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Scoobie

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Hooray!!!

Predictions of a scorching summer today prompted the Government to send out a warning on how to cope in a heatwave.

The Met Office has issued an alert that temperatures in July and August could match the 101F recorded in Kent in 2003.

Now the Department of Health says it will distribute leaflets telling people how to keep cool and protect themselves from the sun.

The warnings come two years after a heatwave that led to the deaths of 2,000 people in Britain and 27,000 across Europe.

Experts have updated their plans and advice on how to deal with hot temperatures, which can prove fatal for vulnerable people such as the elderly. Chief Medical Officer Sir Liam Donaldson said lessons had to be learned from the thousands of death in 2003.

He said: "As the experience in 2003 demonstrated, it is particularly important that for those over 75, especially those who live alone or in residential homes, that the necessary precautions are taken to avoid serious harm through heat exhaustion and heat stroke.

"The leaflet is designed to provide the public with common sense precautions that will help people to enjoy the weather while protecting themselves from the dangerous, and potentially fatal, effects of these temperatures."

The Met Office long-range predictions-suggest the weather will be unusually warm this summer, with temperatures higher than the average of 22C (71F).

A spokesman for the Met Office said: "There is certainly a possibility that we will have hot spells. Our latest indications are for higher than average temperatures." The highest recorded temperature measured in Britain was 38.5C - over 101F - in Kent on 10 August 2003. The scorching temperatures will mean more misery for Tube passengers.

Mayor Ken Livingstone has offered a £100,000 prize to anyone who can find a workable way to keep the Underground cool, but although he is due to make an announcement on the plans next week, relief will not be on the way for years yet and certainly not in time for this summer.

New trains being introduced on the sub-surface lines - including the Circle and District - will have air conditioning units fitted, but even that won't happen until 2009.

...AS IF WE DIDN'T KNOW

The public information leaflet, called Heatwave, contains such useful advice as:


If a heatwave is forecast, try to plan your day in a way that allows you to stay out of the heat.

If you can, avoid going out in the hottest part of the day (11am-3pm).

If you must go out, stay in the shade. Wear a hat and light, loose-fitting clothes, preferably cotton.

If you will be outside for some time, take plenty of water with you.

Take cool showers or baths and splash yourself several times a day with cold water, particularly your face and the back of your neck.

Try to eat more cold food, particularly salads and fruit, which contain water.

Look after older people as they are much more prone to the effects of heat.

If you have older relatives or neighbours you can help simply by checking on them if possible every day, and reminding them to drink plenty and often. They should have a mixture of drinks, including fruit juice and water.

Help them to keep their houses as cool as possible, drawing curtains, opening windows at night or using a fan if necessary.
 
Scoobie said:
Hooray!!!
Mayor Ken Livingstone has offered a £100,000 prize to anyone who can find a workable way to keep the Underground cool, but although he is due to make an announcement on the plans next week, relief will not be on the way for years yet and certainly not in time for this summer.

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Is this a general offer? Are we gonna have publicly funded civil servants doing hours overtime working though hundreds of 'ingenious' solutions drawn up in crayon?:

"Insert hamster into wheel A to generate power for kettles row K1 to K54. Steam turns intp condensation. Condensation drips from roof when cooled thus wetting/cooling happy passengers" *beams proudly*
 
How about "Install decent air-conditioning" ?

If we can keep our trains cool during the australian summer, I don't know what the problem is.
 
... its all good and well for you southerners (when I southerners I mean anyone past York :D ) because I can guarantee the NE of england will not get these temperatures......

might have to move down south me thinks.... 8) 8) 8)
 
Mark Sun said:
How about "Install decent air-conditioning" ?

If we can keep our trains cool during the australian summer, I don't know what the problem is.

Whats all this WE Mark?

Thought you were a fully fledged Brit now!!! 8O :D
 
silvia said:
Mark Sun said:
If we can keep our trains cool during the australian summer, I don't know what the problem is.


Mark, is well known than nothing's hotter than london summer ;) :lol: :lol:

Sylvia the problem is not that we like to moan about the temperature being too hot, but that much of the tube was built 100 years ago. Most of the tunnels are far too narrow to allow any kind of air conditioning, and to rebuild it would cost millions and millions.

During the hot summer 2 years ago temperatures on the underground regularly reached 45-50 c. Thats too hot for anyone!
 
chewie_oo7 said:
who voted for this lot? and u wonder where yr taxes go...

:roll:
Ahhh, the Nanny State.

Do you honestly think it makes a difference who's in office? It's part of your national culture!
 
Scoobie said:
Sylvia the problem is not that we like to moan about the temperature being too hot, but that much of the tube was built 100 years ago. Most of the tunnels are far too narrow to allow any kind of air conditioning, and to rebuild it would cost millions and millions.

