Spanish Holiday 2018 prices expected to rise 5-10% - Thomas Cook

Digital2013

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Not specific to Ibiza, but Thomas Cook are predicting a 5-10% price rise for Spanish holidays next summer due to the falling Pound and Spanish hoteliers capitalising on increased demand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41397402

Personally think the Ibiza hoteliers have got to think carefully here...the 'serious' clubbers will still come, but the younger market are going to be pushed more and more towards the Greek Islands, Croatia and Bulgaria. While families too have a lot of other options other than Spain.

I imagine we will just see them go for a quick buck and have a bumper Summer, but it's another longer-term concern for the island.
 
Go international (outside europe) in the winter for the long breaks and nice weather, keep the breaks in europe to a 2 - 4 days limit in the summer. I find I get better value for money and the bonus of seeing new places
 
I am looking into airbnb for June 18 as a group of around 10 of us are going and stunned at what you can get for the money

Night flights however will always be very reasonable due to the amount of traffic...though I notice the Fridays or around opening/closing they can increase

It is a common theme when flights are driven down due to increase in traffic the hotels increase....and vice versa. Look at the likes of Tenerife with increased traffic due to Tunisia/Sharm/Turkey. Flights cost down hotel price up
Ultimately you don't really win after all

Side note - Just back from Turkey (Hisaronu/Oludeniz) and had a fantastic holiday. Lovely and quiet due to threat levels but not once did we feel unsafe. So cheap as well! e.g. Full English breaky £1.50 and the likes of a Turkish Bath with full body massage for £35. You could go out have a meal and get tipsy on Efes chugging on a Hookah for £20
 
I am looking into airbnb for June 18 as a group of around 10 of us are going and stunned at what you can get for the money

You spend all your money at OBC,don't entertain the alloli,and live on tinned sardines the rest of your stay. Now you're going airbnb to help put the locals cost of living through the roof .. tourismphobia is here to stay . Who loves ibiza?
 
You spend all your money at OBC,don't entertain the alloli,and live on tinned sardines the rest of your stay. Now you're going airbnb to help put the locals cost of living through the roof .. tourismphobia is here to stay . Who loves ibiza?

I actually spent nothing at OBC in July true story

Here I am pretending to be a love island winner

Ibiza slob.JPG
 
That's what rejects have to do...

? don't get it

just spoke to some hoteliers yesterday and they are being very cautious about price rises next year.

agree with all the airbnb sentiment, but imo the problem needs to be sorted out at the top level, rather than blaming visitors for booking a cheaper option. e.g. london not renewing uber licence. i love the theory behind uber, but their greyballing app just takes the mickey. you gotta play by the rules. airbnb could easily report all rentals to the tax office (as i believe they do in the states), this means all the illegal rentals would start paying their 25% tax on all stays. it doesn't solve the issue, but it's a start because suddenly the govt has some sort of control over the issue.

and imagine how much extra tax revenue for the island...!
 
e.g. london not renewing uber licence. i love the theory behind uber, but their greyballing app just takes the mickey

I don't want to derail this thread anymore. But this has to be answered.

Greyballing. - 48 rapes and sexual assaults this year up 50% on last year - not reporting complaints to met police - accidents are up ( I see 3 serious accidents involving uber drivers in just 9hrs yesterday ) predatory pricing, 60% of a uber fair us subsidised by the company that's why it's yet to turn a profit. So it isn't cheap. - drivers are on below minimum wage - the list is endless...

There isn't anything to like about uber,or it's business model.

you gotta play by the rules.

Exactly.. which these dogs don't like,because that puts the price up. And in uber case will finish them off..

Uber,Not fit and proper . That's why they have had their license revoked.
 
I am looking into airbnb for June 18 as a group of around 10 of us are going and stunned at what you can get for the money

Night flights however will always be very reasonable due to the amount of traffic...though I notice the Fridays or around opening/closing they can increase

It is a common theme when flights are driven down due to increase in traffic the hotels increase....and vice versa. Look at the likes of Tenerife with increased traffic due to Tunisia/Sharm/Turkey. Flights cost down hotel price up
Ultimately you don't really win after all

Side note - Just back from Turkey (Hisaronu/Oludeniz) and had a fantastic holiday. Lovely and quiet due to threat levels but not once did we feel unsafe. So cheap as well! e.g. Full English breaky £1.50 and the likes of a Turkish Bath with full body massage for £35. You could go out have a meal and get tipsy on Efes chugging on a Hookah for £20

Agree with you on Hisaronu/Oludeniz. I've been there twice before and its a beautiful place!
 
I am looking into airbnb for June 18 as a group of around 10 of us are going and stunned at what you can get for the money

Night flights however will always be very reasonable due to the amount of traffic...though I notice the Fridays or around opening/closing they can increase

It is a common theme when flights are driven down due to increase in traffic the hotels increase....and vice versa. Look at the likes of Tenerife with increased traffic due to Tunisia/Sharm/Turkey. Flights cost down hotel price up
Ultimately you don't really win after all

Side note - Just back from Turkey (Hisaronu/Oludeniz) and had a fantastic holiday. Lovely and quiet due to threat levels but not once did we feel unsafe. So cheap as well! e.g. Full English breaky £1.50 and the likes of a Turkish Bath with full body massage for £35. You could go out have a meal and get tipsy on Efes chugging on a Hookah for £20

Resorted to AirB&B for the first time in my life this August. It was that or not go at all. As you say, benefit of cheap flights often exterminated by obscene hotel prices and frankly, as a solo traveler, having a minimum £600 outlay for a quick trip on hotel, flights, car, UK parking and extended insurance if I didn't was way more than I want to spend on a 6th jaunt of the Summer. In my case there'd have been little left in the budget to spend on food and activities if I threw it at an overpriced dump of a hotel (refurb or no refurb) !!

