SPACE opening 2008
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agentundercover
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Nail on the head!
Also, a man has every right to complain if a club is too full. They sell and sell and do not limit the amounts attending. Having bought a ticket & then to be told to go away is outrageous.
If we have got so used to this being the norm & to be taken for granted as a cash cow like this (I felt the same at Cocoon closing) that what have we become?!
fusion
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and now in English please?
katrin0306
Active Member
I was there too and must admit that I went there too late as well. Was at carpark around 6pm, had to queue about 1h30mins then got fed up and jumped over some queue fences (sorry about that) and got in. If I have paid my ticket in advance, I expect to get in reasonable time....
All was good inside the club until Flight club and Sunset terrace was closed at midnight. After that it was impossible to be at Discoteca or Main Terrace, way too many people. After chilling about one hour or so it was OK again, some people obviously have had enough about the masses and went home.
All was good inside the club until Flight club and Sunset terrace was closed at midnight. After that it was impossible to be at Discoteca or Main Terrace, way too many people. After chilling about one hour or so it was OK again, some people obviously have had enough about the masses and went home.
i dont really see what is so outrageous about it...
Its a nightclub. Not a stadium where you have a dedicated seat.
like i said in my post earlier, if the capacity is 10,000 and they have 1,000 pre-booked, they cant be expected to sell up to 9,000 and suddenly stop, in the hope that the pre-booked tickets will arrive.
If you look on the ticket, it will say Right of admission reserved or whatever. Just cos you buy your ticket 6 months in advance doesnt mean you deserve to get in any more than someone that turns up on the day earlier.
Its all about demand, if I were the owner of space id do exactly the same thing
Seriously, at the end of the day Space was really oversold, and I would put that down to promoters just being greedy. Surely it wouldnt be that hard to regulate how many tickets are sold. If Space holds 10,000 it looked like there were mybe 15,000 there. I went to Sensation White in Holland 2005 which has 40,000 and it was way less crowded than Space. Ageha in Tokyo is Asias biggest club, and I have never seen that oversold from regularily frequenting it for 2 years. Why are people sticking up for Space and the promoter? If you are running an event that is meant to be the epitome of clubbing, then it is just pitiful if you knowingly oversell it by such large ammounts to line your pockets.
Fact: The event was oversold and this made it a lot less fun for people.
Fact: The event was oversold and this made it a lot less fun for people.
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Actually, that is EXACTLY what is wrong with Ibiza and European clubs in general. I think it's more of the way of clubbing than anything else. Here in North America, capacity is a very serious thing. If you are allowed 5000 ppl, you can print and sell 5000 tickets. So using your example, if you sold 1000 pre-booked, you are expected to sell those 9,000 and then stop as that is what is allowed of you. The promoters job is to sell all the tix, not worry if pre-sales will show up or not.
Buying your tickets in advance should entitle you to entry, not moreso than someone who bought a ticket the day before, but to those who don't have tickets and just show up to pay on the door. I know speaking from a clubowner's point of view, of course you want to sell as many tix as possible with no regard for safety or capacity. But like I said, I guess it's a cultural difference. We actually have to abide by fire and legal regulations here with our clubs and stadiums.
GazDaBomb
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then why sell tickets in advance? you buy a ticket to guarantee entry to an event. if buying a ticket dosent do this then why sell them?
scribs76
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I always thought it was dumb to pre-sell tickets.Why not do what they did when i was younger.You show up at the door and you pay to get in.When it gets full then its your fault for not showing up early enough.Then as poeple leave they let that many poeple in.Simple concept really.
They shouldnt pre-sell then turn them away if they decide to show up late that i agree with is wrong.Go back to door sales.
Did those who didnt get in get there money back?
As far as crowds go you have to expect space opening to be packed regardless!
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ibizaclubber08
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i was at the space opening with a spotlight ticket and got in pretty much straight away...we arrived there about 430pm and some doorman came to us in the queue and said, go straight to the front with that ticket if you got id. I will definitely get my tickets on spotlight again.
It was a really good party until the car park arena shut, after that, it was mayhem..you couldnt get from room to room so i left shortly after midnight.
It was a really good party until the car park arena shut, after that, it was mayhem..you couldnt get from room to room so i left shortly after midnight.
