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*Saffy*
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Thank you .. for not being judgemental and for the support. It means a lot.
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*Saffy*
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Yep Drew 
Tsk at this mid life crisis of ours .. if only he'd listened when I said I wanted a sports car .. instead, we decided to go out clubbing ...
Tsk at this mid life crisis of ours .. if only he'd listened when I said I wanted a sports car .. instead, we decided to go out clubbing ...
puppylover
Active Member
*Saffy* said:
How on earth can any of us be judgemental towards you.... "there but for the grace of god and all that......" probably stands for most of us at some time or another...
You know you will have our support and it will be unconditional, and I am sure I speak for virtually all the board here..... x
gingerfreak
New Member
Fergie19 said:I used to think hardly anyone took anythingNow I've realised that about 80% of folk I know smoke joints, and about 60% take class A's (oh, maybe I shouldnt have forced them down their necks
...just kidding
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Gingerfreak, how did they find out? My Mum would honestly kill me if she ever found out
Ummm, I might have mentioned something to them. We have a pretty open relationship generally, and they know I've done stuff on and off for the last 15 years (I gave up trying to hide it after I got repeatedly caught smoking joints), and they know I'm pretty responsible about how I do stuff so they don't worry any more than any parent does. I've tried to educate them cos I think ignorance causes more worry but it hasn't really worked.
gingerfreak
New Member
Yes, good luck Saffy. Hope everything works out ok.
Paddy Eeziglow
Active Member
Good luck with your situation Saffy- have you got union representation? I only ask because when I got busted for posession six years ago my union were brilliant and were probably the difference between my being demoted and my being stuck off the Nursing Register altogether
As for my friends, family etc, my Mum & Dad believe that I've all but grown out of using class A's except for shrooms, and my Mum believes I don't even do those. I'm lucky enough to be in a position where I can share a J with either of my parents, and talk in-depth about Class A's. Talktofrank.com is quite a good resource for parents who are worried as it doesn't use sensationalism to get the point accross and I use that, cross-referencing with the British National Formulary to educate myself and my friends about drugs. HOWEVER, I do have some friends who use talktofrank.com as a weekend shopping list
As for my friends, family etc, my Mum & Dad believe that I've all but grown out of using class A's except for shrooms, and my Mum believes I don't even do those. I'm lucky enough to be in a position where I can share a J with either of my parents, and talk in-depth about Class A's. Talktofrank.com is quite a good resource for parents who are worried as it doesn't use sensationalism to get the point accross and I use that, cross-referencing with the British National Formulary to educate myself and my friends about drugs. HOWEVER, I do have some friends who use talktofrank.com as a weekend shopping list
copperband
New Member
I went to Ibiza this year with some friends but not my wife because she isn't in to clubbing and she went her own holiday with her sister. She knows I 've been into clubbing since I was 17 (14 yrs ago) but knowns that in all that time I had never had any drugs other than a few smokes (This alone she hates). The day I came back from Ibiza we had to have the family cat put to sleep, which we had to stand and watch (for the cats dignity) You can imagine my almost uncontrolled tears were something of a shock to her but I think whilst supsicious of me she put the reaction down to the fact that I am an animal lover and this was a shock to me.
She asked me in Nov when we were on holiday together in the Maldives if I had taken drugs and I told her only smokes, I hate telling lies but the reaction she would give me had I said yes would have ruined the holiday.
Anyway a few weeks ago she is on the computer and looking though my emails (another story) and finds one I sent to a mate telling him how emotional messed up I felt after Ibiza and how I put it all down to the pills. You can imagine the reaction I received on returning home to be greeted by ther news that she had found out
Her opinion on the whole matter is complete lack of understanding or desire to understand the situation. Now when I go out she only wants to know did I take drugs not did I have a nice time.
It is a very difficult situation. Thank goodness she hasn't seen the last 2 nights Drugland programmes which would further cement her thoughts on drugs and what they lead to
She asked me in Nov when we were on holiday together in the Maldives if I had taken drugs and I told her only smokes, I hate telling lies but the reaction she would give me had I said yes would have ruined the holiday.
Anyway a few weeks ago she is on the computer and looking though my emails (another story) and finds one I sent to a mate telling him how emotional messed up I felt after Ibiza and how I put it all down to the pills. You can imagine the reaction I received on returning home to be greeted by ther news that she had found out
Her opinion on the whole matter is complete lack of understanding or desire to understand the situation. Now when I go out she only wants to know did I take drugs not did I have a nice time.
It is a very difficult situation. Thank goodness she hasn't seen the last 2 nights Drugland programmes which would further cement her thoughts on drugs and what they lead to
copperband said:I went to Ibiza this year with some friends but not my wife because she isn't in to clubbing and she went her own holiday with her sister. She knows I 've been into clubbing since I was 17 (14 yrs ago) but knowns that in all that time I had never had any drugs other than a few smokes (This alone she hates). The day I came back from Ibiza we had to have the family cat put to sleep, which we had to stand and watch (for the cats dignity) You can imagine my almost uncontrolled tears were something of a shock to her but I think whilst supsicious of me she put the reaction down to the fact that I am an animal lover and this was a shock to me.
She asked me in Nov when we were on holiday together in the Maldives if I had taken drugs and I told her only smokes, I hate telling lies but the reaction she would give me had I said yes would have ruined the holiday.
Anyway a few weeks ago she is on the computer and looking though my emails (another story) and finds one I sent to a mate telling him how emotional messed up I felt after Ibiza and how I put it all down to the pills. You can imagine the reaction I received on returning home to be greeted by ther news that she had found out
Her opinion on the whole matter is complete lack of understanding or desire to understand the situation. Now when I go out she only wants to know did I take drugs not did I have a nice time.
