dj's turning to cd decks
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DJ NEXUS
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crofty said:ok but have you TRIED IT OUT FOR YOURSELF YET???????
you've managed to find a review written by someone who is obviously very biased toward vinyl.
it really is a case of try it and make your own mind up though.
No as I stated c.d. decks are rare in my section of the world. My bias was against the belt driven part. I would love to play on a set because as I stated this is the way technology is headed. I`m not against c.d.`s,actually the reason that I read this thread in the first place was to learn some new information about them. If you read the review the person was not biased. He only stated the same thing others have said. Some people prefer vinyl while others like the conveince of c.d.`s.
When the oppurtunity for me to play on a set of c.d. decks( Technics I hope since they are direct drive) comes along I will gladly give them a spin.
Peace...Nexus
DJ Soulman
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The old Morris Minor 1000 has great sentimental value for me 
, it was the first car I ever owned when learning to drive over 30 years ago. I love seeing them out on the road being driven by bearded enthusiasts as I pass by in my turbo charged, four wheel drive, air-conditioned Toyota Celica GT4 with ten speaker surround sound system blasting , but, I don't want to drive one daily again, I know what I would prefer to drive.
I've deejayed for over 27 years
, more than 20 with vinyl. I still buy vinyl every week, but, it's recorded onto my laptop computer for gigging use. CD's, never did use them, went straight to computer over five years ago.
I would really enjoy working with vinyl again, however, only for sentimental reasons, or in a restricted type of venue i.e. only one style of music.
Even CD's are old technology nowadays, computer software has evolved tremendously over the last five years. Most people have the wrong impression about using computers to DJ with.
Regarding the software I use;
.....No, it's not a toy program for bedroom deejays
.....and No, it DOES NOT do the mixing automatically for you
.....oh, and all mp3's on my laptop are totally legal and paid for and NOT pirate downloads
I'm a self-employed DJ doing this for a living so I ain't just messing about!
I could go on and on with the garbage that's been thrown at me regularly by spotty teenagers who don't know what they're talking about.
What a load of codswallup!!! MP3's were recorded at lower bit rates and sounded 'mushy' five years ago due to restricted expensive hard drive space. These days, hard drive space is considerable cheaper and hard drives are huge in comparison. Any DJ worth his salt uses much higher quality mp3's to gig with.
I could jump on a plane to Ibiza, play the baddest prog house set at Space, the funkiest soulful set at El Divino, the most euphoric Trance at Es Paridis and then go to the West End in San Antonio and play in any of the bars with 70's, 80's commercial chart, party music or even R'n B all with the same laptop. That is the way forward! In fact I already do all of the above in my residency every week!
Here's my setup; http://www.djsoulman.f2s.com/P0000037.jpg
Oh, btw, the controller in the foreground is not a CD controller, it's a DMC-01 (Digital Media Controller) made by Numark that controls the computer software in a very similar fashion to a CD controller. This model is obselete now as they have a new controller, however, this one is working fine and is still supported by the software vendors. It has been working a minimum of 9 hours per week in my residency with the laptop since January 2002.
I have been at the cutting edge of computer deejaying for five years and find it hard getting accepted, yet, you guys are just debating accepting jocks using CD's!!!
Sheesh, give me a break! It's the 21st century don't you know!
, it was the first car I ever owned when learning to drive over 30 years ago. I love seeing them out on the road being driven by bearded enthusiasts as I pass by in my turbo charged, four wheel drive, air-conditioned Toyota Celica GT4 with ten speaker surround sound system blasting , but, I don't want to drive one daily again, I know what I would prefer to drive.I've deejayed for over 27 years
, more than 20 with vinyl. I still buy vinyl every week, but, it's recorded onto my laptop computer for gigging use. CD's, never did use them, went straight to computer over five years ago. I would really enjoy working with vinyl again, however, only for sentimental reasons, or in a restricted type of venue i.e. only one style of music.
