Sick of stuff blowing up

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I am getting really sick of stuff being blown up, it's getting so tedious hearing that something else has exploded, 20 odd kids yesterday in Iraq FFS, did that help your cause? Did it f*ck cos you are so pissed/brain washed that you cant remember what the f*ck you blew yourself up for! There are no virgins for you in heaven, there is nothing, you explode and your internal organs/limbs get liberally spread over a wide area, you die, people wail and then some poor sod scrapes you and your victims up, you picture appears on the news and people think you must have been a bit of a nob because somebody convinced you to detonate yourself.

Perhaps its because its a bit of a power trip ? Perhaps you are impressionable, very gullible and think people will think better of you, no, you are a commodity, a valuable one, anyone willing to explode is a little bit 'special'. Now have a think, do you see your 'boss' blowing himself up, no, didnt think so, hes the one planning where you will explode and a what time, when he gets off work he goes out and find all those virgins that cant get a shag because all the young men have exploded, the c0ck they were after got nicked by a scabby street dog for its dinner.

I can sort of understand that you want to be part of something but why not try something a bit more constructive, I suppose when life is that crap and dusty its easy to get jealous and want to blow stuff up. However what bothers me is that people who actually live here do it when life is not actually that crap and dusty, perhaps its a lack of Virgins in England (must agree with you on that one) that drove you to it, perhaps your council accomdation wasnt up to scratch or the benefits arent enough to pay for a Mercedes Benz. Waiting in the queue at the doctors for free medical attention is a bugger as well i guess.

Well done for blowing up Civilians, all seventy or so of them, sat reading the paper on the Bus and you get scattered to the four winds, CHEERS, perhaps you are p1ssed at our (and the American) government, well some news for you, they dont do what I tell them, they take money off me and do what the f*ck they please with it, you know Tornado's, Daisy Cutters,smart bombs,cruise missiles, Boats, tanks. I dont even get a look at the catalogue. Sorry about all the bombing and stuff but they tell me they are trying to help, I aint so sure myself but I told them to stop and guess what?

They carried on, meanwhile I get on with it as best I can, I go to work, I come home, have a beer or two occasionally, watch a bit of telly sometimes (try it, its better than exploding, most of the time), go on the interweb, go for a bike ride, go to the gym, go out with friends, in fact nothing involving high explosives and crowds of people, and guess what, I am an average punter like yourself and I dont get any virgins either !!!!!!

Dont think I am just pointing a finger at the men who exploded on the tube/bus a week ago, just anybody that isnt careful with their Semtex or C4, and it is usually men I am ashamed to say, I mean ladies for all their dithering, worrying about make up and reality tv do not have the unfortunate desire to explode (there have been exceptions), the IRA were very effective at making things explode in the past but it served no purpose, nothing changed (well the Arndale in Manchester does look better but I don't think you were on a changing rooms type train of thought at the time) but I suppose at least you had the brains to get out of the way when blowing stuff up (most of the time), then because you didnt blow yourselves up you had to live with what you had done, hope you torture yourselves about it your every waking hour (and while you sleep), in case you forgot, Tim Parry was 12 when you murdered him, 12 year olds arent really a threat to you are they ?

That Redneck Millitia nutter Tim McVey blew up that big building in Oklahoma and that did what exactly ? Killed loads of people sat bored in an office (not a crime I do it every day) and their kids in a creche, well done, good work, a real coup, you didnt explode but they put you down like a dog anyway, what a glorious end that was, put out of your misery like a Poodle with the teminal sh1ts. And people think what now, avoid Redneck gun toting loonies, er they did that before didnt they, stick to the Banjo and shagging your sister in future.

ETA have been at it for years and that has not separated the Basque region has it? Hispbollah blow stuff up as well but I cant remember what exactly that is all about, maybe they want softer toilet paper.

Anyone else that I havent mentioned, forgive me, please let me know by way of a message on this here forum and not via mailbomb. Thanks.
 
N8 said:
ETA have been at it for years and that has not separated the Basque region has it? Hispbollah blow stuff up as well but I cant remember what exactly that is all about, maybe they want softer toilet paper.


N8, I'm not sure what are you trying to say, I think I should have something to say but anyway I won't.

