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Out of interest, and digressing slightly. What do you think would become of Ibiza town at night should the clubbing vistors decline rapidly (this is a genuine q. with no agenda!), stephen?

i don't think it would change much at all, if anything it would just become more of a sophisticat hotspot.
 
i think all the places i've never been to would close down pretty sharpish. it takes a special type of customer to pay an inflated fortune for an ordinary drink and i ain't one of them!
 
i think all the places i've never been to would close down pretty sharpish. it takes a special type of customer to pay an inflated fortune for an ordinary drink and i ain't one of them!

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For many years I have been one of the hundreds of fools who pay through the nose to sit watching the world go by.:oops: We have also found lovely bars that are as cheap as anywhere on the island no more than 20 yards from the busy streets.

I do love Ibiza town at night and had imagined the place to be completely changed and much much quieter.
 
i don't think for a minute that clubbers will desert the island just because one or two places will be affected by a morning ban. i also think that the type of person going to dc10 at 8 am isn't going to be sitting next to me in the montesol on the evening before.
 
I dont think the morning ban will affect the place too much.
I certainly have never been to a club before 2pm in Ibiza, i cant imagine getting up so early to go to DC10 etc.

I also think its fair enough that the local government are seen to be trying to tackle the drugs problem. At the end of the day these politicians have to please the people who live on the island in order to be elected into power.

And that means tackling this problem.

I would say i definitely fall in to the 'clubbing tourist' category and im not worried by the potential changes, the only thing that gets up my nose is the local people in power brandishing clubbers as the plague and saying we dont spend money in local businesses or put money in to the local economy

i save up all year, every year, to visit this beautiful island. yes the clubs draw me there more than anything else, but me and my group of friends spend our hard earned cash every day in local restaurants and shops whilst we are out there as much as we do in the clubs

one of the highlights of any day on holiday is going for a meal in the evening whilst the sun is setting and sitting around having a great time as a group of friends. this is something we do every single night on holiday no matter how rough we feel.

we also pay ridiculous prices for this food, and ridiculous prices for drinks in bars and for taxis to take us all over the island.
money i suspect is helping fuel the local economy

i dont drink much in the clubs as i think 12 euro is a bit excessive for one beer, but yes i do buy on or two each time i go to a big club so in all fairness i guess on a sunday space will get around 70 euros of my money which is lining some rich guys already buldging pockets, but i dont care.

when im 35 and sat at home with a wife and kids i will remember these summers all too well and think what a great time i had.

i wish the local government realised that these 'plagues' spend a hell of a lot of money on their island and the majority of it doesnt all go to the clubs as they think.
for the money i spend in ibiza i could go to australia for 3 weeks. without our types the island would die a very fast death!!

and they go on about the 1400 people who have been treated for drug related illnesses etc.
thats not a lot of people really is it? if everyone was drinking all day every day im sure they'd be treating alot more than that!!

i was astonsihed to find the average age being 31. you'd think people would know there limits by then.


i wonder if they would tell us how many of these people they treated were holidaymakers?? no matter where you go in the world there will always be local people who are addicted to drugs and have to be treated at some point etc.

and out of 4 million visitors, 1400 isnt bad is it! there are a small minority

anyway, i dont know anything about the island politics, only what i read on here so take everything i say with a pinch of salt, its only my opinion!!
 
i wonder if they would tell us how many of these people they treated were holidaymakers?? no matter where you go in the world there will always be local people who are addicted to drugs and have to be treated at some point etc.
take your own conclusions:

"As expected the figures are also very seasonally affected with an average of eight cases every day in August, falling to six daily in July and September, with the lowest figures in November and January where it falls to just one a day"

( http://www.spotlight-forums.com/showthread.php?t=52271&p=1180992 )
 
from the ibiza sun:

Poopy Scoop
The Town Hall of San Antonio confirmed on Tuesday that they would stepping up their fight against dog owners who do not clean up after their animals. The Council has recognised the problem, and is warning all owners to carry bags with them whenever they are walking their dogs. Owners cleaning up after their animals will help to ensure the ongoing enjoyment and a clean environment for all municipal residents. Fines for perpetrators will range between €30 and €300. They also reminded pet owners that free spades were available from the Town Hall to help them in the task.

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we also pay ridiculous prices for this food, and ridiculous prices for drinks in bars and for taxis to take us all over the island.
money i suspect is helping fuel the local economy

i'd be interested to know how much a taxi would cost in say london, manchester or leeds for a 20 minute cab ride - you could then judge whether taxi prices were more or less expensive in ibiza

wherever you go in the world you can easily pay "ridiculous" prices for food & drink - it depends where you go - the bar i go to charges 2.40 euros for a pint which is about 1.80ukp and 1.50euro for a large bottle of estrella but if i go to a "tourist" bar i can get charged 4-5-8-10 euros....

a 5 litre bottle of water is 80cents in the supermarket... etc

i hate the bar prices in the clubs - but what do you get charged in a club in the uk/usa etc ?
 
i'd be interested to know how much a taxi would cost in say london, manchester or leeds for a 20 minute cab ride - you could then judge whether taxi prices were more or less expensive in ibiza

wherever you go in the world you can easily pay "ridiculous" prices for food & drink - it depends where you go - the bar i go to charges 2.40 euros for a pint which is about 1.80ukp and 1.50euro for a large bottle of estrella but if i go to a "tourist" bar i can get charged 4-5-8-10 euros....

a 5 litre bottle of water is 80cents in the supermarket... etc

i hate the bar prices in the clubs - but what do you get charged in a club in the uk/usa etc ?


