Election 2011

How did we get to a point where lefties/liberals are voting out lib dems with glee in revenge for the cuts and the tories get away with it? I mean wtf?:cry:

because the majority are like children who dont like the game being played?

Jesus. Look at what the LibDims have done in power! Pupil premium, raising of income tax threshold...

It's all about compromise. Time for the LibDims to learn what that word means! :lol:
 
It's all about compromise. Time for the LibDims to learn what that word means! :lol:

Nope, it's time for a revolution. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb4tYOk8GE

It will be interesting to see how many pseudo wannabe Tories are still singing the praises of George Osbourne when they are queuing up in the soup kitchens.....


What did Labour do wrong?

Took the country into an illegal war.
Didn't give the country a vote on some EU issues, that was pretty sh*t tbh.
Otherwise, most have never had it so good.

I am a converted Tory for the record. Cameron opened my eyes, biggest sleazebag ever (Clegg has since usurped him!).
 
dilemma for Cameron - does he:

a/ help salmond with his independence drive - effectively wiping out Labour at westminster and ensuring Tory dominance in England for years (decades?)

or

b/ fight to preserve the Union and this thing called 'Great Britain' to the death


:?:
 
dilemma for Cameron - does he:

a/ help salmond with his independence drive - effectively wiping out Labour at westminster and ensuring Tory dominance in England for years (decades?)

or

b/ fight to preserve the Union and this thing called 'Great Britain' to the death


:?:

Please a/

End of the Barnett formula, resolution of the West Lothian question + no more subsidising free prescriptions and university North of the border. Winning :D

Although we did steal their oil apparently so perhaps it's fair. Plus our nuclear subs dock there. Ehh idk could be problematic.
 
The UK is in surprisingly good shape compared with the majority of economies we could realistically be compared with, as Gordon Brown predicted. I used to dislike him greatly, he did the right thing spending out of the recession, there was no other way. Unless you tread the tried and tested Conservative route of making the streets home to tens of thousands of people, confining yet another generation into poverty.

who are you comparing us with? we aren't in good shape compared to our peers. our only saving grace is that we are not part of the eurozone.

gordon brown couldn't predict what time the next day starts. see the price of gold for some evidence of that. the man's incompetence knows no bounds and unfortunately his financial legacy will be with this country for some time.

you go on to mention homelessness. i hope this is a sweeping statement. homeless figures are difficult to quantify - i would be keen to see some evidence to back the claim up.

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with regard to scotland i don't see anything happening on this for some time. they first have to ween themselves off the state that they supposedly don't need. personally, i'd be happy to see them get their independence - they literally bring nothing to the table bar distorting our parliament.
 
ben, sounds like you are living in the days when the sun never set on the empire.

Post 2007 banking crash, the UK was hardly top of the tables when it came to average standard of living and most other economic barometers. I would be interested to know which countries you considered our peers, and those who ARE in better shape than the UK right now? France, err nope, Germany, err nope, so we get to countries like Switzerland and other unshakable European countries and we are not comparing like for like.

The US is screwed, big time, whilst money in general is becoming worthless, the dollar is becoming the leper currency. They will lose AAA before long, once QE and it's effects end, we could be in for some real fireworks.

Of course there was a c*ck up with the selling of the gold, not half as calamitous as Major / Lamont going toe to toe with George Soros:lol:

As for the sweeping statement about homelessness, not easy to measure but it doesn't take a quantum leap to convert the house repossession rates of the early 90's into something half meaningful in the context. For the record the repossession rate of approx 50,000+ per annum early 90's makes the current numbers seem insignificant. There will be figures available somewhere from the DSS et al, time prevents looking for this stuff.

It hardly fills one with confidence to learn the growth stimulated by Gordon Brown to get the country out of recession has been derailed so soon by the new triple axis of evil; Cameron, Clegg and Osbourne.
 
The figures out today show the German economy steaming ahead, France not far behind.:rolleyes:

Germany's economy will be strong based on exports they have less of a deficit, France has a strong economy also. This is just an economic wave (the trough of the wave) the upside or crest is on the way.
 
Both France and Germany have huge deficits, worse than the UK as a % of GDP (or were early 2010). Not sure about France but German households are not saddled with anything like so much personal debt as the uk. Sadly we could be heading for the dreaded double dip with the fear created by the new government.

However it's sliced and diced, some bumpy time ahead. Interestingly I read a comment from the German chancellor suggesting the Euro has been the saving grace of their economy:confused:
 
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