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Mr. Blonde

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i know there have been some for the past few days in Scotland, but what i woke up to this morning was unreal.

was on Sky News and BBC 24, just after seven with the havoc and chaos those dickheads are making in the peaceful city (its too small to be a "city" though, more half village/half town-city) of Stirling.
three hundred people roughly in black scarves disguising there face are in fights with the police, and smashing shop and car windows as they go.

Police have clashed with hundreds of protesters as the leaders of the world's wealthiest nations head for the G8 summit in Scotland.
Central Scotland Police said violence erupted in Stirling when residents of an eco-camp near the city began moving towards the Gleneagles area.

Chief constable Peter Wilson, who is heading the G8 police co-ordination centre in Scotland, told the BBC: "In Stirling, you would see the same kind of stand-off position that we saw in Edinburgh on Monday."

Thousands of protesters are due to march close to the summit cordon, while 50,000 people will attend the final Live 8 event in Edinburgh.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4653545.stm


and then suddenly SKY NEWS, BBC 24 and the terrestrials stopped updates on the protests to go to the London Olympic bid all at the same time. :?
 
there a bunch of bastards.
what right do they have to abuse places like that? and the police are just doing there jobs. :(

apparently there from Italy, German, some other European countries, and i havent heard Scottish, but the mentioned some people from England too.
 
The Scots are normally pretty well behaved at these kind of things. All the money they need for this cause and think of all the money which will be spent up on clearing up the mess these people made. It's absolutely sickening.
 
I hate 'antis' - people who protest aggressively about funking everything. I'm not a complete capitalist pigddog, but my experience of protesters, mainly gained during my time as a student, is that they are generally unreasonable and lack any real understanding of issues they protest about.

And as for smashing up cars in the street, cars that other people (people like, perhaps, those protestors parents or friends) work to pay for - I know violence is rarely a solution to anything, but someone who does that and gets a kicking of an over-enthusiastic riot copper can expect little sympathy from me.
 
Buckley said:
I hate 'antis' - people who protest aggressively about funking everything. I'm not a complete capitalist pigddog, but my experience of protesters, mainly gained during my time as a student, is that they are generally unreasonable and lack any real understanding of issues they protest about.

And as for smashing up cars in the street, cars that other people (people like, perhaps, those protestors parents or friends) work to pay for - I know violence is rarely a solution to anything, but someone who does that and gets a kicking of an over-enthusiastic riot copper can expect little sympathy from me.
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Abso - frickin - lutley Amen!

And don't get me started on the Cuntryside Alliance (sic)..
 
Buckley said:
I hate 'antis' - people who protest aggressively about funking everything. I'm not a complete capitalist pigddog, but my experience of protesters, mainly gained during my time as a student, is that they are generally unreasonable and lack any real understanding of issues they protest about.

And as for smashing up cars in the street, cars that other people (people like, perhaps, those protestors parents or friends) work to pay for - I know violence is rarely a solution to anything, but someone who does that and gets a kicking of an over-enthusiastic riot copper can expect little sympathy from me.
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cant imagine them all cycling/walking home.
 
chewie_oo7 said:
Buckley said:
I hate 'antis' - people who protest aggressively about funking everything. I'm not a complete capitalist pigddog, but my experience of protesters, mainly gained during my time as a student, is that they are generally unreasonable and lack any real understanding of issues they protest about.

And as for smashing up cars in the street, cars that other people (people like, perhaps, those protestors parents or friends) work to pay for - I know violence is rarely a solution to anything, but someone who does that and gets a kicking of an over-enthusiastic riot copper can expect little sympathy from me.
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cant imagine them all cycling/walking home.
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hahaha
 
they probably go home in that trolley full of rocks that they use to chuck at police, they keep trailing around with them.
 
I just don't believe that people with such polarised views actually understand the complexities of the things they 'believe' in.

The current Mrs B and I walked past a temporary 'animal rights direct action' stall in Muswell Hill on Sat. We really, really love animals and dread the thought of them being treated cruelly by anyone.

However, I don't feel I know enough of attempts to further medical science through animal experiments, to say I'm completely against it. If there is a real hope of creating, for example, a cure for cancer/AIDS through it, I may (as I say I'm unsure) think it could be justified.

So... I quizzed one the people running the stall about what kinds of organisations they took 'direct action' against and what form it took.

The bottom line - they didn't know, or didn't want to tell me - so I gave them sweet FA.
 
well u cant really justify any form of cruelty to animals for the curing human diseases.

u can say it did "good" for human civilization, but who can say they can draw the line as to what u should be allowed to do to a helpless animal in the quest to help cure diseases.

(i'm not moaning at u, i know your unsure, but just thought id make a point).
 
Mr. Blonde said:
well u cant really justify any form of cruelty to animals for the curing human diseases.

u can say it did "good" for human civilization, but who can say they can draw the line as to what u should be allowed to do to a helpless animal in the quest to help cure diseases.

(i'm not moaning at u, i know your unsure, but just thought id make a point).
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I probably agree with you, but I'd have to find the time to do an awful lot of reading to say so for sure.
 
Cosmetics / shampoos - not justified.

If animal experiments were to lead to cures for hideous or dehabilitating ailments, then I'm sorry but I would agree.

It would still be awful but justified.

I've lost quite enough people close to me to have come to this personal conclusion.

And as Buckley says, most of the Animal activists seem to be as uninformed as say, me, for example.

And I used to be in the Hunt Sabs.... 8O
 
MARKB said:
Cosmetics / shampoos - not justified.

If animal experiments were to lead to cures for hideous or dehabilitating ailments, then I'm sorry but I would agree.

It would still be awful but justified.

I've lost quite enough people close to me to have come to this personal conclusion.

And as Buckley says, most of the Animal activists seem to be as uninformed as say, me, for example.

And I used to be in the Hunt Sabs.... 8O
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ive lost people too, and i know how important it is to gain cures.

but it cant be said its justified to kill helpless animal and to force them to spend there life in a cage, and to die after (sometimes, not all) intense pain.

just because its a mouse? a mouse has a life too.
so no its wrong.
maybe u can say "it had to be done" or whatever, but u cant say that doing something like that is right.

-in my opinion.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
MARKB said:
Cosmetics / shampoos - not justified.

If animal experiments were to lead to cures for hideous or dehabilitating ailments, then I'm sorry but I would agree.

It would still be awful but justified.

I've lost quite enough people close to me to have come to this personal conclusion.

And as Buckley says, most of the Animal activists seem to be as uninformed as say, me, for example.

And I used to be in the Hunt Sabs.... 8O
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ive lost people too, and i know how important it is to gain cures.

but it cant be said its justified to kill helpless animal and to force them to spend there life in a cage, and to die after (sometimes, not all) intense pain.

just because its a mouse? a mouse has a life too.
so no its wrong.
maybe u can say "it had to be done" or whatever, but u cant say that doing something like that is right.

-in my opinion.
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how about if you are trying to find a cure to animal diseases? is that ok?
 
interesting question. may be yeah or no, i dont know. thats a difficult question.

but at least there dying for own race (if they were to do it), and not someone who is being cruel and forcing them to be used to help lives that are not of the same race or if interest to them probably.
 
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