car, failing eyesight, never again. you can fill in the rest.
first dead of season 2007 :-( rip
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car, failing eyesight, never again. you can fill in the rest.
Of course I would, even if I hadn't met the occupants. My point is that I can understand why another person would not feel the same compassion. I would argue that it is more common for members of the public to feel less compassion for drug related deaths due to the hysteria surrounding its use. I'm sure we've all heard someone say 'they deserved it' when speaking of a drug induced fatality. Their outburst can often be due to their undenying 'hatred' of illegal drugs and refusal to understand their use. Its very easy to see a story for face value, it takes more thought to consider that a person is not defined by one action.
To reiterate, I can sympathise with this guy and his poor family.
Oh and yes I knew who you were talking about from the outset and understand the relevance in this context.
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what a strange read this thread is!
anyhows, i feel for his loved ones, it will be such a loss for them, devastating. regardless of how or why someone dies there is usually family and friends left behind suffering with grief
and only 18 bless him, so young, and no doubt thoroughly enjoying life at the time in ibz
a very good friend of mine died young, due to another friend being totally off it whilst driving on a motorway back from a club (it was the norm then) and they crashed and helen didnt make it
she was in her prime, young, partying hard enjoying life to the max
we had just had an amazing nite and it ended tragically
such is life sometimes
just like the guy at DC10
anyhows, i feel for his loved ones, it will be such a loss for them, devastating. regardless of how or why someone dies there is usually family and friends left behind suffering with grief
and only 18 bless him, so young, and no doubt thoroughly enjoying life at the time in ibz
a very good friend of mine died young, due to another friend being totally off it whilst driving on a motorway back from a club (it was the norm then) and they crashed and helen didnt make it
she was in her prime, young, partying hard enjoying life to the max
we had just had an amazing nite and it ended tragically
such is life sometimes
just like the guy at DC10
turn around, mate, the crowd's behind you
I wondered where the heckling was coming from
Beckiboo
Active Member
I can see both sides of the argument here.
I get what Chewie is saying, some people do go to the extremes with drugs. You read stories about how toxicology reports have found that a clubber had stupid amounts of all kinds of stuff in their systems. Especially GHB which it seems to me is the one thing that you have to be seriously careful with.
The thing is, whatever you do you're putting your body at risk, even if you are only drinking. We don't know what this lad took or done that night, he could have been ridiculously stupid that night, or he could have just been very unlucky.
It doesn't hurt to show compassion when something like this comes up though, as nearly everyone on this board goes out clubbing and it could have been any one of us.
What's the line between being in control and going over the top? I see some people in clubs and I'm just like WTF - how are they even alive they look absolutely wrecked!! I try myself never to get like that, it scares me to lose control
Yet some other people can push the boundaries and seem to get away with it.
It's a risk we take everytime we go clubbing, they key thing is just to stay safe and listen to your body.
I get what Chewie is saying, some people do go to the extremes with drugs. You read stories about how toxicology reports have found that a clubber had stupid amounts of all kinds of stuff in their systems. Especially GHB which it seems to me is the one thing that you have to be seriously careful with.
The thing is, whatever you do you're putting your body at risk, even if you are only drinking. We don't know what this lad took or done that night, he could have been ridiculously stupid that night, or he could have just been very unlucky.
It doesn't hurt to show compassion when something like this comes up though, as nearly everyone on this board goes out clubbing and it could have been any one of us.
What's the line between being in control and going over the top? I see some people in clubs and I'm just like WTF - how are they even alive they look absolutely wrecked!! I try myself never to get like that, it scares me to lose control
Yet some other people can push the boundaries and seem to get away with it.It's a risk we take everytime we go clubbing, they key thing is just to stay safe and listen to your body.
It is very very sad when such a young life is lost, especially in such circumstances, I feel sorry for his friends and family. and chewie has made his point, I have to agree that he couild have applied a tad more diplomacy!! but dont hang him out to dry.
Mind you, Im not surprised by some of the reactions. I mean the other week I was guilty of nothing more than extravagance born out of a misplaced spiritual connection to a certain Manchester nightclub and you would have thought I had come on here and said that I like to rape the dead mouths of babies....which I don't....obviously!!