The place I stayed was being rented out by people living there full time subletting rooms in order to survive. If I hadn't travelled my local spend wouldn't have inputted to the island's economy. That trip it included fuel, 2 rounds of pricey watersports activities, eating out and plenty of spend in local supermarkets. Hardly all going into the hands of an AI resort or a big club promoter ! Big groups of people can get extremely cheap per capita accommodation costs in most of the Med. It's always been like that. The people who get robbed senseless in Season with a bunch of "resort-hell hotels" and "Boho chic Agroturismos" (i.e. no decent equivalents of "legitimate B&Bs") are singles, couples and small families. That's one of the gaps AirB&B is basically filling.

So I agree with @james trying to eliminate AirB&Bs isn't going to make the island an attractive place to people who very likely spend their money out and about on the island. Letting the govt tax rental revenues through auto-reporting is a far more intelligent thing to do. If people like me can't find an affordable place to stay we will simply (sadly) wind up going somewhere we can.

Greece (other than Mykonos etc) is the same in terms of costs away from tourist traps - had a massive Apartment in rural Zante in June for £25 a night and ridiculously cheap flights. As ever the inescapable rip-off fixed costs weren't in Greece they were at home - expensive short term airport parking due no public transport at affordable flight times, expensive activity travel insurance and expensive baggage charges as I take watersports gear, being one of the main reasons I actually go !! Those 3 costs inflate any bargain deal I find these days wherever I go usually by a minimum of £200 on any short jaunt - when you can'd divide these costs by "X" people any trip winds up expensive and high local costs just add fuel to that fire :mad: !

Side note - did you go paragliding in Oludeniz ? One of the best places to do it anywhere !!

Go international (outside europe) in the winter for the long breaks and nice weather, keep the breaks in europe to a 2 - 4 days limit in the summer. I find I get better value for money and the bonus of seeing new places

Lucky to have seen a lot of long haul places in the past - desire to deal with time differences and unspeakably uncomfortable flights (unless you pay for premium cabins which make travelling ridiculously expensive) is pretty much gone now. Knocks out too much time going, coming back and recovering / adjusting either side too !
 
I think airbnb is here to stay - but brought into line with other accommodation. that's what's happening here in BCN. the actual cowboys, cash in hand lets will still offer good deals but it's very hard for them to advertise. word of mouth isn't a guaranteed income either.
 
Good to hear @kimajy - We are looking at airbnb or through other avenues due to there being a large group and it makes logistical sense as well as very cost effective considering what you get vs a hotel. I personally feel the majority of the hotels in Ibiza are pretty shabby for what you pay but again that is going back to the fact the place is very seasonal

as for Paragliding the partner wouldn't accept the required drive up the side of the mountain so didn't bother
We did do the Jeep Safari which was excellent fun and done the river rafting at one of the stops
 
Resorted to AirB&B for the first time in my life this August. It was that or not go at all. As you say, benefit of cheap flights often exterminated by obscene hotel prices and frankly, as a solo traveler, having a minimum £600 outlay for a quick trip on hotel, flights, car, UK parking and extended insurance if I didn't was way more than I want to spend on a 6th jaunt of the Summer. In my case there'd have been little left in the budget to spend on food and activities if I threw it at an overpriced dump of a hotel (refurb or no refurb) !!

The place I stayed was being rented out by people living there full time subletting rooms in order to survive. If I hadn't travelled my local spend wouldn't have inputted to the island's economy. That trip it included fuel, 2 rounds of pricey watersports activities, eating out and plenty of spend in local supermarkets. Hardly all going into the hands of an AI resort or a big club promoter ! Big groups of people can get extremely cheap per capita accommodation costs in most of the Med. It's always been like that. The people who get robbed senseless in Season with a bunch of "resort-hell hotels" and "Boho chic Agroturismos" (i.e. no decent equivalents of "legitimate B&Bs") are singles, couples and small families. That's one of the gaps AirB&B is basically filling.

So I agree with @james trying to eliminate AirB&Bs isn't going to make the island an attractive place to people who very likely spend their money out and about on the island. Letting the govt tax rental revenues through auto-reporting is a far more intelligent thing to do. If people like me can't find an affordable place to stay we will simply (sadly) wind up going somewhere we can.

Greece (other than Mykonos etc) is the same in terms of costs away from tourist traps - had a massive Apartment in rural Zante in June for £25 a night and ridiculously cheap flights. As ever the inescapable rip-off fixed costs weren't in Greece they were at home - expensive short term airport parking due no public transport at affordable flight times, expensive activity travel insurance and expensive baggage charges as I take watersports gear, being one of the main reasons I actually go !! Those 3 costs inflate any bargain deal I find these days wherever I go usually by a minimum of £200 on any short jaunt - when you can'd divide these costs by "X" people any trip winds up expensive and high local costs just add fuel to that fire :mad: !

Side note - did you go paragliding in Oludeniz ? One of the best places to do it anywhere !!



Lucky to have seen a lot of long haul places in the past - desire to deal with time differences and unspeakably uncomfortable flights (unless you pay for premium cabins which make travelling ridiculously expensive) is pretty much gone now. Knocks out too much time going, coming back and recovering / adjusting either side too !
Fair enough I will probabley think the same when im abit older. Got the travel bug at the moment, no kids, no debt, so do it whilst I can. Off to Australia in January, paying extra for flight luxury was far too much. . Ohwell in at the deep end as they say o_O:lol:
 
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