titipornstar
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HAVE BEEN TOLD BY A MATE THAT YOU CAN GET THIS NEW STUFF FROM HEALTH SHOP AND APPARENTLY GETS RID OF COMEDOWNS. If so RESULT! has anyone tried it?
5-HTP
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Disco stu
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guys what are these magic "beans" called?
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Disco stu
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opps 
IBIZALISA said:not sure if its stil on but there was a sale on in H&B and they were doing them half price £7.50 instead of £15, so good time to stock up
That's what we did. Got 4 bottles of the stuff to take with us!
I find it quite effective - but make sure you take your vitmains and minerals as well!
puppylover
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also take magnesium - we did along with Vit C tablets and 5HTP not a single bad day and certainly no bad feelings on arriving back in blighty!!
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N8
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Right, i've done loads of research on 5 HTP after finding it didnt aggree with me and caused me a lot of messed up dreams and sleep paralysis much worse than normal. Cant be bothered to go over everything about it but here are the basics
It increases your seratonin levels. This is good before you take ecstasy as it makes it work better. So preloading with HTP is good. Do this the day or two before you go out. This is fine for going out on fri/sat like at home.
If you dont take E that often, and dont go out all the time then HTP is also good to take after clubbing as it restores depleted seratonin levels that your body isnt used to being without. This stops comedowns to some extent, esp whtn combined with other vitamins.
However - if you take a lot of pills week in week out, and go out a lot then it can be dangerous. Your body IS used to having to produce extra seratonin to combat the effects of E depleting it. Taking the HTP can then lead to the over production of seratonin which can cause nasty side effects. This is basically when you have 'weird' kind of dreams, its cause the high seratonin levels are causing this. This can also cause much worse sleep paralysis as your brain finds it hard to wake out of the hightened dreaming state caused by the over production of seratonin.
Another danger or HTP, and no one has been able to say why this happens in only some people is that their bodies become reliant on it to some extent to produce seratonin. When they stop taking it they may suffer depression, and excessive comedown. So then they may take more to combat this, leading to a viscious circle of addiction much like other illegal drugs!!!
If you're of the sort that doesnt go out that often or take E that often then suddenly taking loads and then loads of HTP like when on holiday can lead to the side effects i've mentioned above.
I wouldnt reccomend taking it that much on holiday. Perhaps one tablet a day in the evenings before you go out to try to keep seratonin levels at stable levels throughout your holiday.
It increases your seratonin levels. This is good before you take ecstasy as it makes it work better. So preloading with HTP is good. Do this the day or two before you go out. This is fine for going out on fri/sat like at home.
If you dont take E that often, and dont go out all the time then HTP is also good to take after clubbing as it restores depleted seratonin levels that your body isnt used to being without. This stops comedowns to some extent, esp whtn combined with other vitamins.
However - if you take a lot of pills week in week out, and go out a lot then it can be dangerous. Your body IS used to having to produce extra seratonin to combat the effects of E depleting it. Taking the HTP can then lead to the over production of seratonin which can cause nasty side effects. This is basically when you have 'weird' kind of dreams, its cause the high seratonin levels are causing this. This can also cause much worse sleep paralysis as your brain finds it hard to wake out of the hightened dreaming state caused by the over production of seratonin.
Another danger or HTP, and no one has been able to say why this happens in only some people is that their bodies become reliant on it to some extent to produce seratonin. When they stop taking it they may suffer depression, and excessive comedown. So then they may take more to combat this, leading to a viscious circle of addiction much like other illegal drugs!!!
If you're of the sort that doesnt go out that often or take E that often then suddenly taking loads and then loads of HTP like when on holiday can lead to the side effects i've mentioned above.
I wouldnt reccomend taking it that much on holiday. Perhaps one tablet a day in the evenings before you go out to try to keep seratonin levels at stable levels throughout your holiday.
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N8
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That doenst happen to that many people, didnt mean to make it sound that bad. Also,forgot to say this before, some people are fine taking it all the time and dont suffer the dream/increased sleep paralysis side effects. Most likely cause for them it can help their body to keep a healthy seratonin balance, it works well with their body. However its these people that are more at risk of their body becoming to some extent reliant on it.
I think the main danger is that in the last couple of years its been banded about a lot that taking HTP is like a magic pill cure for comedowns. A lot of people (including myself) just took it without knowing the science behind it. I then put the side effects i was getting just down to the fact i was going out a lot, and caning it etc. Then when i started to read more about it i understood a bit more and was able to adjust my useage of HTP to better fit my needs...
I think the main danger is that in the last couple of years its been banded about a lot that taking HTP is like a magic pill cure for comedowns. A lot of people (including myself) just took it without knowing the science behind it. I then put the side effects i was getting just down to the fact i was going out a lot, and caning it etc. Then when i started to read more about it i understood a bit more and was able to adjust my useage of HTP to better fit my needs...
N8, Preloading, what are you talking about? Over production of seratonin? may suffer depression?
If you were talking about real L-tryptophan then you might get the side effects you mentioned.
Like anything in life to much of anything is not good, just follow directions.
5-HTP supplementation has been shown to be effective in treating mild to moderate depression.
Studies show that 5-HTP enhances serotonin synthesis, which increases pain tolerance and sleep quality.
5-HTP has reduced the time required to fall asleep and improved quality of sleep for those suffering from insomnia.
5-HTP reduced the frequency and severity of migraine headaches in clinical trials.
5-hydroxytryptophan creates a fuller feeling - satisfying a person's appetite sooner.
If you were talking about real L-tryptophan then you might get the side effects you mentioned.
Like anything in life to much of anything is not good, just follow directions.
5-HTP supplementation has been shown to be effective in treating mild to moderate depression.
Studies show that 5-HTP enhances serotonin synthesis, which increases pain tolerance and sleep quality.
5-HTP has reduced the time required to fall asleep and improved quality of sleep for those suffering from insomnia.
5-HTP reduced the frequency and severity of migraine headaches in clinical trials.
5-hydroxytryptophan creates a fuller feeling - satisfying a person's appetite sooner.
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N8
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Yeah thats the standard clinical trials and that, newer studies need to be looked at where htp is taken alongside ecstasy which produces the different effects i mentioned....
i've taken it before, im currently taking st johns wood as it also produces seratonin and is alot cheaper
i must admit of took loads in ibiza and did not feel right when I got back, then again this could be because of other antics..
In future i think ill take a few before hand, and maybe a few a few days after clubbing.
I was once told that even after clubbing ur brain is still shooting out seratonin therefore to try and put it straight back can damage you..
So many theories I dunno what to believe anymore
i must admit of took loads in ibiza and did not feel right when I got back, then again this could be because of other antics..
In future i think ill take a few before hand, and maybe a few a few days after clubbing.
I was once told that even after clubbing ur brain is still shooting out seratonin therefore to try and put it straight back can damage you..
So many theories I dunno what to believe anymore