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sandi said:
the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.
I think that its true for many people that rememberance day and Iraq are two very different issues.
I don't feel for one minute that wearing a poppy shows some kind of tacit affirmation of British involvement in the war in Iraq.
Rather it shows an acknowledgement to, and appreciation of, the millions of ordinary men and women who have given their lives in wars over the last century and to date.
I don't feel for one minute that wearing a poppy shows some kind of tacit affirmation of British involvement in the war in Iraq.
Rather it shows an acknowledgement to, and appreciation of, the millions of ordinary men and women who have given their lives in wars over the last century and to date.
having a blonde day. 
Ok, here we go.
Firstly Robder, I don;t want to pour too much scorn on you because maybe your only crime is trying to be throwaway about something that means a lot to other people.
Perhaps stick to threads about horses, brownies, and imaginary friends. Without sounding harsh, it's not too much to ask for to appreciate that some people may be affected here (and if you aren't, then maybe you should be).
If your going to post on a thread like this, then IMO you should have the backbone to defend it. You are categorically WRONG (And I'll rarely say this about anyone elses feelings) with your views on this, as has been detailed (as if it wasn't f*cking obvious enough already) by other people.
As I said, it's poppy appeal. Rememberance Sunday. To try and politicise the event is f*cking childish, and you should be shot down accordingly.
I don't think you're a nasty person, just a but niave on this issue, and I think you just don't get it. (and maybe, just maybe, I'm overreacting...
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Fair enough.
I'll say no more, and hope we don't fall out over this.
How's about you stop f*cking sniping at everything I say?
If you read the post and didn't just blindly follow what your friends have said, then maybe you'd see I was... oh forget it.
It's lazy journalism based on half truths and heresay. You should disregard it accordingly.
And it's "This country..." nothing. It's an individuals studpidity.
Haha, unbelieveable (though coming back to comedy ground now...)
Phew
*breathes out*
Some threads are serious people, and you should be able to spot it.
Take care of yourselves, and each other.
Firstly Robder, I don;t want to pour too much scorn on you because maybe your only crime is trying to be throwaway about something that means a lot to other people.
Perhaps stick to threads about horses, brownies, and imaginary friends. Without sounding harsh, it's not too much to ask for to appreciate that some people may be affected here (and if you aren't, then maybe you should be).
If your going to post on a thread like this, then IMO you should have the backbone to defend it. You are categorically WRONG (And I'll rarely say this about anyone elses feelings) with your views on this, as has been detailed (as if it wasn't f*cking obvious enough already) by other people.
As I said, it's poppy appeal. Rememberance Sunday. To try and politicise the event is f*cking childish, and you should be shot down accordingly.
I don't think you're a nasty person, just a but niave on this issue, and I think you just don't get it. (and maybe, just maybe, I'm overreacting...
)Fair enough.
I'll say no more, and hope we don't fall out over this.
silvia said:Another empathic moment from x-amount
How's about you stop f*cking sniping at everything I say?
If you read the post and didn't just blindly follow what your friends have said, then maybe you'd see I was... oh forget it.
puppylover said:
It's lazy journalism based on half truths and heresay. You should disregard it accordingly.
And it's "This country..." nothing. It's an individuals studpidity.
sandi said:
Haha, unbelieveable (though coming back to comedy ground now...)
Phew
*breathes out*
Some threads are serious people, and you should be able to spot it.
Take care of yourselves, and each other.
x-amount said:
It would be awful to end the day with one less virtual friend.
Actually I don't think this is a case of right or wrong at all. I never stated for a minute that I don't respect the cause after all. I think this is a matter of opinion, and I apologise for expressing one.
FYI - I was the only person in my office who participated in the silence. Oooh my ego feels so much better now as the true cause of poppy day is to get one up on everyone isn't it? (Isn't it?)Leave poor Sil alone and calm down...sometimes opinions differ...there's no such thing as 100% right or wrong - life wouold be boring if there was.
Buckley
Well-Known Member
My two penneth - this debate should be deleted from this particular thread by those debating.
It detracts from the point. People did die in every war, many in good faith that what they was for them, theirs and the rest of us. It you don't feel anything about it keep it to yourself. And we'll have learned a little.
