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GUINEA PIG FARMER PLEAS FOR GRAN'S BODY BACK
Guinea pig farm shuts with plea to robbers
By Rod Chaytor
A FARM where guinea pigs are bred for research is to close in a desperate attempt to persuade protesters to return a gran's body.

The remains of Gladys Hammond, 82, were dug up by animal rights extremists last October and never recovered.

Yesterday her son-in-law Chris Hall, who runs the farm with brothers David and John, said: "We now hope that those responsible for removing Gladys' body will return her so she can lie once again in her rightful resting place."

John Holmes, of Save the Newchurch Guinea Pigs, said: "This is a fantastic day. The campaign was to close the farm. This is a victory for us."

The Halls have bred guinea pigs, used by researchers in the battle against lung diseases and allergies, at Darley Oak farm in Newchurch, Staffs, for 30 years.

But since 1999 animal welfare protesters have bombarded them with malicious phone calls, hate mail, bomb hoaxes, arson attacks and a paedophile smear campaign.
 
can someone explain to me what is so bad about using guinea pigs to advance human medicine?

seems like perfectly good sense to me.

*ducks for cover*
 
stuie said:
can someone explain to me what is so bad about using guinea pigs to advance human medicine?

seems like perfectly good sense to me.

*ducks for cover*
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:evil: :evil: :evil: Dont get me ranting today young man...
 
puppylover said:
:evil: :evil: :evil: Dont get me ranting today young man...
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not my intention... :lol:

this practice has been around since the beginning of medicine and is responsible for lots of breakthrough cures for diseases and conditions...

but in the last 5-10 years people have decided that is a bad thing.

obviously animal testing for cosmetics etc is very wrong, but if we're being honest and i was dying of something i'd have no worries about using a medicine that has been tested/trialed in this way.
 
What's the point in testing with guinea pigs, when they are totally different creatures to human beings? :?

All drugs has to be tested on humans as well to get the proper results.
 
Peppermint said:
What's the point in testing with guinea pigs, when they are totally different creatures to human beings? :?

All drugs has to be tested on humans as well to get the proper results.
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lets open a human farm! or just round up the degenerates and test on them.
 
Let's just throw some pills on the floor in a club and see what happens to the punters!

Actually a friend of mine did it to earn money - take part in drug testing that is. He was a bit coock-coock tho... ;)
 
stuie said:
puppylover said:
:evil: :evil: :evil: Dont get me ranting today young man...
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not my intention... :lol:

this practice has been around since the beginning of medicine and is responsible for lots of breakthrough cures for diseases and conditions...

but in the last 5-10 years people have decided that is a bad thing.

obviously animal testing for cosmetics etc is very wrong, but if we're being honest and i was dying of something i'd have no worries about using a medicine that has been tested/trialed in this way.
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But they are testing human drugs on guinea pigs - since when does the human body and its workings align itself with a guinea pig's genetic makeup??

Why not experiment on Rapists, Murderers and Paedophiles who are in prison for the duration of their lives - leave the Guinea Pigs alone!!!!

Morally wrong i know, but I think its wrong to test on animals..... :?
 
puppylover said:
But they are testing human drugs on guinea pigs - since when does the human body and its workings align itself with a guinea pig's genetic makeup??

Why not experiment on Rapists, Murderers and Paedophiles who are in prison for the duration of their lives - leave the Guinea Pigs alone!!!!

Morally wrong i know, but I think its wrong to test on animals..... :?
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pups, i dont know i'm no expert on human or guinea pig genetics but i do know that animal medication testing has been used succesfully for decades.

i just don't know why the last few years have seen such a change in public opinion and the amount of protest attacks.
 
Peppermint said:
Let's just throw some pills on the floor in a club and see what happens to the punters!

Actually a friend of mine did it to earn money - take part in drug testing that is. He was a bit coock-coock tho... ;)
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u know all the krarazzzy people! ;)
 
OMG!!! It IS true! :lol:

Crikey! Please don't get me started on the vivisection argument.
It's one of the only things that gets me really fired up in the world.

The "We've done it for decades so why stop here?" argument is such a lame one. :roll:

The bottom line is, we can do what the hell we want ion life as long as it's not with intention of harming another.

I couldn't give a monkeys what anyone thinks of Guinea Pigs to be honest.

But (at the risk of sounding like a soppy twat) I happen to think they're beautiful little creatures with an awful lot to give - not surplus raw materials/fodder to advance human science.

"But if you had cancer..." Blah blah b*llocks. I don't want any sh!t put into my body that's been anywhere near those sorts of dirrrty horrible tests.

Puppylover is right, there is so much that can be achieved by testing on regrown (or attached) human tissue and I've read stacks of documents that prove it is much more reliable than testing on another species.

...I find it incredible sometimes that people lack the simple compassion to be able to reach this conclusion themselves.

(But it's Stuie so we'll let him off ;) :D ...just don't come back at me cos Robder will get cross.)

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chance are you used a shampoo, washing up liquid, soap, paint or anything thats "un-natural" and at some point its been tested on a furry critter.
 
chewie_oo7 said:
chance are you used a shampoo, washing up liquid, soap, paint or anything thats "un-natural" and at some point its been tested on a furry critter.
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Yes! I'm sure I have!
(I'm not falling for the lets catch Robder out bait. ;) :lol: )

...The fact is, it's about intention.
If you check my bathroom/kitchen cupboards, you'll see that I've boycotted all the Nestles, Glaxo SmithKliens etc and I'm a proud owner of the compassionate shopping guide.
I've been an anorack about this sort of thing since school so am as well versed as I can be on the subject.

This by no means makes me perfect, I'm sure I've used something (or even DO use something) that some poor little furry mite has given up its life unnecessarily for...but surely the point is to be engaged with the issue - not to say, "Oh it's impossible to avoid and this hair product/moisturiser is soooo nice! :roll: "

Is there anything else you'd like to trip me up over?
 
chewie_oo7 said:
chance are you used a shampoo, washing up liquid, soap, paint or anything thats "un-natural" and at some point its been tested on a furry critter.
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I make a point of never ever buying anything that has been tested on animals.
 
I can't get into this debate with a group of vegetarian tree huggers!!! :lol: :lol: ;)

I'm morally wrong, you are morally right. You win... the end. :D
 
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