Bill Gates - the modern day Robin Hood?

[Drew]

Re: ehhhhh

scoobie.....if your gonna do something good for others....why let others know what your doing......does bill want a big pat on the back.....dont tell others....just do it!

Like she said "Bill Gates has been giving vast amounts of his money away for years"

I don't remember him asking for a pat on the back before today's news.

 

[maurice]

mmmmm

how do you know hes been giving vast amounts away?.....

 

[Scoobie]

Re: ehhhhh

scoobie.....if your gonna do something good for others....why let others know what your doing......does bill want a big pat on the back.....dont tell others....just do it!

1) Because charities apply to his foundation for funding- a little diffcult to do if you don't know who to apply to.
2) Because in the interests of openess and transparency charities are required to publish where their money comes from/what they do with it.
3) Because his charitable organisation is hugely influential on the actions of other people in the charitable and private sectors due to his wealth and influence and by putting his name behind projects it encourages others, both individually and as companies to do the same
4) Because if he didn't you lot would all be moaning about what a stingy git he is.

 

[Scoobie]

Re: mmmmm

how do you know hes been giving vast amounts away?.....

I have worked in as a fundraiser in the charitable sector for years- its my job to know about these things

 

[stuie]

Re: ehhhhhh

Giving to the less fortunate is the cool celebrity thing to do in 2005 it seems. Maybe he should release a charity single.

ehhh giving to the poor in 2005!.....in all reality my dear chap....most of them dont do it out of genorosity....its done to gain max publicity....and no doubt something to do with tax breaks!.

FFS!

Damned if you do and damned if you dont!

Why oh why do you think Bill Gates needs to pull a stunt to get publicity?

 

[maurice]

reminds me of a...

somwhere in the bible theres a saying.....never let your left-hand know....what your right hand is doing!!.....here is mr generous bill gates and his beloved charity saying to the endemically corrupt african goverments.....we will help.....then the govts get the aid....and put it straight in there pockets!mr joe public in sierra-leonne never see a peanut!...buy aid....and personally give it to the people that count!.they shall be known.....by there actions.and deeds!

 

[Scoobie]

Re: reminds me of a...

somwhere in the bible theres a saying.....never let your left-hand know....what your right hand is doing!!.....here is mr generous bill gates and his beloved charity saying to the endemically corrupt african goverments.....we will help.....then the govts get the aid....and put it straight in there pockets!mr joe public in sierra-leonne never see a peanut!...buy aid....and personally give it to the people that count!.they shall be known.....by there actions.and deeds!

wh

where has anyone said he gives money to African governments? By your reckoning Oxfam are all evil and going to hell

 

[silvia]

Re: ehhhhhh

FFS!

Damned if you do and damned if you dont!

Why oh why do you think Bill Gates needs to pull a stunt to get publicity?

There's people who thinks that your philantropic actions doesn't need to be public and Drew, I've heard years ago about Bill the good boy, probably you just discovered yesterday but trust me, it's not a new

 

[maurice]

ehhhhh

oxfam are not stupid.....they personnaly give direct to the man on the ground.....transparency international will be able to tell you directly about corrupt african govts.....

 

[stuie]

Re: ehhhhhh

There's people who thinks that your philantropic actions doesn't need to be public

Scoobie has just explained this very well about 4/5 posts previously.

 

[Scoobie]

How many people on this board replied to the post about the Tsunami appeal by posting that they have/are giving a donation to the appeal?

Surely thatsd the same thing?

Personally, as someone who has struggled to find funding for fantastic charities doing innovative and much needed work I welcome anything that makes my life and that of other fundraisers a little easier. The fact is that without his contribution many of these projects would not have taken place, and I doubt that the people who have benefited give two hoots about Mr Gates motives.

 

[Scoobie]

Re: ehhhhh

oxfam are not stupid.....they personnaly give direct to the man on the ground.....transparency international will be able to tell you directly about corrupt african govts.....

FFS Bill Gates has never given any money to an African government. He gives it to agencies like Oxfam carrying out projects in Africa. Trying reading something about a subject before ranting on about it!

Oh...and I know lots about the African situation thanks

 

[Drew]

Re: ehhhhhh

FFS!

Damned if you do and damned if you dont!

Why oh why do you think Bill Gates needs to pull a stunt to get publicity?

There's people who thinks that your philantropic actions doesn't need to be public and Drew, I've heard years ago about Bill the good boy, probably you just discovered yesterday but trust me, it's not a new

See above ^, i said i saw the documentary 2/3 years ago. Maybe longer?