The most I pay when I'm out in Glasgow is around £3 a vodka and around £2.80 a pint.
 
i hate the bar prices in the clubs - but what do you get charged in a club in the uk/usa etc ?

In NYC it's less than the Ibiza clubs but still expensive - $6 for a small bottle of water, $8 - $10 for a watered down drink, but there is an abundance of Happy Hours and Open Bars from 10 - 11 PM, so most people show up early, get drunk for free and the go to another club later with booze they snuck in their bags and get even more drunker. ;)

The atmosphere of clubs these days is so lacking, though, that you need to be smashed in order to have a good time. At Pacha Ibiza I didn't want to be drunk because the place was unique enough to garner a buzz without being drunk.
 
The atmosphere of clubs these days is so lacking, though, that you need to be smashed in order to have a good time.

here here....it makes me sick that most spots that are open really only care about their female to male ratio.

....and dont even get me started on their f&*^&* dress code policies.



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In NYC it's less than the Ibiza clubs but still expensive - $6 for a small bottle of water, $8 - $10 for a watered down drink, but there is an abundance of Happy Hours and Open Bars from 10 - 11 PM, so most people show up early, get drunk for free and the go to another club later with booze they snuck in their bags and get even more drunker. ;)

The atmosphere of clubs these days is so lacking, though, that you need to be smashed in order to have a good time. At Pacha Ibiza I didn't want to be drunk because the place was unique enough to garner a buzz without being drunk.

NYC sux right now for big clubs! pacha NY is ok but there is never any room to move plus its ALL VIP which is to be expected from pacha :evil:

it's all about the small clubs and lounges!
 
There's plenty of places you can go in Ibiza town that are ace and cheap as, you just need to look a little further afield than the Rock/Base Bar strip.

Being out there this winter's been a real eye-opener. I've got less and less desire to go out all night/get walloped, but just the same to go to the island every year.
 
For budgeting & technical reasons, the project will be divided into 2 phases with the first phase from the port to Cala des Moro being carried out this coming winter as the authorities feel that this section is in most need of a fundamental change, improvement & re-organisation, which building the promenade will supposedly achieve. This first section will have an imitation stone floor covering with wooden urban furniture, fixtures & fittings using 75% of the budget. The first phase will be completed by summer 2007 & the next, more rustic phase from Cala des Moro to Cala Gracio will start in autumn 2007.
bad news.....

:arrow: the govern balear suspends the second phase of the promenade to cala gració
"the works on the promenade should have started in autumn but are stopped due to the lack of financing"

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from the ibiza sun:

No Go!
On Tuesday the Govern Balear announced they would not, at the moment, be finishing off the second half of the promenade in San Antonio, despite the scheme already having been given the go-ahead. The project was first agreed back in 2002 but was not started until four years later. The total cost of the work was estimated at €7 million, which was to be paid by the Govern Balear.
The first part of the project, from ses Variades to Cala des Moro, got underway in 2006 and cost a total of €2.8 million. It was duly opened to the public in March 2007. Work on the second part, which was supposed to continue the promenade until Cala Gracio, was due to start this winter.
The councillor for town planning, Josefa Costa, said she had made enquiries earlier in the week as to why work had not already started, and was informed by officials at the Govern that the project would not be going ahead at the moment and the Town Hall would have to wait until there was more money available for such projects.
The mayor, Jose Sala, did not try to hide his anger at the decision, and promised he would make the necessary enquiries to ensure the money became available soon. However, his was not the only bad news for Sala, as it appears the Govern has also backed out of several other projects which it had promised to undertake, including a complete remodelling of the port area within the municipality.
For the moment there was no word from the Govern on the subject, but it appears finances are stretched and many projects may face the chop over the coming months.

5-Star Irish
The mayor of San Antonio, Jose Sala, returned from the Irish Tourist Fair, Holiday World, on Saturday with a firm offer from an Irish company to build a 5-star hotel within the municipality. The company, LM Developments, is in the process of negotiating the purchase of the necessary land at the moment, land which will be appropriate for building which should enable them to get the necessary licence very easily. The mayor was worried the present blanket-ban on all new building would discourage the company, but they reasserted their interest to Sala at The Fair, and said they were prepared to wait until new building legislation is introduced by the Consell Insular.
The planned hotel will have 150 bedrooms and 70 suites and would be the first 5-star hotel within the municipality. Last year there were a total of 30,000 Irish visitors to the island, but that is set to soar this year after the low-cost airline, Air Lingus, announced they would be scheduling around three flights a week from Dublin to Ibiza. The flights are due to get underway in June. Spain is, at the moment, the second most popular holiday destination for the Irish after the United Kingdom.
 

from the ibiza sun:

On Time.
The mayor of San Antonio, Jose Sala, claimed last week the work currently taking place around the town centre was ahead of schedule, and would be finished by the start of summer. Over the last several years local businesses have been angered by delays in improvements, especially to the road network, which have caused huge inconvenience as the tourists begin to arrive. However, Sala has promised this will not be the case this year and claimed, whilst on a tour of the current developments alongside a local architect, that work was ahead of schedule and would be complete by the start of summer. He even claimed some of the roads being re-done would be ready by the end of this month.
The project is all part of plans by the Town hall to make the centre of town much more pedestrian friendly, and to improve access to the commercial part of the town. Work is currently underway in the calles Cervantes, Balanzat and Santa Agnes, all of which has caused a great deal of congestion in the town centre this winter.
The car park which is currently under construction in the Plaza de España is also well ahead of schedule. Although work will continue for most of the year, close to a quarter of the site has already been finished.

plaza de españa two months ago:

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