Horrific story

Robder

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From this morning's Metro:

Drug trial victim looks like 'the Elephant Man'
by Jane Atherton

Witnesses described last night how six volunteers collapsed writhing in agony and ended up 'looking like the Elephant Man' after beiong given trial injections of the new drug.
Raste Khan, who escaped unharmed because he was given a placebo, said: 'Some of them screamed that their heads were about to explode.'
The TV technician, 23, said: 'The test ward turned into a living hell minutes after we were injected.
'First they began tearing their shirts off complaining of fever, then some screamed out that their heads felt like they were going to explode.
'It was terrifying because I kept expecting it to happen to me. But I felt fine and I didn't know why.'
Six men are in intensive care at Northwick Park Hospital in North-West London following Monday's disasterous test at Parexel International, an independent unit on the campus.
The head of volunteer Ryan Wilson, 21, swelled to three times its normal size 8O as his limbs turned purple.
The trainee plumber, who was being paid £2000 to take part in the trial for a German drug firm TeGenero, begged doctors to put him to sleep because he was in so much agony. Medics say his chances of survival are slim.
His sister in law Jo Brown, 24, of Highbury, North London, said: 'His head had swollen to nearly three times its normal size. His neck was the same and his skin had turned a dark purple. At first none of us recognised him.'
The girlfriend of another victim said he looked 'like the Elephant man'.
Myfanwy Marshall said she barely recognised the unnamed 20-year-old, who fell ill after being given the new drug TGN1412 in its first human trial.
Miss Marshall, 35, a BBC producer, said: 'He is already a big kind of guy but his face is out here, like Elephant Man, it's completely puffed.'
Thomas Hanke, the chief scientist of German drug company TeGenero, which has been developing TGN1412 since 1997, said: 'We are devastated'.

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it's really really sad actually - there are going to be some big lawsuits after this.


Although we're lucky that it's not happened all that much before to be honest - most trials seem to go ok. Probably because we test them on animals first which are very similar to us in the way their metabolisms work.
 
That is some scary stuff. Really feel for the test subjects, who were just trying to make a few extra quid for summer vacation, home renovation, nest egg, whatever.

What's that sound? Must be the solicitors circling overhead. I hope TeGenero has good insurance.
 
Most of the subjects were only young aswell, mainly students trying to raise a bit of extra cash. How scary... apparantly the reactions were horrific; swollen heads/limbs etc. Surely our genetic makeup cant be that different to that of animals though? I mean, they must have tested it on animals first to make sure there were no extreme reactions? It makes you feel even more sorry for the bunnies/monkeys/guinea pigs etc that have to go through these trials just so we can create new drugs :(
 
Beckiboo said:
It makes you feel even more sorry for the bunnies/monkeys/guinea pigs etc that have to go through these trials just so we can create new drugs :(
Better them than me :?
 
naddyz said:
it's really really sad actually - there are going to be some big lawsuits after this.

Apparently it's getting worse for 2 of them and their major organs are failing, so i don't think cash from a lawsuit will be any kind of comfort. I don't know this, i'm guessing but I would have thought that if the human head swells to 3 times it's actual size then there's little hope for the brain to not be damaged.
 
Beckiboo said:
Most of the subjects were only young aswell, mainly students trying to raise a bit of extra cash. How scary... apparantly the reactions were horrific; swollen heads/limbs etc. Surely our genetic makeup cant be that different to that of animals though? I mean, they must have tested it on animals first to make sure there were no extreme reactions? It makes you feel even more sorry for the bunnies/monkeys/guinea pigs etc that have to go through these trials just so we can create new drugs :(

this was a biological drug rather than a chemical drug so apparently dosages are harder to work out in humans. Apparently one dog died during the animal trials.

I do object to you saying 'just so we can create new drugs' - I'd understand if you said 'just so we can create new lipsticks' but drugs imo are v. valuable things.
 
Beckiboo said:
It makes you feel even more sorry for the bunnies/monkeys/guinea pigs etc that have to go through these trials just so we can create new drugs :(

Exactly what I said as soon as I read it but I was too scared to put it on here for fear of being shot down in flames by the angry Spotlight mafia. :lol:

I'm all for testing on humans actually (although it's an argument I'm often outnumbered in and can't be arsed to have today - you can regrow human tissues and use organ doners for a start and this is rarely done).

...

Classic moment - I sent this to a friend and he said he was thinking about doing drug testing to pay off his debt.
I responded with a, "I wouldn't because you won't look very attractive with a big purple head."
Quote of the year methinks. :oops: :lol:
 
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So sad

Dont they sign some sort of disclaimer at the start??, if anything bad has gone wrong i dont think they can do anything about it...can they?
 
naddyz said:
I do object to you saying 'just so we can create new drugs' - I'd understand if you said 'just so we can create new lipsticks' but drugs imo are v. valuable things.

I wasn't saying it as though I object to it either. I understand that creating new drugs for medical purposes is a necessary thing that we have to do, and obviously they need to be tested, and testing on animals is the closest thing we have to humans. I just think it's unfortunate that there is no other way to test drugs.
 
mambobirdette said:
So sad

Dont they sign some sort of disclaimer at the start??, if anything bad has gone wrong i dont think they can do anything about it...can they?

depends if the drug company did anything wrong themselves - apparently they've already buggered up by saying that it was tested on monkeys and dogs, and then saying it was tested on dogs and rabbits - i.e. inconsistent stories.
 
Beckiboo said:
I wasn't saying it as though I object to it either. I understand that creating new drugs for medical purposes is a necessary thing that we have to do, and obviously they need to be tested, and testing on animals is the closest thing we have to humans. I just think it's unfortunate that there is no other way to test drugs.

New ideas are to create tissue from stem cells and test drugs on that instead.
 
Robder said:
Exactly what I said as soon as I read it but I was too scared to put it on here for fear of being shot down in flames by the angry Spotlight mafia. :lol:

I'm all for testing on humans actually (although it's an argument I'm often outnumbered in and can't be arsed to have today).

i agree with Nick, but then i'm not a tree hugging vegetarian type. give me a nice steak and test my drugs on bunnies first please! :lol: ;)
 
nadz/morb - don't think it'd surprise you to know that tomcat (my crazy mate) has regularly done this before.

once he got £2500 for a 1 week stay and some outpatient visits. he just sat playing playstation, surfing, playing pool, etc all day. he's banned now cos they found ahem...*coughs*....something unacceptable in his bloodstream:lol:
 
stuie said:
i agree with Nick, but then i'm not a tree hugging vegetarian type. give me a nice steak and test my drugs on bunnies first please! :lol: ;)
Ooh. steak. that sounds good for lunch.

Oops. Sorry. Wrong thread :oops: :lol:
 
grego said:
nadz/morb - don't think it'd surprise you to know that tomcat (my crazy mate) has regularly done this before.

once he got £2500 for a 1 week stay and some outpatient visits. he just sat playing playstation, surfing, playing pool, etc all day. he's banned now cos they found ahem...*coughs*....something unacceptable in his bloodstream:lol:
I realize I only had a few hours around him, but you're right - not surprising at all :lol:
(fun guy, though)
 
stuie said:
i agree with Nick, but then i'm not a tree hugging vegetarian type. give me a nice steak and test my drugs on bunnies first please! :lol: ;)

Let the horrid nasty people die and let the beagles/guinea pigs/bunnys feast on human burgers! ;) :lol:
 
Robder said:
Let the horrid nasty people die and let the beagles/guinea pigs/bunnys feast on human burgers! ;) :lol:

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imagine him tucking into a dish of Robder al Forno.
 
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