Mind you, Im not surprised by some of the reactions. I mean the other week I was guilty of nothing more than extravagance born out of a misplaced spiritual connection to a certain Manchester nightclub and you would have thought I had come on here and said that I like to rape the dead mouths of babies....which I don't....obviously!!
well thats not what you said in your text at stupid-o-clock sun morning.
no you're right....I said "f**k off chewie you fu**in goon!!!"
Loving the controversy.
It amazes me that people seem to not understand that if one drug is telling your body and mind to speed up, and another is telling it slow down. It all goes a bit wrong. I'm fully behind Chewie. Think about his Mum, mates, everything, it's selfish doing stuff like that and all too common. If I lost my life or a loved one of mine did just to go that little step further and get even more wrecked I would hate myself or them...which brings me to my next point...
DON'T SMOKE CRACK KIDS.
It amazes me that people seem to not understand that if one drug is telling your body and mind to speed up, and another is telling it slow down. It all goes a bit wrong. I'm fully behind Chewie. Think about his Mum, mates, everything, it's selfish doing stuff like that and all too common. If I lost my life or a loved one of mine did just to go that little step further and get even more wrecked I would hate myself or them...which brings me to my next point...
DON'T SMOKE CRACK KIDS.
Ali Bon Tempi
Active Member
crack is whack! holla
Buckley
Well-Known Member
Soz Chewie. You lose.
Philly Cent
New Member
With Age comes wisdom, we all learn from experience, but there are often hard lessons to learn, with the loss of life, so young to those directly involved, will be very painful!!
Pipe down. I take all your banter gracefully but it's starting to get dry.
Buckley
Well-Known Member
If only to avoid your 'fight list' I will concede.......
In return I expect to be declared triple-supersized-hench-me-up-innaewekingdom-........scene?
*proffers spud*
Whats really sad about this is that some poor soul has died and may he rave on in heaven.
If our governments did not take such a draconian view on the "use" of narcotics then these kinds of deaths would be even fewer and further between. It's a sad state of affairs when people who wish to get high have to buy from back street illegal dealers whilst the Governments of the EU and most of the western world are willing to tax alcohol and tobacco which kill far more people every day than all "recreational" drugs put together.
Lets not fight amongst ourselves. It serves no purpose other than to fuel the myth that recreational drug use is wrong when we all know that in fact it can be very pleasurable.
My thought are with the young guy at this moment. I hope you all pause for a minute and think "It could have been me"
If our governments did not take such a draconian view on the "use" of narcotics then these kinds of deaths would be even fewer and further between. It's a sad state of affairs when people who wish to get high have to buy from back street illegal dealers whilst the Governments of the EU and most of the western world are willing to tax alcohol and tobacco which kill far more people every day than all "recreational" drugs put together.
Lets not fight amongst ourselves. It serves no purpose other than to fuel the myth that recreational drug use is wrong when we all know that in fact it can be very pleasurable.
My thought are with the young guy at this moment. I hope you all pause for a minute and think "It could have been me"
Still keeping going. I have no clue what the latter part of that statement is.
The only way he died is because of "back street illegal dealers" ?!?, he died coz he used too many and too varied drugs. It could NOT have been me because I wouldn't do that. Your argument on the Government and how it should legalise and control drug use infuriates me and is ridiculous. I won't go into it but just try and think beyond that statement for one minute and give me some proposition on how this would be done. Don't give it the cheesy quaver, let's all do another half, never harmed anyone, the free radicals ****e and think about what your doing, and saying.
Talk about a can of worms.... sheesh.
It's a shame, but we all should know and stick to our own limits. Thousands of people walk the tightrope like this every weekend and it bothers me when I see someone so off their face that they clearly can't look after themselves. That's the problem with drugs, you just don't know what you're taking. He could have taken too much, or he could have taken a couple of pills that were heavily cut with ketamine or anything. It is a ****ing lottery. I feel for the family of anyone that dies to drug use as it must be so horrific.
On a side note, has this happened in DC10 before?
Hope the authorities don't come down hard on them for it.
It's a shame, but we all should know and stick to our own limits. Thousands of people walk the tightrope like this every weekend and it bothers me when I see someone so off their face that they clearly can't look after themselves. That's the problem with drugs, you just don't know what you're taking. He could have taken too much, or he could have taken a couple of pills that were heavily cut with ketamine or anything. It is a ****ing lottery. I feel for the family of anyone that dies to drug use as it must be so horrific.
On a side note, has this happened in DC10 before?
Hope the authorities don't come down hard on them for it.