Empty trains
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jjinit said:The Fox said:
Im suddenly "pro hunting"
Sorry, it's a slow day at work. But seriously folks, the way I see it is if I get blown up on a tube there's nothing I could have done about that, but if I stop using it then I've made a concious decision to change my life, and the terrorists have won. On 7/7 it took me 5 hours to get a taxi to work becuase there was no way I was going to let those murdering bastards dictate my life.
synchronicity
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Barbie said:Beckiboo said:Did anyone travelling home on the tube last night see how empty they were
I purposely left work late as to avoid the rush hour, but I needn't have! The Northern line was literally empty the whole way, put it this way, the seats in the carriage were never full, even going through the busy stops i.e Leic Square.
People must be really worried about a third attack
Bec I noticed exactly the same thing, I had to get the Central Line from Bond Street about 6.30 and I've never had so much room on a Central Line train at that time of day.
The horrible thing was we got stuck in a tunnel for 15 mins, I was sitting in front carriage (Tom has told me to always sit at front or back of tube cos it's safer
And I think that is the most horrible and saddest thing (obviously as well as the loss of all those lives) that has come from this, that so many innocent Muslims are having to deal with that on top of everything else
Blimey, poignant story....
PachaGirl79
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Drew said:Apart from the tragic loss of lives
...... damaging our infrastructure and all the other knock on effects.
Precisely. I have never stopped living my daily life because of terrorism.
They broke our hearts, scared us to death and tore up our families during 911... so I said to myself, why am I going to let them cripple our economy too by staying home like a scared little wimp? Its like letting them WIN in my opinion. I dunno, I guess my attitude is, if I am on a plane or in a building that goes down, that was my fate.
That is why (no offense at all to Babs because I know she loves him) I never felt the same about Danny T after 911... I always thought he was this all-American good ol' boy... but he refused to fly after we got hit and cancelled several gigs because of it
How cowardly. Imagine the bucks that were missed out on, not to mention all the disappointed fans.*PG shocked that she wandered into the arena of politics*
PachaGirl79
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I know some of you might be thinking, "who is she to comment, she lives in San Diego "
My family and I had several friends and one family member that were involved in the attack. One of them was only about 5 blocks from the World Trade at the time. Experiencing their fright and sorrow second hand was pretty much a life-altering experience for me... can't imagine what it is like for them.
They also have not stopped carrying out their travel plans and have the same attitude about it as I do, though it is a lot scarrier for them of course.
"My family and I had several friends and one family member that were involved in the attack. One of them was only about 5 blocks from the World Trade at the time. Experiencing their fright and sorrow second hand was pretty much a life-altering experience for me... can't imagine what it is like for them.
They also have not stopped carrying out their travel plans and have the same attitude about it as I do, though it is a lot scarrier for them of course.
PachaGirl79 said:That is why (no offense at all to Babs because I know she loves him) I never felt the same about Danny T after 911... I always thought he was this all-American good ol' boy... but he refused to fly after we got hit and cancelled several gigs because of it
No I agree. We were in Ibiza when Sept 11th happened and we saw Erick in Space a couple of days after and were talking to him and he said that his initial thought was to get back on the first plane home but then he realised that would mean they were winning and as hard as it was life had to go on and he was going to stay and honour his DJing commitments (and he'd had friends caught up in it all).
PachaGirl79
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Well cheers to Erick, never seen/heard about him being anything less than a class act 
He is probably the nicest, cheeriest celeb I have met actually... was soooo patient with me being overbearingly while at Pacha
Its a shame how many celebrities (and "normal" folk, for that matter) hibernated after 911... its like, thanks for boycotting the country while our own are going down overseas in order to preserve and DEFEND it :x :x
Keep your heads high and don't stop doin' what you do, my friends in the UK...
-xoxo PG
He is probably the nicest, cheeriest celeb I have met actually... was soooo patient with me being overbearingly while at Pacha Its a shame how many celebrities (and "normal" folk, for that matter) hibernated after 911... its like, thanks for boycotting the country while our own are going down overseas in order to preserve and DEFEND it :x :x
Keep your heads high and don't stop doin' what you do, my friends in the UK...
-xoxo PGHaving grown up in Northern Ireland you become quite blasee (sp) about bombs etc and accept it as something almost normal, now living in London, I was massively impressed by the city's reaction to 7/7, but now i hear of so many people who wont take the tube etc. Come on people dont give in, this is the first real challenge most of us have faced as a society, dont give in. Our grand parents survived the blitz and came out the other side of it as a stronger society, we cant give in. Dont let these extremists think they can make a difference.
Am I being naive or are we all becoming victims?
Am I being naive or are we all becoming victims?