I'd give Space a 10/10 for being an awesome clubbing environment, but I'd have to say the opening party was one of the worst organised events I have ever been to. I will warn everyone I talk to about how the promoters obviously have no concern for how much they oversell it. Seriously, if you've partied in Holland, Japan, Australia, America etc you'd know for a fact that a dismal job was done at Space ...
agentundercover
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means: to hit the bull’s eye
what she said!
Toms - i have to disagree - I think it should be exactly like a stadium. They have 10,000 tickets. They sell them, they get the money, they make their profit. Simple.
Re the 1000 pre booked - just keep count - we can put a man on the moon for f's sake!
gingerfreak
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Thing is, clubs are like brothels: they want people queuing to get in. It looks good. And if they limited the number of tickets to the capacity they would always be slightly empty due to natural wastage. When for the opening of a world-famous club you want it rammed.
Also, if you sell 15000 tickets and 5000 can't get in, it's the punter's fault for not getting there earlier. You've still sold 5000 more than you otherwise would. And unlike a sporting event, not many people are in the club from opening to closing. You can get 2 tickets counting towards a single headcount over the party's duration.
This may come as a shock, but it's all about the wonga...
Also, if you sell 15000 tickets and 5000 can't get in, it's the punter's fault for not getting there earlier. You've still sold 5000 more than you otherwise would. And unlike a sporting event, not many people are in the club from opening to closing. You can get 2 tickets counting towards a single headcount over the party's duration.
This may come as a shock, but it's all about the wonga...
thegoldenboy
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I was at the opening 2 years ago and it was the same problem then. Prepaid ticket line was on hold for an hour while the paying queue went fast. So to get in fast we had to pay that one aswell.
Problem with Space opening and closing is that they're so immensely popular so that Pepe and his crew can do whatever they god damn want. People will still go to Space no matter what.
What people also tend to forget about the openings is that most of the visitors fly to the island for only visiting Space and DC10 on the opening weekend and then go home. So it's more money spent than just the 50-60 euro the ticket price is.
Problem with Space opening and closing is that they're so immensely popular so that Pepe and his crew can do whatever they god damn want. People will still go to Space no matter what.
What people also tend to forget about the openings is that most of the visitors fly to the island for only visiting Space and DC10 on the opening weekend and then go home. So it's more money spent than just the 50-60 euro the ticket price is.
I was there.
We got there at 7, knowing we'd have to wait a while to get in. We got in at 8. For 45 minutes the internet ticket Q did not move at all and was very tightly packed. Some people gave up and left, thinking they would never get in.
In hindsight I'd liked to have went a few hours earlier to make the most of it .
We caught the beginning of Fat Boy Slim then went inside for a while to the Discoteca. Had a ball in there , think it was David Merano who was playing. We then went to the terrace and watched Elio Riso , Pete Tong and a bit of Groove Armada. Then it got too busy.
We tried to go back to the Discoteca hoping that it wouldn't be so busy and to see Sasha.
NO CHANCE . The outside stage had just closed and there was a bouncer standing at the door stopping people getting in.
There were people shouting at him saying ' What do you want us to do? We can't get in to the Terrace , we're not allowed in here , where are we meant to go?'
We left soon after at 1. I wanted to see Danny Tenaglia but it was just too busy.
No room to dance, that's when it's time to leave for me.
I'm not really bitter about it though because I knew it was going to be packed.
Had a great night though.
We got there at 7, knowing we'd have to wait a while to get in. We got in at 8. For 45 minutes the internet ticket Q did not move at all and was very tightly packed. Some people gave up and left, thinking they would never get in.
In hindsight I'd liked to have went a few hours earlier to make the most of it .
We caught the beginning of Fat Boy Slim then went inside for a while to the Discoteca. Had a ball in there , think it was David Merano who was playing. We then went to the terrace and watched Elio Riso , Pete Tong and a bit of Groove Armada. Then it got too busy.
We tried to go back to the Discoteca hoping that it wouldn't be so busy and to see Sasha.
NO CHANCE . The outside stage had just closed and there was a bouncer standing at the door stopping people getting in.
There were people shouting at him saying ' What do you want us to do? We can't get in to the Terrace , we're not allowed in here , where are we meant to go?'
We left soon after at 1. I wanted to see Danny Tenaglia but it was just too busy.
No room to dance, that's when it's time to leave for me.
I'm not really bitter about it though because I knew it was going to be packed.
Had a great night though.
fusion
Active Member
not from my experience!