Clubbing atmosphere to change??

kimajy said:
Oh the irony ... seeing as he's one of the few DJs of that ilk who fails completely to make me want to dance ... on pretty much every occasion ! :roll: Sorry, but he joins Dubfire, Reboot, Dietz etc etc for yawn-fest of the year award.
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Exactly. I had the misfortune to witness his "skills" down Blue Marlin, UAE the other week. Really poor.
 
Jack87 said:
Sankeys is ace. It's got a lot going on this year, and with the very reasonable pricing it's well worth going. Probably my favourite Ibiza club after Space.
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Vodka Burn up to 18Euros by August last year if I remember right ... 3Euros more than Space and only 2Euros less than Amnesia :!: I'm thinking that the initial lower pricing spree has now run its course and Sankeys will become just as expensive as everywhere else - now they've got themselves established.
 
kimajy said:
Vodka Burn up to 18Euros by August last year if I remember right ... 3Euros more than Space and only 2Euros less than Amnesia :!: I'm thinking that the initial lower pricing spree has now run its course and Sankeys will become just as expensive as everywhere else - now they've got themselves established.
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Boo! Weirdly, Ushuaia is the best value for drinks, probably a little cheaper than anywhere else, plus the spirit measures are fricking huge. Looked to me like ~6 units or so. 8)
 
neilly303 said:
The crowd and atmosphere is definitely the deal breaker for me when going to a club. The last 4 times I've been to Ibiza the only clubs I've been to have been space and dc 10 and it won't change this year. Definitely my favourite clubs. Although there are some amazing line ups at amnesia this year already, its a terrible overhyped overcrowded club and as for Pacha, Ushuaia and bomba... I wouldn't go into these places for a piss. This isn't Ibiza for me.

Sankeys and the vista at privilege look good, hopefully check them out at some point...
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Sankeys is the closest thing you will get to a UK underground club in Ibiza. Only problem is massive lack of techno. I'd like to see DVS1 or Dustin Zahn there :) I can't speak for other European countries but where I'm from is a small place but over the last few years we've been spoiled with underground nights held in places which aren't clubs with DJs like DVS1, Nick Hoppner, Levon Vincent, Ben Klock, Cassy, Mathias Kaden etc

as for those saying Carl Craig is boring listen to his recent CLR podcast and then consider the fact that if you hang out at places called Blue Marlin you will be in receipt of boring music :D
 
I just think it's sad that so much energy is put into 'worrying about the change in clubbing culture'... Yes it would be nice if we could pick and choose who or what type bla bla bla of person goes to our fave club. But unless it's our houseparty, that's not going to happen.
dont pay attention to the things that get on your nerves... Listen to the music... Laugh with your friends... Create memories.
i sure as hell won't be letting roped off areas of clubs or lairy louts ruin my holiday or night out. Do you think they are talking about people like us this way?
Underground shmunderground... So long as I'm having a good time... Let everyone else get in on it too.
 
sophie_vip said:
Oh... And I sure as hell don't look for 'UK like underground clubs'... Why the hell would I want that???
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The comment was clearly meant for Neilly303. I wouldn't say something like that to someone with a username such as Sophie-VIP. Not everyone likes the same things as you do

Also your comment that it would be nice to pick and choose who goes to a club says a lot. Nobody here wants to pick and choose but VIP is a concept built upon being highly selective :)
 
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Lol there we go judging again. I have been on this forum a while. And indeed, I used to be into that VIP culture when I was younger. So what? I had a lot of fun.
Overground underground... VIP or stuck squished against a wall next to the loos cos we can't get space... So what...
we are all entitled to our opinion. And I was giving mine.
so now and again me and my friends enjoy table service in a club? Doesn't mean we don't enjoy sweat boxing in some club main floor too.
since I went to Ibiza for the first time 8 or 9 years ago, things have changed. So what. That's what happens in life.
im not trying to pick and argument. I hope that whoever gets overwhelmed by such things still enjoys their trip this year and overcomes their issue with it. It's because of people like us who love the island so much that it is what it is... Let the 'bandwagon' people do their thing... They will soon move on to the next phase, but we will still all be there. :)
 
Jojo.Xx said:
The comment was clearly meant for Neilly303. I wouldn't say something like that to someone with a username such as Sophie-VIP. Not everyone likes the same things as you do

Also your comment that it would be nice to pick and choose who goes to a club says a lot. Nobody here wants to pick and choose but VIP is a concept built upon being highly selective :)
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Oh, and wasn't digging at anyone in particular. I scan read the replies, picking out bits and pieces. Apologies if I offended or seemed to be.
 
I'm not judging people I simply said I wouldnt have aimed that comment at someone who had the words VIP in their name, and had spent the best part of their comments sticking up for VIP culture. That's just an availability heuristic. You kind of confirmed that I was wise not to aim the comment at you with your reply anyway. I feel that the reason you are missing the point is because you are scanning comments. The point being nobody cares who or what is in a club but band wagon jumpers have a higher proportion of people with attitude because they care less for music. What people are saying they don't like is that there are more aggravated incidents which are not welcomed, not the people. A particular underground night where im from which didn't advertise became a bit of a thing where everyone thought it was cool to be there and word got out. It was a techno night in a building underground which wasnt a night club and sold out within weeks of ticket release every time. One bank holiday it was full of boys in pink jumpers. They didn't even like techno hence it had emptied by 2 (which was a first) but there were fights starting and attitude all night til it emptied. That's what people are talking about here - not the fact that they aren't passionate enough per se
Also don't apologise to anyone I doubt any offence is taken - certainly not by me :)
 
