JacYourBody
New Member
Sounds like a bit of a god send really! Will be packing a supply on my trip in September - espcially because I get back Sunday night and am working on the Monday morning - balls!
5 HTP?? Before and after??
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kes said:
I don't know about buying it from chemists only from Holland and Barratts where it's called 5-HTP.
And that includes:
5HTP (from Grifforia Seed Extract)
Niacin
Vitamin B6
Magnesium
Valerian Root
That's why some people find it aids sleep the day/night after as well, cos of the Valerian Root in it.
puppylover
Active Member
it doesnt exactly increase seratonin levels - you're body only makes a certain amount before its depleted, ie canning it! What it actually does, is strengthen the seratonin you have in your body (super seratonin I call it)......
kes said:
5 htp is the chemical your body converts to seratonin and is found naturally, but in small amounts, in certain foods. It takes your body ages to produce seratonin which isn't a problem on a normal day as you use so little of it. When you force the whole lot out of your brain in one mad sesh it's a good few days before you can get your levels back to normal so taking 5 htp supplements speeds the whole process up and lessens the comedown. I swear by them. Like everyone says H&B are you best bet for buying them.
Also make sure you take a load of vitamin C the next morning to strip all the crap off your receptors, about 1000mg. Not that I know what any of you are talking about, of course!
If you want to get really serious then:
T-24, 36, 48, 64 hours: 100 mg 5-htp
T-12: 400 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-4: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-0.5: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
500-1000 mg L-Tyrosine (See notes below)
500-1500 mg DLPA (See notes below)
8 Oz High Glycemic Juice
T:
T+3: 1000 mg Vitamin C
150 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
200 iu Vitamin E
T+6: 1000 mg Vitamin C
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
## mg SSRI (Lexapro, Zoloft, Prozac etc.) Take the smallest prescribed dosage available.
T+12: 200 mg 5-htp
T+24: 150 mg 5-htp
T+36: 100 mg 5-htp
Follow w/ 50 - 100 mg 5-htp daily for 3-4 days after
1.5 - 3 mg Melatonin before bedtime
A tad bit about each supplement:
--5-HTP is the direct precursor to serotonin.
--Vitamin B-6 helps to convert 5-HTP into serotonin.
--Vitamin C, E, & ALA are antioxidants reducing or prohibiting neurotoxicity AND reducing tolerance between doses (proven in rats anyway).
--L-Tyrosine & DLPA are direct precusors to dopamine (released along with serotonin). More dopamine = generally better I won't get into the exact details but dopamine can and does cause neurotoxicity when its still floating around in excessive levels and is present. If you take these be aware of the consequences (ie: ensure antioxidants are taken to limit damage or just don't give your dopamine a boost to begin with).
--100 mg Magnesium several times throughout the day of can help the jaw muscles relax a bit.
--SSRIs are a bit too complicated to explain and I feel like I've typed too much already. In short, it prevents the from releasing more serotonin and dopamine on already low levels.
There is tons of research including abstracts, testing results, etc on the net...mostly done on rats but none the less, it's there if you want to seek it and read it for yourself. Does it work?? I don't know. Will it help? Perhaps. Can it do more good than harm? Probably.
Disclaimer: Drugs are bad, MMmmmkay.
T-24, 36, 48, 64 hours: 100 mg 5-htp
T-12: 400 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-4: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-0.5: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
500-1000 mg L-Tyrosine (See notes below)
500-1500 mg DLPA (See notes below)
8 Oz High Glycemic Juice
T:
T+3: 1000 mg Vitamin C
150 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
200 iu Vitamin E
T+6: 1000 mg Vitamin C
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
## mg SSRI (Lexapro, Zoloft, Prozac etc.) Take the smallest prescribed dosage available.
T+12: 200 mg 5-htp
T+24: 150 mg 5-htp
T+36: 100 mg 5-htp
Follow w/ 50 - 100 mg 5-htp daily for 3-4 days after
1.5 - 3 mg Melatonin before bedtime
A tad bit about each supplement:
--5-HTP is the direct precursor to serotonin.
--Vitamin B-6 helps to convert 5-HTP into serotonin.
--Vitamin C, E, & ALA are antioxidants reducing or prohibiting neurotoxicity AND reducing tolerance between doses (proven in rats anyway).
--L-Tyrosine & DLPA are direct precusors to dopamine (released along with serotonin). More dopamine = generally better
I won't get into the exact details but dopamine can and does cause neurotoxicity when its still floating around in excessive levels and is present. If you take these be aware of the consequences (ie: ensure antioxidants are taken to limit damage or just don't give your dopamine a boost to begin with). --100 mg Magnesium several times throughout the day of can help the jaw muscles relax a bit.
--SSRIs are a bit too complicated to explain and I feel like I've typed too much already. In short, it prevents the
from releasing more serotonin and dopamine on already low levels. There is tons of research including abstracts, testing results, etc on the net...mostly done on rats but none the less, it's there if you want to seek it and read it for yourself. Does it work?? I don't know. Will it help? Perhaps. Can it do more good than harm? Probably.
Disclaimer: Drugs are bad, MMmmmkay.
copperband
New Member
j_love01 said:If you want to get really serious then:
T-24, 36, 48, 64 hours: 100 mg 5-htp
T-12: 400 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-4: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-0.5: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
500-1000 mg L-Tyrosine (See notes below)
500-1500 mg DLPA (See notes below)
8 Oz High Glycemic Juice
T:
T+3: 1000 mg Vitamin C
150 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
200 iu Vitamin E
T+6: 1000 mg Vitamin C
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
10 mg SSRI (Lexapro, Zoloft, Prozac etc.)