LagunaBeachCA
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Barbie said:And I think that is the most horrible and saddest thing (obviously as well as the loss of all those lives) that has come from this, that so many innocent Muslims are having to deal with that on top of everything else
Babs:
As you know that I am of Iranian background, and I lived in Karachi for half of my growing up years, and my family is Muslim even though I do not believe in any religion.
I had a weird feeling after 9-11 the first time when I went to the shooting range. As you know I absolutely love shooting sports, but when I was driving to the range I thought how would I respond to someone who might make comments like "Who are you shooting for?" or give me some weird looks.
However, when I got there quite a few folks were not only totally normal, but everyone came by and talked to me in a very friendly manner. I told them that I was expecting sort of a mixed reaction rather than one which was business as usual, and they told me something that I will always remember. They (the supposedly "red necks" and "gun nuts" that quite a few folks term them) said that there were no mixed reactions because they know full well that "You are an American". Never was I so proud to be an American than at that moment, and I have never looked back.
I could go on giving my two cents on why misunderstandings take place but I do not want to bore everyone, if have not managed to do so up until now.
LagunaBeachCA
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Morbyd:
You have no idea how proud that made me feel. I have lived in a few places around the world, and wherever I was I always blended in perfectly, but everywhere I was an outsider in one way or the other. When I was in Saudi Arabia, I was an outsider, as I was an Iranian, and my family were Shiite muslims. Pakistan was extremely friendly, but I was still an outsider as I spoke Urdu with a "funny" accent.
However, when I reached Texas I was totally blown away by their attitude, which was "we do not care where you are from; now you are a Texan, blend in and live like one of us or get the heck out". I thought that was the coolest idea as I have always been that way. In 4 years time, I was not only elected the President of the Engineering Students body but, I was the first person who had ever come from abroad and become the Prez and be awarded the Outstanding Student Leadership Award by the College of Engineering. In fact, I believe I blended in so well, that some of my friends who were from Pakistan used to (jokingly) call me a coconut (brown on the outside, white on the inside). I have never been or will never be the type who tries to be (or seek out) their "own" people (whatever that means). It is far more important that I get along with one on the basis of personality and interests than skin color, race, etc.
Having lived in TX and CA, I would say that TX makes a far greater effort to assimilate everyone than CA. I think that is very important as it greatly helps cut down the "us vs. them" barrier. Assimilation is 2-way street, and it has to take place across the board. Had I restricted myself it would never have happened. Usually when people say that how come folks can be so this and so that when they have lived in the UK, US, etc. their entire lives, my take is that if one does not fully mix with others and remains with "their own people" it does not matter whether one is in the another country or their native country. If you were to just mix with Americans only, then what difference does it make whether you are in Moscow or DC or wherever?
All in all, I am very proud to be an American.
You have no idea how proud that made me feel. I have lived in a few places around the world, and wherever I was I always blended in perfectly, but everywhere I was an outsider in one way or the other. When I was in Saudi Arabia, I was an outsider, as I was an Iranian, and my family were Shiite muslims. Pakistan was extremely friendly, but I was still an outsider as I spoke Urdu with a "funny" accent.
However, when I reached Texas I was totally blown away by their attitude, which was "we do not care where you are from; now you are a Texan, blend in and live like one of us or get the heck out". I thought that was the coolest idea as I have always been that way. In 4 years time, I was not only elected the President of the Engineering Students body but, I was the first person who had ever come from abroad and become the Prez and be awarded the Outstanding Student Leadership Award by the College of Engineering. In fact, I believe I blended in so well, that some of my friends who were from Pakistan used to (jokingly) call me a coconut (brown on the outside, white on the inside). I have never been or will never be the type who tries to be (or seek out) their "own" people (whatever that means). It is far more important that I get along with one on the basis of personality and interests than skin color, race, etc.
Having lived in TX and CA, I would say that TX makes a far greater effort to assimilate everyone than CA. I think that is very important as it greatly helps cut down the "us vs. them" barrier. Assimilation is 2-way street, and it has to take place across the board. Had I restricted myself it would never have happened. Usually when people say that how come folks can be so this and so that when they have lived in the UK, US, etc. their entire lives, my take is that if one does not fully mix with others and remains with "their own people" it does not matter whether one is in the another country or their native country. If you were to just mix with Americans only, then what difference does it make whether you are in Moscow or DC or wherever?
All in all, I am very proud to be an American.
Morbyd
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True... I've always tried to have a few American friends while living abroad because you need that connection to the motherland, but also to have a good number of local friends. Otherwise, there's little use in living abroad!LagunaBeachCA said:
My wife (who's from Russia) really liked Texas when we were there for a wedding last January. She was impressed with how people live and let live.
