Ibiza: The Last Great Big Puff

can see this almost impossible to enforce in somewhere like the amnesia terrace etc etc...
 
and the stale smell of beer and pi$$ hangs heavy in the air!
it may be bad for you but it didn't half mask the other smells
 
ditto that ric, i have no idea how they will tackle the problem of smoking in the clubs.
 
ditto that ric, i have no idea how they will tackle the problem of smoking in the clubs.
Problem?
I'm with my vodka-swilling friend above - there's nothing worse than taking a deep breath in a club when I visit the UK these days. The combined odors of other people's sweat and farts and, if in the wrong part of the room, the scent from the toilets is far more deadly (or at least feels that way :lol:) than a little second-hand smoke!
 
I love a nice fag in Ibiza. I can smoke 20-30 par jour and its part of my holiday. I come home and stop immediately (well done me).

I hope they come up with something sensible with regards to enforcement as they are on about public places are they not?:?

At least the bars and clubs wont have to invest in patio heaters8)
 
Ooo. I enjoy the very occasional smoke, but I've noticed my uptake increasing here. Bad times. Glad they're banning it - I've been worried about passive smoking since I arrived. Despite the fact I fag it occasionally.

Glad to hear it.
 
Has anyone ever actually been proved, 100%, without reasonable doubt, To have died or be seriously affected by passive smoking ?

Tim
 
Has anyone ever actually been proved, 100%, without reasonable doubt, To have died or be seriously affected by passive smoking ?

Tim

Yes quiet extensive research has found that it does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking

Once clubs start to get hit with hefty fines or face closure orders, they wont be long about stamping out the problem.

All it takes is for a compliant competitor to rat out an establishment flaunting the ban for it to become effective.
 
Has anyone ever actually been proved, 100%, without reasonable doubt, To have died or be seriously affected by passive smoking ?

Tim

Roy castle

http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/cancerstats/types/lung/smoking/#passive

Problem?
I'm with my vodka-swilling friend above - there's nothing worse than taking a deep breath in a club when I visit the UK these days. The combined odors of other people's sweat and farts and, if in the wrong part of the room, the scent from the toilets is far more deadly (or at least feels that way :lol:) than a little second-hand smoke!

TBH when in NY recently it was refreshing not to come home stinking of cigs. Also you cant die from sweat and farts ;)
I'm all for it, but ofcourse I dont smoke.
 
I think the intelligent solution is to give bars which have the additional facilities the leeway to let people smoke there if they choose. To impose a blanket ban, irrespective of what the punters or management want is basically dictatorial law-making. The old people you see puffing in doorways in the freeze - that to me is inhuman and they should be allowed to enjoy what limited pleasures they still have.
 
just reading today that the balearic government will have 70 inspectors backing up the guardia civil, local and national police to ensure that the new laws are complied with. fines can range from €30 to €600,000.
 
just reading today that the balearic government will have 70 inspectors backing up the guardia civil, local and national police to ensure that the new laws are complied with. fines can range from €30 to €600,000.

madness
 
theibizasun

SMOKE FREE

The 2nd of January marked an historic day for the country as Spain followed the likes of UK, Ireland and Italy by introducing tough new anti-tobacco laws. After many months of pledges from the Government, the legislation, first suggested by former Health Minister, Trinidad Jimenez, which bans smoking in bars, restaurants, discotheques, casinos, airports, as well as children's playgrounds, and access points to schools and hospitals, is finally in place. Hotels will be allowed to allocate up to 30 per cent of their rooms to smokers, with fines for breaking the law ranging from €30 up to €600,000 for the most serious cases.


However, it has not been easy for the Government to introduce the new measures and they have faced huge criticism, especially from the hospitality industry about the timing of the changes. The Spanish Federation of Hostelry estimates that the ban will lead to job losses in the region of 300,000, with customers electing to dine/drink at home.

However, Spain's new Health Minister, Leire Pajin, remained defiant claiming, "We should remember that more than 70% of Spain's population are non-smokers, so it is logical to think they will be more comfortable in bars when there is no tobacco smoke in them."

The other side of the coin is presented by the Spanish tobacco producers, most of which are to be found in Cáceres, Extremadura. Ninety-five per cent of all Spain's tobacco is produced in this area and consumption nationwide is five times more than that, at some 42 million kilograms. What concerns the growers is the end of the EU subsidies; a year ago a kilo of tobacco earned them just over €3, €2 from Brussels and €1.08 from its sale, but today the same weight is worth only €2.30, and they are feeling the pinch. The industry employs some 20,000 people, and the President of the Agricultural Society pointed out that it is a simple question of maths; “we have to double production to earn the same as a few years ago”.

It is hoped that many people will take advantage of the opportunity to give up their vice using different forms of aids. From hypnosis, ‘electronic' cigarettes, nicotine patches and chewing gum which calms the nerves, nothing is more effective than the willpower of the smoker to kick the habit, although the Government for one will be hoping not too many people succeed, for the time being at least. According to calculations after tobacco was increased in the recent budget, it has reckoned on raking in around €780 million more from smokers in 2011, a healthy figure considering the current financial strife the Government finds itself in.

However, as the hostelry sector accounts for seven per cent of gross domestic product, the government will hope there is not too big an economic fallout from the ban, as Prime Minister, Jose Luis Zapatero, keeps one eye on elections in 2012.
 
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