smoking in pubs new law in UK
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gecko2
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I think smoking should be banned in restaurants, cafes and areas in pubs which serve food.
But you should still be able to have a cig in an area of the pub, like a second room which most pubs have.
Yet again Labour go back on their word, in their last manifesto they said a total smoking ban wouldn't happen, just to get enough votes to get in. The lying ****ing b******s.
But you should still be able to have a cig in an area of the pub, like a second room which most pubs have.
Yet again Labour go back on their word, in their last manifesto they said a total smoking ban wouldn't happen, just to get enough votes to get in. The lying ****ing b******s.
gecko2 said:
I disagree totally.
For once MPs have done what they should and use their commons vote to represent what their constituents want. Every single independant poll carried out has shown that between 70 to 85% of people in the UK support an unconditional ban on smoking in public places.
Democracy at its best.
pip uk said:
I’m not a fan of New Labour but they actually haven’t lied at all. They tried to implement the ban as laid out in their manifesto but the House of Commons threatened to revolt and so the government was forced to hold a free vote (meaning mp’s can vote on personal rather than party lines). The bill as it has been passed actually represents a defeat for the Labour cabinet. Plus it was MP’s of all parties that voted for a total ban – only 125 out of 646 voted against it.
puppylover
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Kang said:Oh my giddy aunt, there will be uproar here. Some of the girls in the office spend their whole lunch hour in this room which absolutely stinks, you can't see anything through the fog and there are no windows - truly awful.
Hee hee - that's bad. When I used to be a Civil Servant we used to have the worst smoking rooms ever - just brown walls with stains running down them , grey/brown carpets, stained rickety old chairs and when the door opened - it was like being at a gig with the biggest dry ice machine ever..... Just because of the state of the rooms I would only smoke outside.... now they have these big plastic bus shelter type things out in the car parks for you to smoke it - you can see them all huddled up in coats, hats, gloves the lot for the nicotine hit.....
Since I work in a listed building we have never been able to smoke in the building and have had to stand outside (round the back for fear of lowering the tone of the company
) its a little courtyard and my god its soooo windy out there - like a little hurricane at times....I only smoke about 3 cigs at work so its not that much of a problem for me personally.
puppylover
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sandi said:It's not like your in a club at 5 am for the good of your well being anyway.
That comment has made my day,......... excellent!!!!!
MarkSimpson
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sandi said:I think a total ban anywhere that serves/sells food or anywhere near children is a great idea. But leave clubs/bars alone. It's not like your in a club at 5 am for the good of your well being anyway.
That may be... but we can choose not to go. It's a different matter for the staff. The decision was the right one, people are talking about it being a smoking ban in the UK, but it's not - Northern Ireland and Scotland had already voted on it and Wales is going to, this Act only applies to England and England would have looked very silly if it was the only part of the UK not to have a ban. The places that have been left out are exempted because they are people's homes as well as being workplaces. In years to come we will wonder what all the fuss was about and laugh at any European country that still allows smoking in workplaces.
MarkSimpson said:
Why is it a different matter for the staff?
No-one's forcing them to work in that environment!
I've just been speaking to a family friend who owns a small city centre pub and he reckons it'll have disastrous effects on his trade. He makes a fair when he says ... why can't he declare his pub a 'smoking pub' and let the customer decide whether or not to enter and risk their lives? Same goes for the staff IMO.
Because everybody knows you can't separate smokers and non smokers!
People might have the intelligence to make their own decision on whether to enter a bar or not - but they don't have the discretion to not smoke around people that don't choose to, eat food, or want to quit.
People might have the intelligence to make their own decision on whether to enter a bar or not - but they don't have the discretion to not smoke around people that don't choose to, eat food, or want to quit.
Drew said:
I don't buy into the argument that people aren't going to go out or aren't going to drink in bars and pubs just because they can't smoke. We aren't the first to do this and the point you've just raised was said about Ireland and New York and proved to be incorrect.