It detracts from the point. People did die in every war, many in good faith that what they was for them, theirs and the rest of us. It you don't feel anything about it keep it to yourself. And we'll have learned a little.
Paddy Eeziglow
Active Member
Remembrance Day means a lot to me for many reasons:
I'm a former serviceman and both my Grandfathers served bravely in WWII, one winning the George Medal at the evacuation of Dunkirk (the George Medal at the time was the 2nd highest honour an ordinary (i.e. not an officer) soldier could be honoured with (officers could be awarded with the George Cross). If you've seen Saving Private Ryan, imagine the first 20 minutes of that film but with the might of the Luftwaffe bearing down on them aswell. He was one of the last ten men off the beach as a volunteer in the rear-guard action.
My other Grandfather was part of the Normandy landings.
We can't even begin to imagine the bravery every man involved on either side showed. Yes war is wrong. And yes, I believe the occupation of Iraq is wrong. But please don't use your objection to one thing soil the memories of brave men without whom the world would be a very different and highly likely darker place.
I was also born and brought up in a small Northern mill town called Accrington. Some of you may of heard about The Accrington Pals- The 11th East Lancs. (service) Battallion made up of volunteers from Accrington and the surrounding towns. It was the largest volunteer regiment gathered during WWI coming from a tiny town like Accrington (current population 40,000). The town was devastated in one morning on 1st July 1916, the 1st Battle of the Somme. On that fateful morning almost all of the town's young (and some not so young) men were wiped out. The town never recovered.
http://www.pals.org.uk/pals_e.htm
So please, whatever you feel about the current situation in the world, wear a poppy, be proud to wear it, and educate those who don't understand why we wear them.
Lest we forget.
I'm a former serviceman and both my Grandfathers served bravely in WWII, one winning the George Medal at the evacuation of Dunkirk (the George Medal at the time was the 2nd highest honour an ordinary (i.e. not an officer) soldier could be honoured with (officers could be awarded with the George Cross). If you've seen Saving Private Ryan, imagine the first 20 minutes of that film but with the might of the Luftwaffe bearing down on them aswell. He was one of the last ten men off the beach as a volunteer in the rear-guard action.
My other Grandfather was part of the Normandy landings.
We can't even begin to imagine the bravery every man involved on either side showed. Yes war is wrong. And yes, I believe the occupation of Iraq is wrong. But please don't use your objection to one thing soil the memories of brave men without whom the world would be a very different and highly likely darker place.
I was also born and brought up in a small Northern mill town called Accrington. Some of you may of heard about The Accrington Pals- The 11th East Lancs. (service) Battallion made up of volunteers from Accrington and the surrounding towns. It was the largest volunteer regiment gathered during WWI coming from a tiny town like Accrington (current population 40,000). The town was devastated in one morning on 1st July 1916, the 1st Battle of the Somme. On that fateful morning almost all of the town's young (and some not so young) men were wiped out. The town never recovered.
http://www.pals.org.uk/pals_e.htm
So please, whatever you feel about the current situation in the world, wear a poppy, be proud to wear it, and educate those who don't understand why we wear them.
Lest we forget.
x-amount said:silvia said:Another empathic moment from x-amount
How's about you stop f*cking sniping at everything I say?
If you read the post and didn't just blindly follow what your friends have said, then maybe you'd see I was... oh forget it.
Don't be that egocentric, dear, there's nothing to see with you, it's about your manner of speaking: What you said to Robder could be said in a more tolerant and nice way, in my country it's called respect for other's opinions aka empathie
Beckiboo
Active Member
x-amount said:Beckiboo said:X-amount I think you're distracting the whole point of this thread with a rant against Robder - could all of that not have been said in a PM?
Yes, I see your point.
Just something I feel strongly over that's all.
I know and I agree with what you're saying, just think that a post like that will only encourage more debating (as it has done!)
Paddy Eeziglow said:
i've spent a while reading some of the stories at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2
and they are amazing.
I guess some of us feel more passionately about it than others (my father and brother were both servicemen, one who was wounded in battle in the first Gulf War) - but I hope the thread encourages debate, not criticism.