It is a very difficult situation. Thank goodness she hasn't seen the last 2 nights Drugland programmes which would further cement her thoughts on drugs and what they lead to
with respect aren't married couples supposed to share everything and not have secrets? if your life partner can't handle a trait (albeit slight) of your personality to the extent that you are scared of them finding out then you must feel like you're walking on eggshells!!
Not an easy situation is it? My bro's girlfriend is quite against drugs, but know's we're on stuff when we're all out. In general, peoeple just think your a bad person who is going to die from taking them
Example:
On holiday in Ibiza this year (4 of us, all taking drugs), met up with two of our other mates who were out there as a couple. They're not into clubbing/drugs, just getting very drunk.They dont know we do stuff...
Met up with them one night at Mambo's for the 10th Anniversary. We had all dropped, and were standing having good conversations, standing up straight, enjoying the company etc. On the other hand, they were both extremely drunk, falling into folk, being FAR too loud....and would not stop going on about the loser 'druggies' everywhere.
People are very naive to the whole scene imo
Example:
On holiday in Ibiza this year (4 of us, all taking drugs), met up with two of our other mates who were out there as a couple. They're not into clubbing/drugs, just getting very drunk.They dont know we do stuff...
Met up with them one night at Mambo's for the 10th Anniversary. We had all dropped, and were standing having good conversations, standing up straight, enjoying the company etc. On the other hand, they were both extremely drunk, falling into folk, being FAR too loud....and would not stop going on about the loser 'druggies' everywhere.
People are very naive to the whole scene imo
copperband
New Member
with respect aren't married couples supposed to share everything and not have secrets? if your life partner can't handle a trait (albeit slight) of your personality to the extent that you are scared of them finding out then you must feel like you're walking on eggshells!!
Do you honestly believe this to be true
I don't know of any couple (gay or straight) that doesn't have at least one secret that the other one doesn't know about.
To put it in context I probably get more daily grief for letting the dogs into rooms their not supposed to be in than for my dabbling with illicit substances which is at the most once every 4 - 6 weeks.
puppylover
Active Member
NITEFLY said:
speak for yourself - 
copperband said:with respect aren't married couples supposed to share everything and not have secrets? if your life partner can't handle a trait (albeit slight) of your personality to the extent that you are scared of them finding out then you must feel like you're walking on eggshells!!
Do you honestly believe this to be true
I don't know of any couple (gay or straight) that doesn't have at least one secret that the other one doesn't know about.
To put it in context I probably get more daily grief for letting the dogs into rooms their not supposed to be in than for my dabbling with illicit substances which is at the most once every 4 - 6 weeks.
Sure, but there's a difference between grief for forgetting to shut doors and a completely different opinion on a subject that is a significant part of your life.
I can only speak from my own situation but I find it better to get the topic on the discussion table and even if you end up disagreeing, you at least know where you stand and what the parameters are for future reference.
Lying or deceit is just avoiding the issue, and it won't simply go away by itself....
(Off soap box now and apologies for ramblings - Good Luck Saffy, I'm sure there's plenty of people who are willing to offer you support - even if it's merely an ear to bend....)
gingerfreak
New Member
I went to Ibiza with my sister and her boyfriend in '02 and '04. They don't take drugs, but my brother-in-law is a bit of a boozer. They like to go to Ibiza though, and do the 'club thing' so I take them to places like Cream (plenty of beer-boys there) and Eden (ditto). We also go down the West End a lot when they're with us.
This time we went to Space on Sunday, which was an eye-opener. My sister really loved it, was dancing away, laughing, chatting, without a single stimulant, including alcohol. My brother-in-law sat down the whole time but seemed to be enjoying it, even if not in any major way. Only a couple of months after did he say that he 'hated every f***ing minute of it', proclaiming that everyone was false because they had to take drugs to enjoy it. I pointed out that people don't walk in and are immediately spannered, that me and the people I was with waited a good three hours before starting. I also asked him what his idea of a good time in Ibiza would be and he replied it would be 'walking down the West End, bartering with the reps for more shots or cheaper drinks'. This for him is nirvana, but I personally find it embarrassing when he starts doing that cos he's usually hammered, which makes him talk incredibly loudly, and he gets quite agressive, not in a fighting way just in his mannerisms. He also starts singing football songs.
The summary of this huge meandering rambling bumf is that it seems that some people don't seem to class alchohol as a drug, and that people who take clubbing drugs are sad because it seems to them to be escapist and the only way such people (we) can socially relate to anybody.
This time we went to Space on Sunday, which was an eye-opener. My sister really loved it, was dancing away, laughing, chatting, without a single stimulant, including alcohol. My brother-in-law sat down the whole time but seemed to be enjoying it, even if not in any major way. Only a couple of months after did he say that he 'hated every f***ing minute of it', proclaiming that everyone was false because they had to take drugs to enjoy it. I pointed out that people don't walk in and are immediately spannered, that me and the people I was with waited a good three hours before starting. I also asked him what his idea of a good time in Ibiza would be and he replied it would be 'walking down the West End, bartering with the reps for more shots or cheaper drinks'. This for him is nirvana, but I personally find it embarrassing when he starts doing that cos he's usually hammered, which makes him talk incredibly loudly, and he gets quite agressive, not in a fighting way just in his mannerisms. He also starts singing football songs.
The summary of this huge meandering rambling bumf is that it seems that some people don't seem to class alchohol as a drug, and that people who take clubbing drugs are sad because it seems to them to be escapist and the only way such people (we) can socially relate to anybody.