T+12: 200 mg 5-htp
T+24: 150 mg 5-htp
T+36: 100 mg 5-htp
Follow w/ 50 - 100 mg 5-htp daily for 3-4 days after
1.5 - 3 mg Melatonin before bedtime
A tad bit about each supplement:
--5-HTP is the direct precursor to serotonin.
--Vitamin B-6 helps to convert 5-HTP into serotonin.
--Vitamin C, E, & ALA are antioxidants reducing or prohibiting neurotoxicity AND reducing tolerance between doses (proven in rats anyway).
--L-Tyrosine & DLPA are direct precusors to dopamine (released along with serotonin). More dopamine = generally better
--100 mg Magnesium several times throughout the day of can help the jaw muscles relax a bit.
--SSRIs are a bit too complicated to explain and I feel like I've typed too much already. In short, it prevents the
There is tons of research including abstracts, testing results, etc on the net...mostly done on rats but none the less, it's there if you want to seek it and read it for yourself. Does it work?? I don't know. Will it help? Perhaps. Can it do more good than harm? Probably.
Disclaimer: Drugs are bad, MMmmmkay.
A very informed write up nice one
Do you work in the pharma. business?I agree with you that going into SSRI's would take a lot of describing what I wouldn't recommend is anyone taking prescribed medication from someone else and using it.There are lots of different drug molocules out there and different strengths that fall under the banner SSRI they will have (hopefully) been decided upon by the doctor after careful consultation.
On the subject of dopamine I have heard about people taking Levadopa pre clubbing, what do you know about this?
copperband said:A very informed write up nice one
I agree with you that going into SSRI's would take a lot of describing what I wouldn't recommend is anyone taking prescribed medication from someone else and using it.There are lots of different drug molocules out there and different strengths that fall under the banner SSRI they will have (hopefully) been decided upon by the doctor after careful consultation.
On the subject of dopamine I have heard about people taking Levadopa pre clubbing, what do you know about this?
No, I just have a very close special someone that works in the medical field. They've done some of the testing on
& supplementation. I was pretty eager to read, interpret, & understand the results. As far as SSRIs, a small dose shouldn't be harmful unless you are taking MAOIs...and if you are taking MAOIs and taking
then we have bigger problems, MAJOR PROBLEMS. NEVER do that! I'll edit the dosage on the SSRIs, it shouldn't be 5-10mg (that's just the dosage I know of for the SSRIs I'm familiar with), it should be the lowest dose available of the prescribed SSRI. Good call!Not real sure about Levadopa but I can get some info for you soon. I'll let you know what I find out.
copperband
New Member
j_love01 said:copperband said:A very informed write up nice one
I agree with you that going into SSRI's would take a lot of describing what I wouldn't recommend is anyone taking prescribed medication from someone else and using it.There are lots of different drug molocules out there and different strengths that fall under the banner SSRI they will have (hopefully) been decided upon by the doctor after careful consultation.
On the subject of dopamine I have heard about people taking Levadopa pre clubbing, what do you know about this?
No, I just have a very close special someone that works in the medical field. They've done some of the testing on
As far as SSRIs, a small dose shouldn't be harmful unless you are taking MAOIs...and if you are taking MAOIs and taking
Not real sure about Levadopa but I can get some info for you soon. I'll let you know what I find out.
Actually J love I'm not sure you're far off with the dosages of SSRI's most people would be started on a dose of 20mg, sometimes 10mg is used as a Titration dose (get people started gradually) and from 20mg people would go up to about 80mg or more depending to their response at lower doses.
Personally I'd say leave well alone as all the SSRI's have different sideeffects, some are cleaner than others - Prozac being the "dirtiest"
Levadopa is used to treat Parkinsons disease patients and is like serotonin a neurotransmitter.It is important to keep them all balenced and it was on that basis I think that some trial work was done in using MDMA with PD patients.
j_love01 said:If you want to get really serious then:
T-24, 36, 48, 64 hours: 100 mg 5-htp
T-12: 400 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-4: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 iu Vitamin E
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
T-0.5: 500 mg Vitamin C
200 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
100 mg Vitamin B Complex
500-1000 mg L-Tyrosine (See notes below)
500-1500 mg DLPA (See notes below)
8 Oz High Glycemic Juice
T:
T+3: 1000 mg Vitamin C
150 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
200 iu Vitamin E
T+6: 1000 mg Vitamin C
100 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
200 mg Vitamin B Complex
## mg SSRI (Lexapro, Zoloft, Prozac etc.) Take the smallest prescribed dosage available.
T+12: 200 mg 5-htp
T+24: 150 mg 5-htp
T+36: 100 mg 5-htp
Follow w/ 50 - 100 mg 5-htp daily for 3-4 days after
1.5 - 3 mg Melatonin before bedtime
A tad bit about each supplement:
--5-HTP is the direct precursor to serotonin.
--Vitamin B-6 helps to convert 5-HTP into serotonin.
--Vitamin C, E, & ALA are antioxidants reducing or prohibiting neurotoxicity AND reducing tolerance between doses (proven in rats anyway).
--L-Tyrosine & DLPA are direct precusors to dopamine (released along with serotonin). More dopamine = generally better
--100 mg Magnesium several times throughout the day of can help the jaw muscles relax a bit.
--SSRIs are a bit too complicated to explain and I feel like I've typed too much already. In short, it prevents the
There is tons of research including abstracts, testing results, etc on the net...mostly done on rats but none the less, it's there if you want to seek it and read it for yourself. Does it work?? I don't know. Will it help? Perhaps. Can it do more good than harm? Probably.
Disclaimer: Drugs are bad, MMmmmkay.
That's alot of popping...