WTF!

 

[silvia]

Re: ehhhhhh

FFS!

Damned if you do and damned if you dont!

Why oh why do you think Bill Gates needs to pull a stunt to get publicity?

There's people who thinks that your philantropic actions doesn't need to be public and Drew, I've heard years ago about Bill the good boy, probably you just discovered yesterday but trust me, it's not a new

See above ^, i said i saw the documentary 2/3 years ago. Maybe longer?

WTF!

Can you please forgive my misunderestood? As soon as I get my proficency degree in english I get back to you

 

[maurice]

im sure you have struggled!

im sure you have struggled to find funding!.....if only everyone was doing the right thing!.....then there would be no need for charities!.i mentioned africa....only because the poor africans never seem to have nothing.not because the richer countries dont give...they do.they give money....and it goes straight into the back pocket of your local MP in downtown freetown(sierra-leonne).they all steal from there own poor...culture driven i may add.bill gates could solve africas problems at the stroke of a pen......pps my flat mates a refugee from sierra-leonne....hes not here just now....but he says....too many charities giving money to govts....rather than giving aid directly to the poor!.

 

[silvia]

Re: ehhhhh

1) Because charities apply to his foundation for funding- a little diffcult to do if you don't know who to apply to.
2) Because in the interests of openess and transparency charities are required to publish where their money comes from/what they do with it.
3) Because his charitable organisation is hugely influential on the actions of other people in the charitable and private sectors due to his wealth and influence and by putting his name behind projects it encourages others, both individually and as companies to do the same
4) Because if he didn't you lot would all be moaning about what a stingy git he is.

Scoobie, if I give a big amount of money to a charity foundation or whatever, do I have the right to not be public?

 

[Scoobie]

Re: ehhhhh

1) Because charities apply to his foundation for funding- a little diffcult to do if you don't know who to apply to.
2) Because in the interests of openess and transparency charities are required to publish where their money comes from/what they do with it.
3) Because his charitable organisation is hugely influential on the actions of other people in the charitable and private sectors due to his wealth and influence and by putting his name behind projects it encourages others, both individually and as companies to do the same
4) Because if he didn't you lot would all be moaning about what a stingy git he is.

Scoobie, if I give a big amount of money to a charity foundation or whatever, do I have the right to not be public if you know what I mean?

Yes you do, but if you have your own foundation, which you are on the board of, as Bill Gates is, you are required to release the names of the trustees, and the accounts showing what you have given, and to whom.

I suppose he could give huge chunks of money to charities without using his foundation, but I don't see why he shouldn't choose the projects that his money is spent on. Accountability to funders is an excellent way of insuring accountability, value for money and delivery of projects to a high standard and on time.

 

[silvia]

Re: ehhhhh

Yes you do, but if you have your own foundation, which you are on the board of, as Bill Gates is, you are required to release the names of the trustees, and the accounts showing what you have given, and to whom.

I suppose he could give huge chunks of money to charities without using his foundation, but I don't see why he shouldn't choose the projects that his money is spent on. Accountability to funders is an excellent way of insuring accountability, value for money and delivery of projects to a high standard and on time.

And does he get lots of fiscal benefits by having a fundation or giving money for philantropic causes?

 

[MARKB]

He'd get a lot more fiscal benefits by keeping the £400m himself, that's for damn sure.



Silvia you seem really aggessive today, you okay or did Bill gates steal your first boyfriend or something?

I'm only joking before you start on me

 

[Scoobie]

Re: ehhhhh

Yes you do, but if you have your own foundation, which you are on the board of, as Bill Gates is, you are required to release the names of the trustees, and the accounts showing what you have given, and to whom.

I suppose he could give huge chunks of money to charities without using his foundation, but I don't see why he shouldn't choose the projects that his money is spent on. Accountability to funders is an excellent way of insuring accountability, value for money and delivery of projects to a high standard and on time.

And does he get lots of fiscal benefits by having a fundation or giving money for philantropic causes?

Yes, but there are thousands and thousands of foundations in the US alone- this is not an unusual case, it is the norm in charitable giving. I don't think Bill needs the money

Having a foundation means that his charitable giving is accountable to government rules and regulations, and that it can employ experts in fields such as public health and HIV to assess and monitor projects. His foundation doesn't really operate just as a means to give away money, but more like a charity that dispenses grants to projects working in its fields of interest.