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Jojo.Xx said:
Sankeys is the closest thing you will get to a UK underground club in Ibiza. Only problem is massive lack of techno. I'd like to see DVS1 or Dustin Zahn there :) I can't speak for other European countries but where I'm from is a small place but over the last few years we've been spoiled with underground nights held in places which aren't clubs with DJs like DVS1, Nick Hoppner, Levon Vincent, Ben Klock, Cassy, Mathias Kaden etc

as for those saying Carl Craig is boring listen to his recent CLR podcast and then consider the fact that if you hang out at places called Blue Marlin you will be in receipt of boring music :D
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I rate all the DJs you mention in Para 1 (a lot of the time) ... but ... just to check I wasn't being unfair or behind the times I used some of GB allowance and just downloaded said CC podcast and listened to it. The 1st 25 mins bored me senseless. The Steve Lawler remix of Layo & Bushwacka took a more interesting turn which lasted till the Paperclip People remix threw the whole thing off and the Mike Dearborn would have had me literally leaving the room. That strings of life arrangement is all well and good but it's a dancefloor clearer after a groovier vibe's been set up. The Robert Hood mix of Ben Sims' New Blood is a horrendous din .. and The Marcel Dettmann track is OK in the right context but a mere glimmer of hope, but all too late as the set's over by then.

All in all I thought the set was awful - badly put together, some truly horrendous moments, half a handful of reasonable tracks thrown in (rather clumsily) and undermined totally by what followed making me frustrated that he even had the audacity to use good material in such a dreadful way. As I say, every time I hear Carl Craig it makes me want to leave the room - and in fact I do. Often more than once after going back in to check and then being musically offended by how and what he plays. That's only my opinion of course !

Viz Blue Marlin, joking aside, for all people say about it (the Ibiza one of course) on the "TOWIE / Eurotrash" front, some great music does often get spun there especially in the mid-afternoon when you're chilling outside (at Yemanja next door of course, where you can hear the same music) after a nice swim in the sunshine over your (ahem..) healthy fruit smoothie. Really nice, completely appropriate for the time and setting and slowly burning away to get you thinking about building up to a night of fun. Later on indoors it depends, as always, on who is playing.
 
kimajy said:
just to check I wasn't being unfair or behind the times ............ audacity.
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You really do hold your opinion in high authority don't you :) can you explain why you think a full report from an amateur critic was required? I say this because you put a lot of effort into that lack-lustre mini essay but it wasn't written in a way that made me think it could be your profession. So I'm curious as to what purpose it serves. It is the most recent podcast, hence why I suggested it, however all you needed to say was that you still stand by what you said. The uninspiring egotistical drivel that followed was surplus to requirements! I'm inclined to agree about strings of life though as whilst it's a classic tune that everyone should appreciate, it had no place in that particular mix :)
 
^^ No effort at all really - just rolls off the tongue. Clearly you hold a different view so no need to get personal and derogatory about someone else expressing theirs. I'm not an "amateur critic" or a professional one, just expressing my opinion - having taken the time to listen to something properly rather than hold to a preconception from live sets I've heard in the past. Rather than pass things off as a one-liner I thought a more in-depth explanation of my view would be more meaningful, in the context of the composition and track selection.

What is egotistical is displaying an inverted feeling of personal criticism about views expressed towards an artist and not towards someone who has highlighted their work.
 
kimajy said:
^^ No effort at all really - just rolls off the tongue. Clearly you hold a different view so no need to get personal and derogatory about someone else expressing theirs. I'm not an "amateur critic" or a professional one, just expressing my opinion - having taken the time to listen to something properly rather than hold to a preconception from live sets I've heard in the past. Rather than pass things off as a one-liner I thought a more in-depth explanation of my view would be more meaningful, in the context of the composition and track selection.

What is egotistical is displaying an inverted feeling of personal criticism about views expressed towards an artist and not towards someone who has highlighted their work.
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By effort I meant the extent to which you felt the need to continue on and on. I don't want you revelling under the misconception that I've complimented you on your writing style :) I may have come across as being derogatory but that is because I thought the what you said was derogatory and uncalled for, and was put across in a manner as though it was the correct viewpoint (which is why I used the word egotistical). Our opinions differ but that doesn't mean either is more correct. I directed (not so much you but the other person) to the podcast as I thought maybe they had only heard CC's more housey sets. It wasn't meant in the sense of 'you are wrong, you must like what I like'. The point I was making was perhaps a DJ will not play their most driving set in a snobby beach club. Anyway... :D
 
Jojo.Xx said:
I may have come across as being derogatory but that is because I thought the what you said was derogatory and uncalled for
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I don't think what I said about the Carl Craig's CLR podcast was uncalled for at all. I've expressed just as derogatory an opinion about a recent set of Solomun's and a very complimentary opinion about another of his I still listen to. However, I've not heard any sets of Carl Craig for years which did anything for me. Anyway .... if you like it, fine. If I see CC behind the decks I probably leave to another room or another club. Each to their own.
 
You are slating why other people are at the events, yet your reason is because the event is underground? Surely you are contradicting yourself?

There are plenty of other events in which you can listen to deep house and techno without the current bandwagon of followers. Whereas if you are really there to see 'Jamie Jones' then you will have to ride it out until it isn't the 'in' thing to listen to anymore..
 
When you said 'you can't believe he had the audacity...' it suggested he had done something wrong and thus your opinion is the authority. Which is fine, if you want to think that then you must expect a discussion on why it is not. If you don't think that then maybe you should be more selective about the words you use, because that is how you come across. I'm not bothered about what you think of Solomun either for the record, I have no idea who he or she is other than seeing the name on here :) Lets leave it at that shall we, as you said each to their own I'm sure there are plenty of people who agree with us both :)
haha @kimajy not the above poster soz
 
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