But don't talk about ETA cos the thing up there is so complex, there's so many facts involved that even basc people can't give an objective draw of the situation, it's not as easy as independence or not independence ;)
 
I mentioned it only in one or two lines, in passing, to point out that eta hadn't succeeded in their aims by blowing stuff up for years, just like all the others haven't.
 
Well I for one thought it was thoroughly enjoyable! Thank you!

I think what people are missing is that N8 was being hypothetical about a lot of things and expressing the anger we're all feeling - and bloody brilliantly at that! ;)

When we've got past this stage, the important thing to do is look at how we channel that anger into something positive.
 
Well done, N8. For once I'm totally with you.

For those who've been critical, I think N8's point is that whoever it is - Al Qaeda, ETA, IRA, etc. - blowing people up hasn't worked to achieve their aims. Fair point, and true, even if we're not versed in the intricasies of the conflicts.
 
:claps: saying whats in my head, ghandi got rid of the brits peacefully, you blown innocent people up it only breeds more hate and more people supporting the war!
 
N8, you are an instigator :evil: :lol:

You've just blown my head up :spank:
After a hard day at work I come home & try to digest your diatribe, catch your drift though ;)
 
I dont think i did miss the point, i just disagree with what is being said.

for example, the IRA's campaign resulted in a much improved position for that organisation and the catholics that were being persecuted and facing prejudice on a daily basis.

im sure everyone will agree that the 1960s is not that long ago, but in the north of ireland catholics did not have the same voting rights as protestants, with this being supported by the occupying british forces. the list of discriminationatory acts could be continued in depth.

so N8s point that their methods were ineffective is not true. catholics are in a vastly improved position today, sein fein is now in a position to negoatiate terms and power share at Stormont which would have been unthinkable even 20 years ago. the IRA's goals included ending the british occupation of ireland and to become a political force which they have done.

i think that the important question to ask is why such groups do what they do and the goals they are trying to acheive. to oust an invading force out of your country, not somebody elses, and to achieve equality for your people is not unreasonable.

if you look around at the conflicts of today their roots are in history. the british occupation of ireland, the british occupation of palestine etc. so it is important to know what you are talking about before making blanket statements; the history, the circumstances and the position of the people involved must be understood before a judgment is reached.
 
Are you trying to say that a sustained campaign of peaceful civil disobedience wouldn't have worked as well (or a lot better!) in gaining voting and other civil rights as the IRA's bombings?

I'm a black American and, from the experience of Dr King and many more, I can tell you that you are wrong .
 
im wrong in ure opinion Morbyd.

catholics were being thrown in prison for no reason, the british army and the RUC were supporting the daily acts of violence against catholics, my grandfather was chased into the sea along with other catholics and thrown off piers. any protest was brutally crushed.

republicanism battered itself a better deal with the British govt. Thatcher took little notice of the hunger strikers that were dying on a daily basis, so peaceful protest had little effect on her.

times today have changed, the IRA is more of a criminal organisation now than anything else, but the fact remains that the catholics and republicans in the north of ireland now have a voice which i believe would not exist had the tactics of Dr King been followed.

each situation requires separate consideration, yes it worked for the African American movement in the US, yes it worked for Gandi. Would it have worked in Ireland? i dont think so, but thats my opinion and an opinion cannot be wrong. You may disagree and probably do Morbyd but i feel its important to discuss these things rather than have them being seen as wrong and a taboo subject with no room for argument.

i would also say that little mention is ever given to the reasons behind such movements. the british govt is never criticised for invading a country and undertaking a religious purge.
 
i forgot to say that civil disobedience was attempted but was repressed by shootings and beatings.

another note on civil disobedience, two words: Bloody Sunday.
 
Marts said:
i forgot to say that civil disobedience was attempted but was repressed by shootings and beatings.

another note on civil disobedience, two words: Bloody Sunday.
Don't get me wrong... I'm not in any way diminishing the suffering of the Catholics in N. Ireland. But I think if you read your history you will agree that the scale of repression of blacks in the US was significantly larger. And you'll find that Dr King & many others in my parents' generation still overcame it without resorting to bombs.
 
Marts said:
you can take the piss all u like mark, doesnt take away ure country's disgraceful past.
ya... those Aussies and they're shrimp on the barby and forcing us to drink all that Fosters :lol:

(not to diminish, of course, the plight of the Aboriginees)
 
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