During the hot summer 2 years ago temperatures on the underground regularly reached 45-50 c. Thats too hot for anyone!

Sorry Scoobie, I know it's a really old tube system, I was making the easy joke. Anyway, come to barcelona in july and try to get into the tube... the trains are chill and nicely conditioned but the tunnels are so damned hot that you risk to have a termic shock

Anyway, 45-50C is easely reached down there (south spain) and definitly it's not a nice temperature
 
Mark Sun said:
I don't know what the problem is.

Victorian Era Tunnels and stations designed to handle horse and carraiges. PLUS its all too deep, and theres also the redtape, the people who want to protect the British Heritage and history, plus if air con was viable, it'll cost ££££££££'s, so fares will have to go up, also where will all the hot air go?

not like the tube is reknowned for its constant flow of moving trains...

best thing to do is knock the whole funking thing down and start from fresh.

take a trip on the Hong Kong MTR and look at what you could get!
 
silvia said:
Scoobie said:
Sylvia the problem is not that we like to moan about the temperature being too hot, but that much of the tube was built 100 years ago. Most of the tunnels are far too narrow to allow any kind of air conditioning, and to rebuild it would cost millions and millions.

During the hot summer 2 years ago temperatures on the underground regularly reached 45-50 c. Thats too hot for anyone!

Sorry Scoobie, I know it's a really old tube system, I was making the easy joke. Anyway, come to barcelona in july and try to get into the tube... the trains are chill and nicely conditioned but the tunnels are so damned hot that you risk to have a termic shock

Anyway, 45-50C is easely reached down there (south spain) and definitly it's not a nice temperature

No worries Sylvia I know it was a joke ;)

It is actually frightening how hot it gets down there. a few years ago I fainted on a tube train (the only time I've ever fainted in my life). Really frustrating thing is that not a single miserable, unfriendly Londoner would help me and I had to pick myself up and crawl off the train onto the platform. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Now if it is really packed I just won't get on it. I'd rather be late for work that make myself ill.
 
The current is convinced I would get arrested if I regularly had to travel by tube in the summer. Patience isn't my strong point and people being rude, pushing and shoving in that heat would lead to instant retribution :lol:

I got a bus the other day, however, for only the second time in years and was pleasantly surprised....
 
Ummm I wasn't suggeting air-conditioning the entire tunnel system, just sticking airconditioners on the carriages!
 
Mark Sun said:
Ummm I wasn't suggeting air-conditioning the entire tunnel system, just sticking airconditioners on the carriages!

That's what we have in here, altho IMO it's not healthier. THe train temperature is 5ºC and the tunnel temperature is 45ºC :?
 
Mark Sun said:
Ummm I wasn't suggeting air-conditioning the entire tunnel system, just sticking airconditioners on the carriages!

but the hot air needs to go somewhere!

u ever walked past the back end of an air con unit b4!

anyways, it'll put the fares up and we dont want that do we.
 
chewie_oo7 said:
Mark Sun said:
Ummm I wasn't suggeting air-conditioning the entire tunnel system, just sticking airconditioners on the carriages!

but the hot air needs to go somewhere!

u ever walked past the back end of an air con unit b4!

anyways, it'll put the fares up and we dont want that do we.

Tunnels aren't air-tight - hot air goes into the tunnels and rises through exhaust vents that already exist.

As for fares going up, they do go up, every year - where's the money going?
 
Mark Sun said:
As for fares going up, they do go up, every year - where's the money going?

Uncle Kens Brand new mansion. and employing numbnuts who wrote the "guidelines" at the start of the post.

oh and fighting legal cases with the unions.
 
Buckley said:
The current is convinced I would get arrested if I regularly had to travel by tube in the summer. Patience isn't my strong point and people being rude, pushing and shoving in that heat would lead to instant retribution :lol:

I got a bus the other day, however, for only the second time in years and was pleasantly surprised....

I'll back you up there Buckers, i now get the 43 from lon bridge to Angel, it's a far-more refined ride!! I get the tube back though as it aint as bad in the evening (usually??) ;)
 
jjinit said:
Buckley said:
The current is convinced I would get arrested if I regularly had to travel by tube in the summer. Patience isn't my strong point and people being rude, pushing and shoving in that heat would lead to instant retribution :lol:

I got a bus the other day, however, for only the second time in years and was pleasantly surprised....

I'll back you up there Buckers, i now get the 43 from lon bridge to Angel, it's a far-more refined ride!! I get the tube back though as it aint as bad in the evening (usually??) ;)

In years gone by you, before they shortened the route, you could have fallen asleep on the 43 and woken up near Buckley Towers JJ! What a joy that'd have been, eh?
 
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