Even CD's are old technology nowadays, computer software has evolved tremendously over the last five years. Most people have the wrong impression about using computers to DJ with.
Regarding the software I use;
.....No, it's not a toy program for bedroom deejays
.....and No, it DOES NOT do the mixing automatically for you
.....oh, and all mp3's on my laptop are totally legal and paid for and NOT pirate downloads
I'm a self-employed DJ doing this for a living so I ain't just messing about!
I could go on and on with the garbage that's been thrown at me regularly by spotty teenagers who don't know what they're talking about.
What a load of codswallup!!! MP3's were recorded at lower bit rates and sounded 'mushy' five years ago due to restricted expensive hard drive space. These days, hard drive space is considerable cheaper and hard drives are huge in comparison. Any DJ worth his salt uses much higher quality mp3's to gig with.
I could jump on a plane to Ibiza, play the baddest prog house set at Space, the funkiest soulful set at El Divino, the most euphoric Trance at Es Paridis and then go to the West End in San Antonio and play in any of the bars with 70's, 80's commercial chart, party music or even R'n B all with the same laptop. That is the way forward! In fact I already do all of the above in my residency every week!
Here's my setup; http://www.djsoulman.f2s.com/P0000037.jpg
Oh, btw, the controller in the foreground is not a CD controller, it's a DMC-01 (Digital Media Controller) made by Numark that controls the computer software in a very similar fashion to a CD controller. This model is obselete now as they have a new controller, however, this one is working fine and is still supported by the software vendors. It has been working a minimum of 9 hours per week in my residency with the laptop since January 2002.
I have been at the cutting edge of computer deejaying for five years and find it hard getting accepted, yet, you guys are just debating accepting jocks using CD's!!!
Sheesh, give me a break!
It's the 21st century don't you know! scottiedog
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dam0 said:
If money was not an issue what CD Deck would you buy / recommend??
dam0 said:
and just why exactly do you think you need a direct drive platter for a CD deck?????
it's not actually connected to the CD in any way, the cd is not being "spun" backwards and forwards as you touch the platter. its a virtual thing set up to emulate the feel of a turntable, it matters not one bit if it is direct drive or belt drive...
scottiedog said:
I bought the CDJ-1000 mk2, simply because most clubs with CD decks seem to have these. I think the new ones coming out have more features, but the pioneer deck seems to be the most tried and tested deck around at this point in time.
If I buy a 2nd deck, it'll probably be a technics, give em time to release a mk2
I'm with mark, go for a pioneer. Unless you're really into scratching then there's no real need to get something that is focused on emulating a turntable. The pioneer has the reliability and some great functions.
@crofty: The fact that you dont see the point in having direct drive on the platter just proves that u personally dont need it. The main thing the denon has going for it is it vinyl scratching emulation. The problem with having a belt driven platter is that its like scratching on belt drives. If you release pressure from the pad it takes longer to speed up than a DD. Obviously this isnt doing anything to the cd but your wrong in thinking it doesnt do anything to the sound. The deck is reading the speed of the platter so it can change the speed of the track accordingly. Obviously u can switch this mode off but then you wont have vinyl emulation.
Personally i don't see the point of emulating vinyl unless you want to scratch. Mixing with vinyl has many flaws but Dj's have learnt to cope with them. The digital age allows the user to have more precise control over the speed and pitch of a track yet people are much more bothered about how much it emulates vinyl.
@crofty: The fact that you dont see the point in having direct drive on the platter just proves that u personally dont need it. The main thing the denon has going for it is it vinyl scratching emulation. The problem with having a belt driven platter is that its like scratching on belt drives. If you release pressure from the pad it takes longer to speed up than a DD. Obviously this isnt doing anything to the cd but your wrong in thinking it doesnt do anything to the sound. The deck is reading the speed of the platter so it can change the speed of the track accordingly. Obviously u can switch this mode off but then you wont have vinyl emulation.
