and the other one off the ceiling ...
... or maybe you would have hit one poor bastard sitting in front of you
at the back of his head and then the iraqi prime minister in the face by accident ...
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wtf -
iraqui journalist gets 3 years in jail
for throwing shoes at warcriminal bush !
http://www.thestate.com/world/story/711015.html
iraqui journalist gets 3 years in jail
for throwing shoes at warcriminal bush !
http://www.thestate.com/world/story/711015.html
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unbelievable - that sucker of us-cojones BLAIR
still fantasizing about "weaponsofmassdestruction" ...
still fantasizing about "weaponsofmassdestruction" ...
Oooh what's happening??? Must check for updates.
What's the point in this enquiry anyway?
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it's happening but why isn't it a court?!?!
If it is proven that an illegal war was waged against public opinion and the UN resulting in the murder of 100,000 innocent civillians...
...then those responsible will get a condescending look, a light tap on the wrist and everything will resume as normal.
Am I missing the point of this investigation?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not on an angry anti Blair tirade, but the whole thing makes a mockery of the system and I'm feeling quite patronised.
What's the point in this enquiry anyway?
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it's happening but why isn't it a court?!?!
If it is proven that an illegal war was waged against public opinion and the UN resulting in the murder of 100,000 innocent civillians...
...then those responsible will get a condescending look, a light tap on the wrist and everything will resume as normal.
Am I missing the point of this investigation?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not on an angry anti Blair tirade, but the whole thing makes a mockery of the system and I'm feeling quite patronised.
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... If it is proven that an illegal war was waged against public opinion
and the UN resulting in the murder of 100,000 innocent civillians...
...then those responsible will get a condescending look, a light tap on the wrist
and everything will resume as normal.
"...
In an interview aired last month on the BBC, Blair sparked controversy by indicating
he would have gone to war even if Saddam had been found to have no WMD,
or weapons of mass destruction.
..."
(http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/29/england.iraq.blair.inquiry/)
no doubt he is a war criminal and should get life without parole .
Brown set up the inquiry in order to get the left wing of the party off his back and hoped it would be quietly forgotten like all other government "inquiries" but it's blown up in his face because the media pack suddenly started scenting blood. As for Blair, he is only interested in his place in history. Nobody will ever really know why he backed the war so enthusiastically but I suspect a deal was reached behind the scenes that we don't yet know about eg the Americans promising to help out in Northern Ireland or agreeing to support UK interests elsewhere - who knows? I just don't believe Blair would be stupid enough to sacrifice so much in exchange for so little... Agreed that it not being legally binding makes a mockery of it... but it's still potential political dynamite ahead of an election.
Yep.
But that's the problem with the current system.
We give ALL our power to a single person (who is likely to go against us regardless) through a vote influenced by whatever bandwagon is hitting the press at the time.
Result = David Cameron.
The whole thing is a joke. Fcuk patriotism and Britain. Oh and vocoders.
(cross.)