Personally i don't see the point of emulating vinyl unless you want to scratch. Mixing with vinyl has many flaws but Dj's have learnt to cope with them. The digital age allows the user to have more precise control over the speed and pitch of a track yet people are much more bothered about how much it emulates vinyl.
scottiedog
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Damo & Mark, I think you might have sold me with the Pioneer DJM 1000 MkII. I guess it's the same senario with the Technics 1210's, if all the clubs are using them then you really can't go wrong, which was my view when I bought my 1210's 6 months ago. The clubs obviously wouldn't buy crap and i'm sure a lot of DJ's would kick up a stink if they had to work with dodgy equipment. Cheers Fellas!!!
I'm trying to learn how to scratch James "Golden Boy" Zabiela stylee
He can do some seriously cool scratching on a CDJ-1000 without the need for a spinning platter..
I'm rubbish at scratching, but I find it a lot easier on the CDJ, cos you dont have to worry about skipping needles..
He can do some seriously cool scratching on a CDJ-1000 without the need for a spinning platter..
I'm rubbish at scratching, but I find it a lot easier on the CDJ, cos you dont have to worry about skipping needles..
Spot on! 1210's and the pioneers are pretty much industry standard at the moment. If you can, try and demo the top 3 cd players in a shop and see which one floats your boat. They're all pretty similar really but its worth giving the others a chance even though the pioneers come highly recommended
dam0 said:
true enough....i'm no scratch dj.
dam0 said:
far from it. with the Denon you are getting two players in one. for me, the main factor that persuaded me to buy it was the fact you can play 2 tracks off one cd, through seperate outputs.
add to this 4 hot cues PER TRACK, 4 loops PER TRACK, echo effects and 2 15 second samplers and it's easy to see why this is a good bet to add to an existing setup of 2 technics turntables.
to get the most out of the Pioneer's you really need 3 of them setup, if you're really gonna play around that is. one Denon does the same job, plus plenty more besides, as 2 Pioneer's.
by the way i am also a fan of the Pioneers.....lovely piece of kit - i also own the CDJ 800. i just couldn't afford 3 of them!!!
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DJ NEXUS
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[quoteI have been at the cutting edge of computer deejaying for five years and find it hard getting accepted, yet, you guys are just debating accepting jocks using CD's!!!
Sheesh, give me a break! It's the 21st century don't you know! [/quote]
I really believe that one day this dj thing will be more about a live act than spinnin tunes. With the technology you are playing with you could easily turn your set into a live p.a. . Then it will become alot more about creativity than it already is.
Sheesh, give me a break!
It's the 21st century don't you know! [/quote]I really believe that one day this dj thing will be more about a live act than spinnin tunes. With the technology you are playing with you could easily turn your set into a live p.a. . Then it will become alot more about creativity than it already is.
DJ Soulman
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Funnily enough, I play saxophone (tenor, alto and soprano).DJ NEXUS said:I have been at the cutting edge of computer deejaying for five years and find it hard getting accepted, yet, you guys are just debating accepting jocks using CD's!!!
Sheesh, give me a break!
I really believe that one day this dj thing will be more about a live act than spinnin tunes. With the technology you are playing with you could easily turn your set into a live p.a. . Then it will become alot more about creativity than it already is.
I have already played at musician's nights and some charity gigs with MIDI backings I created myself on computer then recorded onto MiniDisk and CD (for convenience, could easily be played from the same laptop I DJ with). It's just the next step to include it into a normal DJ set. These were both well known tunes and also a few of my own from my CD (had Virgin Records chasing me for 4 years don't you know
) (name dropper 
)I have been toying with the idea of adding 'live' sax over some of the tunes for about 3 years, just haven't had the 'bottle' to do it yet + I could do with a load of practise first. It needs to be done in a subtle way though. Sax players are notorious for over playing and spoiling the tunes (seen one do it before). I even had discussions with DJ Gee Moore at Bora Bora about it last year. It's also another way of being a unique DJ with something xtra to offer that others can't.
Where's me sax? Need a blast.............
